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07-19-2011, 02:14 PM
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Casino Owner Wynn Thinks Obama......
Steve Wynn has become very vocal about just how bad the Obama administration has been. Wynn is a democratic supporter of Reid and others but doesn't think much of Obama and his extermists polcies...in this clip Wynn calls Obama's policies frightening and wierd.....Wynn employs thousands at his casinos.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/stev...ist-new-audio/
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07-19-2011, 07:07 PM
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whirlaway what s your point? Because he's a Democrat and called out Obama that somehow he's right? Do you know how many republicans who have distant themselves from the current GOP party? Whirlaway you listen to Rush too much.
What about Bob Inglis blasting his own party here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_647959.html Didn't McCain and other GOP blast members of their own party for their "isolationism" policies and views over libya?: http://yourfreepress.blogspot.com/20...t-growing.html
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07-19-2011, 07:46 PM
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Do you know how many republicans who have distant themselves from the current GOP party?
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And let's not forget David Frum, Michael Smerconish, Richard Armitage,
Colin Powell, Mark McKinnon, Andrew Sullivan, Lincoln Chafee, Bruce Bartlett, David Stockman etc etc etc.
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07-19-2011, 08:03 PM
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We...you are free to draw your own conclusion from the post.....I don't disagree that there is disagreement thoughout the political spectrum. but a major employer like Wynn, who is a democrat money guy, takes it to the President like this, well, I think it is noteable.
Wynn is saying Obama is bad news for the economy (country) and needs to be tossed out in 2012. I think it is worth the post...but of course, you are free to comment otherwise.
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07-20-2011, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
We...you are free to draw your own conclusion from the post.....I don't disagree that there is disagreement thoughout the political spectrum. but a major employer like Wynn, who is a democrat money guy, takes it to the President like this, well, I think it is noteable.
Wynn is saying Obama is bad news for the economy (country) and needs to be tossed out in 2012. I think it is worth the post...but of course, you are free to comment otherwise.
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Again like everyone else Wynn is entitled to his opinion for every guy like Wynn I can name hundreds of people who support Obama- I mean honestly you are really reaching dude where it makes you look real desperate. It's like you look for every small thing or negative comment abut Obama and you make a thread of it- if you don't like the man do what every person who doesn't like will do is and that is cast your vote. And if you think he's so bad and you can do a better job then why don't you run for office? I mean the way you tell it you act as if there's going to be zero % unemployment- world peace, a booming economy like never before if a Republican or if anyone else besides Obama is in office. Also, Obama is the President he's not an absolute ruler or a King meaning whatever ideas he wants- there are checks and balances that keep any President from becoming a "king" or abusing power so this belief that one man- regardless of who he/she is can destroy a country of 300 million people is so childish- people like RUSH has got your scared- and I bet my last dollar you listen to Rush because all this crap that you post is so negative and so divisive that it's beyond sad.
Do I like everything Obama has done or supports? No! Will I like ever agree 100% with every candidate? No! All I can do is just cast my vote- the world doesn't revolve around any one man's ideas- just because you disagree with a policy that Obama supports doesn't make anyone of you bad people.
Whirlway- did people not like Jesus? Many of them thought he was destroying God's work, blasphemer, etc. 2000 years later no difference- it's in the DNA of man to always hate what they don't agree with.
Whirlway, I don't agree with same sex marriage, but I could care less if my neighbors are gay and wants to get married- I am not going to leave them ugly notes on their door just because they have a lifestyle I disagree with- they have to answer to their maker just like I have to answer to my maker. Your problem is that you think the candidate you like is perfect and has all the right answers and anyone that goes against "your" values is dead wrong and so corrupt.
Whirlway get a life because right now you are a puppet to people like RUSH- Rush get's his fat ass on radio spewing lies and inciting hatred of Obama- telling you he's going to destroy the country blah blah and bankrupt us blah blah- yet he's a millionaire many times over while people like you Whirl worry about gas prices, mortgage, raising family- the hard things that Rush doesn't have to worry about. Does Rush really worry about gas prices when he fuels up? Does he worry about making his mortgage payments? Does his fat ass worry about putting food on the table? However, political zombies like you who have to worry about those issues feed into his vile and hatred- wow if that's not capitalism for you I don't know what is lol- so sad!
