MSNBC Host "Uncomfortable" Calling Military "Heroes"

[CuteOldGuy]

Why do these nitwits seem to congregate at MSNBC?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fi...#ixzz1w6mBDLvo

Even the fallen soldiers, he doesn't like referring to as "heroes"?!

Well, MSNBC (MoreStupidNonsenseByCommunist s) can air whoever they want. I'd say I won't ever watch them again, but I don't watch them now. This is part of the reason I don't have a TV.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Why do these nitwits seem to congregate at MSNBC?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fi...#ixzz1w6mBDLvo

Even the fallen soldiers, he doesn't like referring to as "heroes"?!

Well, MSNBC (MoreStupidNonsenseByCommunist s) can air whoever they want. I'd say I won't ever watch them again, but I don't watch them now. This is part of the reason I don't have a TV.

I think about half the people on this board share this attitude towards America's military.

[nwarounder]

I don't think anybody on this board shares this sentiment about our soldiers. Sick POS, this fella.

[Randy4Candy]

Hmmm, at least, unlike you guys, he admits to maybe being wrong and might even realize that he's an overeducated priss. I also think that his worring about "rhetorical whatever it was" is far off of the mark. However, and unfortunately for your postulation, no one who is doing their duty that they volunteered for, and in the past were drafted into, qualifies to be a "hero." If everyone's a hero, then none really are. That is unless we're willing to trot out "superhero" in reference to the fallen, wounded and highly decorated. The troops deserve be greatly respected and commended for doing that duty, unlike during and after Vietnam. But, until Cheney, Bush and the Faux Media Machine started all of this over hyping, that term was reserved for those who performed above the ordinary level of all of the others who were doing their duty. In my way of thinking, the more heroic action by our current group of soldiers may be dealing with the repeated redeployments, lack of leave and being under armored. All of the things which happen fighting two wars on the cheap. But that's OK, we all got our tax breaks. Do you guys really think throwing out words makes up for not being willing to pay for our adventures? Now that's gutless and unpatriotic. Pay up or shut up.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

I don't think anybody on this board shares this sentiment about our soldiers. Sick POS, this fella.

I hope you're right. Unfortunately, based on the postings from other related threads, I've discoverd that most of the leftists on this board believe that America only goes to war to steal from other countries, hardly heroic behavior.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

I hope you're right. Unfortunately, based on the postings from other related threads, I've discoverd that most of the leftists on this board believe that America only goes to war to steal from other countries, hardly heroic behavior.

Soldiers are doing their job and can do heroic things in doing so.

Idiots sending them to unjust wars is another subject alltogether.

That you can not understand the difference shows we need better education in this country.

I do agree with Randy...calling ever soldier a hero demeans real heroic action.

[Randy4Candy]

C'mon, joe
Be a real heee-row
To all yo'
Hard Right Bros

Got something on your mind?
Can't be much.
There's so little room.
Spit it out, NQBS will be fine.

Hmmm, I'm a poet and didn't know it - but I won't do a verse about what you've already swallowed.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

I think about half the people on this board share this attitude towards America's military.

I would hope that you're not naive enough to believe such garbage! Then again, perhaps you are!

[Whirlaway]

I watched this clip; and in all honesty, I don't know what the hell this commentator was jabbering about.

If his point was that the accolade of "hero" is too easily bestowed on too many; then I have to say I agree with him. If his point was that using the term "hero" somehow justifies a war that in his opinion isn't justified, well then he is just wrong and un-patriotic.

[Munchmasterman]

First it was unpatriotic to show pictures of our fallen soldiers being returned to the US. I remember when we snuck our “heroes” back into the US.
Now it is unpatriotic to even discuss a term thrown about as to the nature of our dead soldiers. Talk about an intimidation tactic. The right to free speech is one of the main points of the Constitution that these people died to preserve

I didn’t volunteer for the Army to be a hero or to be thought of as one. I enlisted because of a sense of duty. For a while I was a lifeguard at an on post pool. Even though I pulled several “people who try to walk on the bottom” out of the water and performed CPR on a 11 year old (Dictionary.com uses rescuing a drowning person as an example of a hero), I risked nothing. I performed my job. I would be very uncomfortable with the label of “Hero”. I didn’t battle a rip tide or swim out 4-500 yards to save somebody.

I am a Viet Nam era veteran but I was never sent overseas I have done that duty as well as many others who performed their duty.
Many of the people we call heroes are dead. But they are not heroes because they died. They are heroes because of what they did when they were alive. Our fallen troops have made the ultimate sacrifice. Hayes could have stated what he was trying to in a better way. There is nothing wrong with discussing the topic.

It’s too bad some people attack someone exercising their rights on the day meant to remember our fallen servicemen. Good job. You can’t even wait a day to run your mouths.
I expected no less.

Here is a longer portion of the video.
http://www.examiner.com/video/msnbc-s-chris-hayes-uncomfortable-calling-fallen-military-heroes

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

It’s too bad some people attack someone exercising their rights on the day meant to remember our fallen servicemen. Good job. You can’t even wait a day to run your mouths.
I expected no less.

Very well said. I, for one, thank you not only for your service but also for sharing your thoughts!

[Jackie S]

Good Post Munchmaster.

I am also a Vietnam Vet, but I really do not get that offended by such remarks as this. Many times these remarks are made out of ignorance, some out of a self guilt.

I was drafted, I would not have went if not forced too.

We do have a tendancy to call anyone who gets killed under violent circumstances heros. I have always thought that a hero was someone who died or was injured doing something that he chose to do, knowing the possibilities of harm.

People who are killed or injured while doing something that by most accounts will not be expected to cause harm are victims.

Here is an analogy. On 9-11, the people who were in the Twin Towers when the planes hit were victims. The people on the airliner that crashed into that field were heros.

[CuteOldGuy]

I guess I can kind of see Hayes' point. Calling the fallen "heroes" would tend to lend legitimacy to the wars that have been fought, and recently, the legitimacy of our wars is at best, questionable. However, I'm convinced that most, if not all, of our soldiers entered the service agreeing to take a bullet meant for me, regardless of the real purpose behind the war. In that sense, they are all heroes to me. I just hope that at some point they can have a commander in chief who hasn't sold out to the war profiteers.

[Guest040616]

I have always been a firm believer that a person does not wake up in the morning and declare they are going to do something heroic on that day.

I am of the opinion that heroic acts are normally more spontaneous and instinctive.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

Hmmm, at least, unlike you guys, he admits to maybe being wrong and might even realize that he's an overeducated priss. I also think that his worring about "rhetorical whatever it was" is far off of the mark. However, and unfortunately for your postulation, no one who is doing their duty that they volunteered for, and in the past were drafted into, qualifies to be a "hero." If everyone's a hero, then none really are. That is unless we're willing to trot out "superhero" in reference to the fallen, wounded and highly decorated. The troops deserve be greatly respected and commended for doing that duty, unlike during and after Vietnam. But, until Cheney, Bush and the Faux Media Machine started all of this over hyping, that term was reserved for those who performed above the ordinary level of all of the others who were doing their duty. In my way of thinking, the more heroic action by our current group of soldiers may be dealing with the repeated redeployments, lack of leave and being under armored. All of the things which happen fighting two wars on the cheap. But that's OK, we all got our tax breaks. Do you guys really think throwing out words makes up for not being willing to pay for our adventures? Now that's gutless and unpatriotic. Pay up or shut up.

That is Funny. The "Overeducated priss" part.