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Old 10-20-2011, 11:02 AM   #211
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Off topic for a bit.

Holiday Inn scares the living shit out of me. Remember when I told you I stayed there for two days and had nightmares and heard voices the whole time? I won't stay there again because after that one experience it spooked me out not because I am too good for the place. A friend of mine that stayed at the same Holiday inn told me just two days ago that she could not sleep while she was there and she had really bad night sweats for no reason. She confirmed my fears.

I think it is preference when it comes to hotels. If I won't stay in a roach motel, why should my clients stay there? If I won't go to the hood, why should my clients go there? (And London you know I am not the one to take to the hood). Simply, I like to put myself in the client's shoes. I'm not paying a girl $400 if she's staying in some $60 a night roach motel. Would you? And who wants to stay in a hotel with bed bugs or worse? It has nothing to do with class sometimes but common sense.
There are some very nice Holiday Inns for only a night's sleep. The one in New Orleans in fact, is better than most Double Trees and Crowne Plazas I have seen.

I am not talking about entertaining in one...just ME pulling off the road rather than ending up in a ditch lol. I would be the laughing stock of the review system if I ever tried that at my so called "high rates" .

You're right though...clients paying high rates EXPECT a certain level of service and caliber of venue...would never argue that. I am just saying that if I were to be alone, I see no need to go pay 300 for a top hotel just to sleep for 6 hours...that's not spending my money wisely and could have went towards a hotel for an actual date, or better yet student loans. Now, I would never stay at a Motel 6, Super 8, or Microtel no matter how tired I was, but certain cities have excellent 3 star hotels.
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Correct. You are referring to my friend, Nina Sastri. www.NinaSastri.net
She uses the word correctly, which I'm sure goes wasted on some...
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Sorry Shayla, I was just checking....I've had my heart broken before.....
Hahaha I don't even know why I posted in here. I care more about MVP trophies than beauty tiara's. I'm really not one to say anything.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:27 PM   #215
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There are different levels in this field, and I think what may be occurring is an effort to dissociate from the conventional ideal of a hooker, escorts will include information that they think will net them better clients.

The target audience is different when you're comparing a street walker, an escort and a courtesan. Yes, technically we're all doing the same job, however the connotation of the title implies different levels of service as well as different stigmas and expectations. While this may not be a career the more you learn about the hobby as a whole, its expected that you'll want to grow and become better at it. Just my two cents.
completely agree. And i personally see all these different "trades" as non judgemental. I have been in high class locations where women used to look down on other women because they worked in other fields but nonetheless, those women of more expensive rates (e.g. the Babylon) were the first ones to give BBBJs while others that were more obviously "whores" (note) used condoms and therefor charged less. I heard these women of higher rates in the Babylon often refer to themselves as "oh i don`t see myself as a whore - i am not one of those". Nevertheless they were one of the first to offer so called unsafe services. So , its often a matter of "where " you start judging and what scales and levels are important to you, when you do think of something as "classy". One other example might be that the socalled "low level" providers in Berlin for example - the streetworkers - do not do sex at all. They fake it with very simple methods. So, frankly speaking, while streetworking might be the "oldest" and almost dying method of working, it could be one of the safest at all. There were times when being an escort did not even require sex at all, because all escorts had methods of "faking" or pretending. Clients were aware of that, so no one really bothered, because it was not possible to be able to "do it" differently. This can be considered cheap or low level or whatever, but it might be an interesting idea to add. It is somehow unfortunate that many people confuse drug addicts who sell themselves for acquiring drugs with the professional "streetworkers" . These are not the same. The first ones are hobby-housewives-people with real issues - and the second ones are professionals who play by certain rules of the trade. So, in the media of course only the bad druggies are presented as streetworkers.
Not that this line of work has ever been appealing to me personally, but i would not necessarily see someone who does "our" line of work as more reputable or "classy". Because , STDs and these things don`t care so much how you charge or how you look or how many fake or real advanced degrees you have . :-))).

BTW: sorry for my last unfinished post, i am travelling and internet access is hard to get sometimes :-( so i just posted the thing unfinished before loosing it again because internet fails.... aaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhh.........
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It's sad when ladies treat other ladies snotty and act better than others when compassion and sympathy is a learned reaction.
As, I said before- I thought high class meant really expensive but we all can dress up really nice and have on fake jewelry and a dress from a thrift store.
If you feed a hungry person, show understanding for the less fortunate, take in a stray animal, and give someone the time of day- you got far more class than a person running around in a fancy car. Not saying having a fancy car is out of the question but put a homeless person in there and take them to a shelter.
We should be approachable and not be a snooty booty.
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Not that this line of work has ever been appealing to me personally, but i would not necessarily see someone who does "our" line of work as more reputable or "classy". Because , STDs and these things don`t care so much how you charge or how you look or how many fake or real advanced degrees you have . :-))).
Very well said love.

And.. Just FYI, I miss you!!!!!
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:42 PM   #218
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I wasn't thinking about sucking dick in high school. Are there any high school juniors here? Believe it or not , there are a lot of immature/irresponsible 40 years olds here and vice versa. Age ain't nothing but a number.
that is true, but i might add that immature women 40 plus at least know how they are and about their flaws. Immature 20 somethings might think of themselves as mature while making the same mistakes over and over again :-). This is at least what i experienced. I think maturity has to be measured by age and peer groups. I also had to babysit women much older than me ( my mother is the best example) or had to take responsibility for things way over my age gap , but i still don`t think the "life experience" is something young women and old women (or middle aged women) can have in common. At a certain age you have been trhu with certain experiences, be it in relationships, in the hobby or with your education. You are more focussed, no matter if you reached all your goals. But you know wherte you stand, in good or in bad times. So, while someone with 20 might think he is mature , it can well be that life changes at 40 again.