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07-20-2011, 06:27 AM
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Again like everyone else Wynn is entitled to his opinion for every guy like Wynn I can name hundreds of people who support Obama- I mean honestly you are really reaching dude where it makes you look real desperate.
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Well, when you're someone who posts under more than one handle so you can make your views appear more accepted than they would otherwise appear, "desperate" i think would be the proper term.
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07-20-2011, 08:39 AM
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------see following post.
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07-20-2011, 08:51 AM
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WE: You managed to reference me in your rant invovling Jesus, Obama, Wynn, and Rush. Thanks, I guess.
Did you vote for Obama in 2008?
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Originally Posted by wellendowed1911
Again like everyone else Wynn is entitled to his opinion for every guy like Wynn I can name hundreds of people who support Obama- I mean honestly you are really reaching dude where it makes you look real desperate. Like it or not, the Wynn statement got alot of play. And if you think the Obama re-election committe wasn't annoyed by it, then you are fooling yourself. It's like you look for every small thing or negative comment abut Obama and you make a thread of it- if you don't like the man do what every person who doesn't like will do is and that is cast your vote. And if you think he's so bad and you can do a better job then why don't you run for office? I mean the way you tell it you act as if there's going to be zero % unemployment- world peace, a booming economy like never before if a Republican or if anyone else besides Obama is in office. Also, Obama is the President he's not an absolute ruler or a King meaning whatever ideas he wants- there are checks and balances that keep any President from becoming a "king" or abusing power so this belief that one man- regardless of who he/she is can destroy a country of 300 million people is so childish- people like RUSH has got your scared- and I bet my last dollar you listen to Rush because all this crap that you post is so negative and so divisive that it's beyond sad.
Do I like everything Obama has done or supports? No! Will I like ever agree 100% with every candidate? No! All I can do is just cast my vote- the world doesn't revolve around any one man's ideas- just because you disagree with a policy that Obama supports doesn't make anyone of you bad people.
Whirlway- did people not like Jesus? Many of them thought he was destroying God's work, blasphemer, etc. 2000 years later no difference- it's in the DNA of man to always hate what they don't agree with. Obama's failed polcies and his agenda to change America is what I oppose - It is opposition, not hate !
Whirlway, I don't agree with same sex marriage, but I could care less if my neighbors are gay and wants to get married- Hey, we agree here! I am not going to leave them ugly notes on their door just because they have a lifestyle I disagree with- I wouldn't either. they have to answer to their maker just like I have to answer to my maker. Your problem is that you think the candidate you like is perfect and has all the right answers and anyone that goes against "your" values is dead wrong and so corrupt. I don't think any politican is perfect - you assume wrongly ! But I do think Obama's value set is so far left and outside of mainstream America that his policies should be defeated now and of course in 2012 ! And Wynn agrees as well !
Whirlway get a life - Wellendowed, you can originate better criticism than overused cliches like this -In fact my life is pretty damn good. I have my health, I hobby when I want, and I spent last week at the British Open hob nobbing ! because right now you are a puppet to people like RUSH- Rush get's his fat ass on radio spewing lies and inciting hatred of Obama- telling you he's going to destroy the country blah blah and bankrupt us blah blah- yet he's a millionaire many times over while people like you Whirl worry about gas prices, mortgage, raising family- the hard things that Rush doesn't have to worry about. Does Rush really worry about gas prices when he fuels up? Does he worry about making his mortgage payments? Does his fat ass worry about putting food on the table? However, political zombies like you who have to worry about those issues feed into his vile and hatred- wow if that's not capitalism for you I don't know what is lol- so sad!
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07-20-2011, 10:49 AM
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WE: You managed to reference me in your rant invovling Jesus, Obama, Wynn, and Rush. Thanks, I guess.
