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Old 04-05-2010, 08:53 PM   #16
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So, stuff the envelope with Washingtons instead of Jacksons. It will be just as thick; but lighter on the wallet.
Charles you are always trying to make points with the ladies.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:53 PM   #17
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Why are people so fascinated with providers' income. They charge, we pay end of story.
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Old 04-06-2010, 11:25 AM   #18
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Why are people so fascinated with providers' income. They charge, we pay end of story.
I don't care how much their income is; I care more about the relationship. One evidence of a good relationship could be some flexibility on pricing.
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Old 04-06-2010, 11:56 AM   #19
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I don't care how much their income is; I care more about the relationship. One evidence of a good relationship could be some flexibility on pricing.

What??
Who says?

Maybe the real evidence of a good realationship is very generous tips...or the paid over night visits...
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:11 PM   #20
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I don't care how much their income is; I care more about the relationship. One evidence of a good relationship could be some flexibility on pricing.
If it's a relationship that goes beyond escort/client, with a touch of "girlfriend/boyfriend," that would certainly be the case.

To the extent that it stays within the boundary of the P4P relationship, though, less clear, to me at aleast. I like to think that a few of the ladies I see really like me, that I'm not just another valued client to them. We're compatible, we connect/click, to a degree more than her average client. But it's still within the context of a business relationship. Within some other business relationships (outside the context of P4P), I may get occasional price flexibility because I'm a good client (relatively high volume of business, for example) the business wants to keep. It's evidence of a good business relationship. I wouldn't expect price flexibility because she likes me. Unless we were crossing boundaries, in which case we're back to the first paragraph.

But maybe I'm rationalizing out of envy, since I don't get anywhere near the same results as you do.
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Old 04-06-2010, 02:20 PM   #21
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I don't care how much their income is; I care more about the relationship. One evidence of a good relationship could be some flexibility on pricing.
Let's not confuse 2 different issues. Straight P4P & "other"

vngirlfan may not agree with me, but based on the examples he's given, he strives for "other" -- whether you call it Sugar Baby, GF or something else it is different.

As I pointed out earlier, of course compensation should be different.

I'll also suggest "flexibility" doesn't necessarily mean less. I'm aware of "other" relationships when the gent would have been much better off if he simply gave her her hourly rate (or hell even tripled it).

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If it's a relationship that goes beyond escort/client, with a touch of "girlfriend/boyfriend," that would certainly be the case.

To the extent that it stays within the boundary of the P4P relationship, though, less clear, to me at aleast. I like to think that a few of the ladies I see really like me, that I'm not just another valued client to them. We're compatible, we connect/click, to a degree more than her average client. But it's still within the context of a business relationship. Within some other business relationships (outside the context of P4P), I may get occasional price flexibility because I'm a good client (relatively high volume of business, for example) the business wants to keep. It's evidence of a good business relationship. I wouldn't expect price flexibility because she likes me. Unless we were crossing boundaries, in which case we're back to the first paragraph.

But maybe I'm rationalizing out of envy, since I don't get anywhere near the same results as you do.
Then the other is favorable pricing or "discounts" within the context of straight p4p. [as a disclaimer, so I do not get my balls cut off, I am not suggesting to anyone how they should set their rates].

As Chevy points out the ones that do it, do it because it is good business not because she really likes him. There are many legitimate busiess reasons for "taking care of your regulars." Most of them fall into the category of "transaction costs" -- not the stuff that goes on BCD. With regulars all of the risk & expense of screening is eliminated. You know that his presentation (hygiene, discretion) is acceptable. He is less likely to NCNS or short. Finally if she can develop enough regulars she can reduce her advertising expense. These are all good, cost-justified rationale for giving favorable treatment to regulars (and have nothing to do with BCD).

I think this is a helpful way of framing it for both parties as it clarifies the relationship as still all business. You don't delude yourself into thinking she is "hooking you up" because you are the best at DATY ever

Again this isn't to suggest a lady should or must discount, simply rationale for why some may choose to....
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Old 04-06-2010, 04:38 PM   #22
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I think is more like a Wal-Mart transaction. I may see the same cashier at every trip there, but in the final analysis, I get charged what the bar code says.

The hobby is much like the Wal-Mart line. There are customers in front of you and customers behind you. You may go through the line several times a week. But you get no special break just because you are a frequent flyer. As a matter of fact, you spend more at just one place. On the other hand, you could spread the money around: Wal-Mart, Target, Home Depot, Kroger, etc. After all, variety is the spice of life.

If you think you're getting time or a discount, think again. Try figuring out what deal you could have worked in advance (i.e. if I paid up front, how much would you charge per session if I wanted 6 1-hr. session?) as opposed to the amount you eventually paid. Bet it wasn't much of a discount at all.
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So do the providers you frequent beep and buzz like the registers at Wal Mart etc?
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:59 PM   #24
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So do the providers you frequent beep and buzz like the registers at Wal Mart etc?
Not what I said, but if that's your interpretation...
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I thought it was a good analogy, CS!
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:08 PM   #26
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Not what I said, but if that's your interpretation...
What if you wish to use the self checkout lane?
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:29 PM   #27
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What if you wish to use the self checkout lane?
Just like a date with rosy palm.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:50 PM   #28
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I think the letter just posted by providers says quite plainly that this relationship should not be a consideration.
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I think the letter just posted by providers says quite plainly that this relationship should not be a consideration.
I think you have just shown why you may have never encountered "special treatment."
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There is no "other" one hour at a time. While an enjoyable business, still a business. We fill a need, nay to some, a requirement. Because they can't "get it anywhere else"? Nope, not usually the case. Usually the reason I saw a gent is because he was married, loved his wife but she quit caring about the sex part of the equation. Or, the same attraction is not there, the love still is however. You pay us to LEAVE and not call you, not complicate your life, not be the nagging, non-putting out wife (with whom you are still in love and understandably so). Why would you expect a discount for such a luxury that "stays in the background"? I bet 90% of the men who hobby are NOT available to us, emotionally, financially, certainly not to have a "family" with.

So, why should we give you a "relationship" discount? I don't get it. I rocked your world for an hour, an overnight, a few months worth of regular visits. Yep, some of you rocked my world too but, you were still not "available". You can not have a "relationship" with someone who is not available.

So, not available for a relationship? You pay us to LEAVE? We see you on the "sneak" one hour at a time? Nothing about that says "relationship" to me.

So Charles, you are dead on man. No discount due to no relationship.
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