For example i used to grow up very fast due to my life experiences and i was never a party girl or a fun woman. I was very very serious and went about life very put together, because i did not have a base yet. Now i afford myself the luxury of doing stupid things and being childish at points because i know it will not throw me out of line. So, while i would have looked at myself as probably less mature when i was 19 or 20, i do see myself ad way less relaxed and mature whe i was younger from nowadays. I have less fear now and i can afford to do certain things (travelling, letting go, adventures) that i could not have done before, because the slightses slip would have put me away from reachinbg my goals by far.
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Inho The car you drive, the shoes you ware or the handbag you carry has nothing to do with class.
If you are in a restaruant and say to your child go and get mom's chanel handbag from the Rolls Royce.
You are not classy you are a snob.
The child knows what car you came in, please retrieve my handbag from the car would suffice.
It could be said if you overtly try and be classy that is an oxymoron.
The statement quality or exclusive are probably more apt.
Just my.02.
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Old 10-21-2011, 05:00 AM   #220
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If you're that good at what you do, your clients don't much give a flip who else posts...they still focus on you. It can't really be that hard to keep your client's attention in the presense of other women...can it?
some woman don`t even are smart enough to use their own opinions, but for example mine that i told them years back and now claim they come up with it themselves. Thanks to such idiots i have stalkers now. The same woman i criticised for her snotty attitude towards other providers and her claiming to be so "good" in bed and that wives simply don`t give it to their men now used my opinion on boards about howe "sensual experiences" can`t be compared and such stuff and talks about "games heteronormative people play". Oh wow!!. It is just stupid when someone does simply not have the intellectual capacities and claims to be smart but is not capable of even posting own opinions but rather opinions that clients and other providers told her.

Best thing is: She even used my victim-theory to get her business going on some board :-)) Too funny!!! But she was not smart enough to understand a word, so read on: I told that i think charging married men for entertainment is a better thing because otherwise you feel like a victim of other people`s business and have to be submissive to marital claims. Plus, I think when you can`t get the whole reality of a relationship with all consequences and only get parts its fair to charge as you charge a therapist.

Stupid Bimbo posted on a board that she feels like a victim if she does not charge people for casual sex. And since she loves casual sex (or similarly she stated) she simply charges guys now. Oh man!!! Really!! That did not come out right, did it? Because why would guys need to pay for casual sex and she didn`t??? Stupid Stupid Stupid! So , in fact she was VICTIMISING her clients by treating them inferior by wanting them ot pay for something she really loves to do and they love to do. ...
Why would anyone pay for casual sex? If both enjoy why pay? She simply did not get my point but did not bother to use my ideas. Too bad that board was closed, otherwise i would have corrected it with red marks like in high school and returned it :-)) (lol).

So - long story short - someone that claims to be smart and educated should at least have the brains to come up with OWN ideas, or - when copying other peoples ideas - at least COMPREHEND them and quote them correct :-))). lol.

So in fact, not only did she misunderstand what i was trying to say about suppporting marriages by paid companionship, but at the same time she was posting about committing a felony - because she openly stated she is someone who charges for sex. Gosh :-))).
And that coming from someone who claims that all other escorts are stupid and she is so smart is - well - living proof that even if you charge much money it does not necessarily mean anything.....
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Let me tell you that while all that maybe true, we are all human beings at heart doing the best we can do. That street walker maybe trying to put her kid through college and is willing to put up with more shit than a woman with a booker. Is she more classy? In my book she is. Who knows but I do know that empathy is the mountaintop of class in my book. What we country boys call a good heart. I know that when I'm around it and I see it in every different social level. So I am not sure why we feel the need to distinguish those differences.

Some of us were delt a better hand than most and should take that into consideration when discussing all this caca.

That streetwalker may have reached the highest lot in life she can reach. The HDH may have stooped as low as one can go given their background, you just never know.

Carry on folks, I'm off to go get me a classy blowjob.
I agree. specially to the classy BJ :-)
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I agree. specially to the classy BJ :-)
Nothing classier than a BJ with an Austrian accent!!!
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Very well said love.

And.. Just FYI, I miss you!!!!!

misss you toooooo :-).
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Very well said love.

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Nothing classier than a BJ with an Austrian accent!!!
(lol) ....all the different accents with all the different flavours :-). Next time i might practice my portuguese with you...(lol)
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I believe "upscale, high class" providers stay mostly off the board, even though they may lurk. I believe they get their business in a back channel manner. They may have websites out there, but there mostly hard to find unless you know the URL.
Charles, I believe, first of all, nothing is hard to find if it is attached to an URL :-). No one who is high class lurks or even posts or entertains herself at boards or at anything regarding with the www.. Most high class providers would not even refer to themselves as providers because most of them are probably wives by now, or simply surrounded in a VIP society where they can hardly marry anything but rich guys. The other ones are models or other professionals that deal with looks mostly or in the entertainment industry. No one has a webpage either, and no one would lurk at provider boards,. :-) Therefor this artificial distinction between webpagepresented obvious escorts who advertise and entertain on various indistry boards (backchannel does happen , but mostly because the providers have already a full database and don`t need to advertise, at least for a while, til the clients change, or find others more interesting, or whatnot. :-). so yes i agree that people like us are nothing like "high class".
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