Did you vote for Obama in 2008?
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Whirl I once again for the LAST time- if you or Wynn don't like his ideas or direction than do not vote for him in Nov 2012 what else can be said? Heck you still never said who you voted for in 2008? You mentioned you DIDN'T vote for McCain- so did you vote for Obama or you didn't vote at all?
If you didn't vote at all you got what you deserve!
Also, wasn't Colin Powell a life long Republican who gave speeches at GOP conventions and served in Bush candidates did he not say back in 2008 they he's behind Obama a Democrat and he didn't like the direction of the GOP especially with McCain picking Palin??? What's the difference??? Haven't there been times when politicians on both sides switch parties??? Again what's the difference? You act as if Wynn is God- who the hell cares what Wynn thinks- by the way- in every party you have supporters who don't like certain candidates- I knew life long Republicans who said they wouldn't vote for McCain because he was not the McCain of 2000 and I am pretty sure Obama lost votes to those who were Hilary Clinton supporters.
I mean come on- cast your vote in Nov 2012 and wait for the results- but my gut tells me that around 11pm November 4th you will be on here starting a thread of how fuck up it is that Obama got re-elected- that's just the way it looks.
Honestly Whirl you tell me personally how Obama's left wing policies are destroying you? It appears that the ass clowns who are running for the GOP spot are far right- is that any better?
If I said it once I will say it a million times- only way Obama loses next November is a near collapse of the economy- which even the most pessimistic economist does not see happening- by the way GDP under Obama has been growing albeit slowly- factor in that the GOP can no longer use the "boogey" man myth that they are better for national security because this administration has already knocked off public enemy #1 something the previous administration couldn't do in 7 years. Also Obama administration in just 3 years have captures/killed more Al-Queada/Taliban militants than all of Bush's years combined- that's fact!
And if those ass clowns want to tout that they will create more jobs if elected- HOW? People like you Whirl want to use deception and say that the deficit increased and Obama spent trillions- keep in mind people like you don't take in consideration that a huge chunk of that spending occurred in 2008 and is technically under Bush
Also, Whirl find me one economist who will state that during times of economic recession that is not VERY common for countries to increase their deficit because they quite naturally have to get people spending in order to increase the government revenue.
There's no way anyone with an iota of intelligence would believe you whirl if you said that Obama should not have used stimulus money, TARP and/or bail outs- because if he didn't do any of those this country's UE rate would easily be in the teens or 20% rate- FACT!
Finally, find me one credible source that shows that the majority of the UE is a result of Obama's policies?? The majority of the UE rate occurred in 2008 and the majority of the current 9.2% is attributed to the Bush years- that's FACT!!!.
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07-20-2011, 10:43 PM
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Finally, find me one credible source that shows that the majority of the UE is a result of Obama's policies?? The majority of the UE rate occurred in 2008 and the majority of the current 9.2% is attributed to the Bush years- that's FACT!!!.
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07-20-2011, 10:44 PM
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Well, when you're someone who posts under more than one handle so you can make your views appear more accepted than they would otherwise appear, "desperate" i think would be the proper term.
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Where did you all say that "IGNORE" button was?
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07-20-2011, 11:15 PM
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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000.
A few things worth noting. The unemployment rate in May '09, 4 months after Obama took office and inarguably prior to his policies having any major impact, was 9.4%. Today it stands at 9.2%, and it's actually down from it's peak of 10.1% in Oct '09.
For the purpose of comparing apples to apples, let's look at the record under Bush. In May of his inaugural year, the UE rate stood at 4.3%. 25 months later, in June of '03, it stood at 6.3% - an increase of 2 full percentage points. For Obama, from May of '09 to June of '11, the same respective 25 month period for his Presidency, it's gone from 9.4% to 9.2% - a minor drop, as opposed to a 2 percentage point increase.
Just pointin' out the facts.
Edit: Oh, and when Bush took office it was 4.2%. When he left, it was 7.8%. Good thing he cut taxes or God only knows what the unemployment rate would have looked like when he left office.
