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Old 10-10-2011, 09:09 AM   #46
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Texas, I was making fun of these wingnuts who think that Holder was really trying to outlaw gun sales in this country. They sound as nutty as people on the left that claimed Bush knew about 9/11 beforehand and did nothing! That in fact hbe masterminded 9/11. That is how kooky there fast and furious wingnuts sound. They do not even realize how outta touch with realith they are. They are the same nuts that did not believe Obama was born in hawaii
Perhaps you failed to notice one minor detail. Despite ten years of theories and conjecture, Truthers have failed to prove, or get anyone to admit, that the Bush administration destroyed the Towers in order to justify a war in Afghanistan. Primarily because, it didn’t happen.

On the other hand, the ATF and Holder have admitted that this administration had a program in place that expedited the sale of assault weapons to Mexico’s narco-terrorist cartels. Furthermore, they have admitted those weapons were used by narco-terrorists to conduct criminal activities in Mexico, and in the U.S., including causing the deaths of scores of Mexican nationals. That’s not conjecture; that’s established fact.

Since no U.S. agency – including the ATF – has any jurisdiction in Mexico to “arrest” the alleged perpetrators in Mexico as per their “stated” plan, the only conclusion (or is it?) is that this administration was seeking to further destabilize Mexico’s government by arming the narco-terrorists.

Again, cite the U.S. law that prohibits the sale of a weapon between two Mexican nationals in Mexico. The only jurisdiction the ATF had was over the “mules”, and the ATF let them cross the border – out of their jurisdiction – unmolested.

As to your other fallacious statement: http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...4&postcount=37

Go back to worrying about your 4th Amendment rights – start deleting those phone numbers and text messages you have stored on your iPhone that might get you in trouble.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:49 AM   #47
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Nobody has established that this program was designed to stop sale of guns in this country. That is what kooks like you are implying. Oh and one last thing are you envious of my text message with beautiful women?
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:52 AM   #48
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Oh and another thing. I am not woried about the government. Reading my text messages. I would shove that phone up your birther ass before I let them do that. So no wories for me in that regard.
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Nobody has established that this program was designed to stop sale of guns in this country. That is what kooks like you are implying. Oh and one last thing are you envious of my text message with beautiful women?
No! You're being ridiculed for your concern about the 4th Amendment!
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:56 AM   #50
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I misspoke. I have no trouble admitting it. You ridicule all you want but just remember you might wind up with my smart phone shove up your smart ass
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:09 AM   #51
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It doesn't matter what the program was designed to do, the facts remain. We sold guns to our enemy and they used those guns to kill our law enforcement officers. Impeachable.
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Juwst because you think it is does not make it so. You are free to think Elvis is still eating bananna sammies in memphis but you sound like a kook saying so. Do some research before spouting off. In fact put your money where your mouth is. Obama will not be impeached for this and I will bet you wtf ever you can afford to pay
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:16 AM   #53
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I misspoke. I have no trouble admitting it. You ridicule all you want but just remember you might wind up with my smart phone shove up your smart ass
Great, you'll be on speed dial when I fart.

Truth be known, the 4th Amendment is under attack as well.
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...light=michigan
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http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=253061
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:18 AM   #54
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Obama will not be impeached for this and I will bet you wtf ever you can afford to pay
Probably not, but Holder will probably be thrown under the bus.
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He won't be impeached, but he should be. Holder is a liar.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...furious-probe/

I'm sorry you feel that way about Elvis. He always speaks highly of you.
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Lol. I always liked Elvis. Follow that Dream was a fav
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:37 AM   #57
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I always liked "Marie was the name of his latest flame"

Can you amagine your best friend telling you all about the woman he just fell in love with, not knowing that you had just fucked her the night before.

Those are some cold ass lyrics.

As for the Topic, you know that sooner or later the anti-gun nuts would have used this episode to promote their agenda, with The President's, and his lap dog Holders blessing. So while this was not the primary motive in this boondoggle, it would have certainly been the major secondary.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:24 AM   #58
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It doesn't matter what the program was designed to do, the facts remain. We sold guns to our enemy and they used those guns to kill our law enforcement officers. Impeachable.
If your post kill our brain cells can we sue you?
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:27 AM   #59
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I always liked "Marie was the name of his latest flame"

Can you amagine your best friend telling you all about the woman he just fell in love with, not knowing that you had just fucked her the night before.

Those are some cold ass lyrics.

As for the Topic, you know that sooner or later the anti-gun nuts would have used this episode to promote their agenda, with The President's, and his lap dog Holders blessing. So while this was not the primary motive in this boondoggle, it would have certainly been the major secondary.
Cold indeed!

Look, just because some anti gun group runs with something does not mean that was the intent of wtf the ATF was trying to do. Nobody will ever find that the intent was to make this a gun control issue. It was a track it to the bad guys issue. Nobody can find a smoking gun on this because there is not one. It was a stupid action but it was not done to curb the sale of guns in this country by getting one of our border agents shot. That is wtf you guys are saying.

Thus I maintain that you sound like the kooks that said Bush was in on 9/11.

You sound just like those kooks on the left.

Now go follow that Dream!


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Old 10-11-2011, 08:38 AM   #60
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Thus I maintain that you sound like the kooks that said Bush was in on 9/11.
The fact remains, "Fast and Furious" happened. Holder has admitted as much, and you are an abject moron if you believe Hillary, Holder and Obama wouldn't have made it an anti-gun issue if it hadn't bit them in the ass. Hillary has already over-stated, in 2009, that U.S. gun sales were responsible for the violence in Mexico. So it's been part of their "agenda" for some time. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,2128382.story
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