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Originally Posted by hobbie
I speak for myself, if others agree fine, if not good. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I was expressing my thoughts and those of the many "old timers" I know and have spoken to.
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I'm not sure what it takes to be an Old Timer. But I was active on ASPD or 10 years and have been around here since before the migration. Been hobbying for around 30 years I guess.....
The group you speak of was not so much a group of old time and contributing hobbiest's and providers as much as it was a clique and group that attempted to control others and steer business to a select group of women. Women who were not open or helpful to new ladies coming on board.
Where ever they went... If they found what they wanted there. Good for them.
I still talk to and share information with a number of Old Timers that do not post here for a variety of reasons.... But they are still solid stand-up guys that shre relevant information..... Some of them drop by the luncheons from time to time... one will join us at a different GT this week....
I don't have a whole lot of respect for any member of a "review board" that does not review is some fashion. either by writing reviews or by posting more informative stuff in the locker room.
Then again. I do not directly disrespect ANY simply because of their age.
I've had lunch or drinks with members as young as 22yo and mentored a few within this group as well as many outside of it.
But THIS community was pretty fucked up the way it was ran and it did not change because of a couple of loudmouths.... It changed because people wanted it changed.
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Originally Posted by txAustin202
During my recent battle with the mouths and egos of this board, it dawned on me that the old timers of this hobby believe that they deserve some sort of "respect" because they've been in the hobby X number of years. They also think that their way of hobbying is the only correct way. Is it so hard to believe that some of us "young" guys do have experience with women and know what we're doing? Should I give respect to the guy that is respectful to all but has only been hobbying for 1 year? Or the asshole who has spent the last 10 years being an asshole? The answer is pretty clear to me.
These guys resort to blatant lies to make themselves look good. It's the World of Warcraft phenomenon where they prefer alternate reality from RW reality because if you meet these guys in person, you'll see that they're just over the hill guys trying to re-live their youth being tough drinking that elixir of keyboard courage. Respect is earned. Not given.
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You are certainly one to talk. You simply seemed to DEMAND respect and let everyone know that if not given it you were willing to beat some sense into them.
Might have worked as a kid in a gang but not so well in everyday interactions with people.
You couldn't respect the rules of an event YOU asked to be invited to. You couldn't respect the man that vouched for you and asked you to ratchet your ego down. You couldn't respect the few long time members that tried to simply steer you back on track. You couldn't respect the lady that joined you by acting like a proper date.
It is one thing for you to get crossways in a debate of sorts with someone like sixxbach or me.
But two of the most soft spoken and highly respected members of this community seemed to take issue with you behavior as well.
You managed to piss off and cross just about every guy you came in contact with.
I've exchanged very similar words with others like you over the years..... Guys that have thought I was an asshole or racist, or chauvinist..... ladies that thought I was a misogynist or an asshole..... Not a single one that I did not sit down with and have a drink with and be able to communicate with and still could do so tomorrow as we were all able to set aside the board crap and interact.
You walked into a group of 50 guys and ladies with a chip on your shoulder looking for trouble with the guy that called you a pussy on the board. and everything went downhill after that.
I have put together and participated in socials in every community I have lived in for the last 14 years.
You are the first name I have ever actually removed from the list of invitees. I've had worse exchanges with others but would still share a drink with them tomorrow. i may not agree with their views but they manage to express themselves in a manner that acceptable.
There are several people at every get together that have very different views than mine. Yet we manage to be social to each other. The group that comes together is not remotely close to a group of people that support my opinions....
This thread will get some sentiment as well as some posts by a few that can support your being willing to standup and vocalize your dissatisfaction with some of us.
But in all honesty. You are not even cut from the same fabric they are.
I guess I need to resurrect Kboys comments.
I felt like maybe you had sat back and took in some o fthe advice you were given by others far less opinionated than myself.
But it would appear that Kboy's summary of you was spot-on...
And I truly believe you are a first. He has never been remotely perturbed with anyone and always a huge proponent of allowing everyone a place.
But what was it he said?....
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Originally Posted by austinkboy
Sigh... Guys...Quit thinking that txAustin202 is a love sick puppy dog. He is just another asshole horndog that likes to think his dick is bigger than yours.
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So here you are wanting to stir it up some more huh?
Have at it.... I need to go take a pretty young lady to dinner.