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07-20-2011, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Doove
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000.
A few things worth noting. The unemployment rate in May '09, 4 months after Obama took office and inarguably prior to his policies having any major impact, was 9.4%. Today it stands at 9.2%, and it's actually down from it's peak of 10.1% in Oct '09.
For the purpose of comparing apples to apples, let's look at the record under Bush. In May of his inaugural year, the UE rate stood at 4.3%. 25 months later, in June of '03, it stood at 6.3% - an increase of 2 full percentage points. For Obama, from May of '09 to June of '11, the same respective 25 month period for his Presidency, it's gone from 9.4% to 9.2% - a minor drop, as opposed to a 2 percentage point increase.
Just pointin' out the facts.
Edit: Oh, and when Bush took office it was 4.2%. When he left, it was 7.8%. Good thing he cut taxes or God only knows what the unemployment rate would have looked like when he left office.
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GOD BLESS YOU DOOVE!!!!
Whirl and others want to re-write history and/or they have amnesia during the Bush years. I look at it this way I am going to call a spade a spade- Jimmy Carter handed Ronald Reagan a huge fuck up- high interest rate, hostages in Iran, Oil embargo, long gas lines, high unemployment, inflation, etc and did Reagan fix the economy in his first 3 years??? Hell No- it took him two terms his best years were his 2nd term by far. Also, what did Reagan do- he increased taxes- he certainty was a big spender- look at how much the Defense budget rose from the Carter years to Reagan's years- in fact at that time Reagan had spent more money than all other Presidents combined- but do I fault Reagan- NO he did what had to be done to get America back on track- I can say at that time trickle down worked- not anymore.
Look at what Clinton handed Bush- a freaking ridiculous UE rate of 4.3%, no wars, a booming economy, a budget surplus, gas prices were very affordable.
Now look what Bush handed Obama- UE rate at 7.8% and was getting higher every day- 2 wars- one of them unjustified and fake- and let me add one that Obama voted against when he was a senator, a housing collapse, Public Enemy #1(Osama Bin Laden) still hiding or should I say relaxing and 3 years later Whirl you and the GOP expect all this crap to have been fixed? Are you Freaking kidding me?
Whirl I ask you again- Did Reagan fix Carter's problems in 3 years???? Was Reagan destroying America and future Generations with all the money he spent?
You get mad at Obama for wanting Health Care- were you mad at Reagan for wanting to spend billions on his Star Wars defense program? Remember that????
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07-21-2011, 05:50 AM
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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000.
A few things worth noting. The unemployment rate in May '09, 4 months after Obama took office and inarguably prior to his policies having any major impact, was 9.4%. Today it stands at 9.2%, and it's actually down from it's peak of 10.1% in Oct '09.
For the purpose of comparing apples to apples, let's look at the record under Bush. In May of his inaugural year, the UE rate stood at 4.3%. 25 months later, in June of '03, it stood at 6.3% - an increase of 2 full percentage points. For Obama, from May of '09 to June of '11, the same respective 25 month period for his Presidency, it's gone from 9.4% to 9.2% - a minor drop, as opposed to a 2 percentage point increase.
Just pointin' out the facts.
Edit: Oh, and when Bush took office it was 4.2%. When he left, it was 7.8%. Good thing he cut taxes or God only knows what the unemployment rate would have looked like when he left office.
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you should compare the Reagan recovery to the Odumbo recovery.....you couldn't HONESTLY say Odumbo knows economics after that comparison............HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
YOU ARE ONE DISHONEST DUMBASS, AND NOW WE KNOW WHY........
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07-21-2011, 06:28 AM
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And should anyone care about a similar comparison to the Reagan years:
In May of Reagan's first year, the rate was 7.5%. 25 months later, in June of '83 it was 10.1%.
So to recap: Using the same respective time periods in their Presidencies, under Bush, the UE climbed by 2 percentage points. Under Reagan, it increased by 2.6 percentage points. Under Obama, it dropped by 0.2 percentage points.
We report, you decide.
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