questions on ways to avoid seeing undercovers with turned accounts

[Makayla of Missouri]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

With your own incall, at least you control the scene. Since you don't let anyone know the exact location until they are in the parking lot, LE has no chance to set-up beforehand.

Chica....

I was busted in Nashville at an incall, with the standard 2-call-system, and once they revealed who they were, they were speaking amongst themselves and mentioned something about another girl at the same hotel they are getting next. They pull up in a vehicle with COMPLETELY blacked out windows (according to another thread by a provider busted by the same team I was) and seem to set up on the fly VERY VERY VERY quickly and precisely.

The one undeniable thing which gives them away is the constant pestering.... calling over and over and over and over......... It was so annoying that I answered just to tell him to buzz off. When I complained, he was so sweet that I forgot I was so irritated and accepted continued conversation.

Having said that, I have since learned how to PROPERLY screen!

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by ufriend2912

This is not true in Nashville. Stings for sweeps occur occasionally, but for individual escorts, these occur often.

Visitors are specifically targeted because they often do not know about the environment locally, nor who is a good local reference and who is not.

If you plan to visit Nashville, you have to do your research as to what to avoid. Always VERIFY !!! Never assume.

In every jurisdiction stings are paid through overtime which the department mandates. Pinpointing one specific girl is not generally done anywhere. Iam not saying a Police Dept won't encourage Vice Officers to make prostitution arrests on a daily basis, cause they do especially if they are experiencing a particular problem. Most Prostitution arrests in the past have been made exclusively on Street Walkers. Reason being, high visibility, influx of complaints. Now with the dawn of internet advertising of prostitution, Departments are noticing a high degree of traffic in and out of their cities Motels. Vice officers do check out Back Page and other Escort sites. They know whats going on they are aware of the out of state traffic of Escorts. I've posted this before, when it comes to Prostitution Stings the arrests is what the police seek, several of them, both johns and escorts. Convictions are not the priority. Entrapment is questionable to blatant. No Lawyer here or there or anywhere can give you advice on how not to get nabbed by the police. The Police have done their homework. Stings are planned days, even weeks ahead of time. Trying to figure out Police Covert Operations in this Forum is frivilous. Some Cities like Nashville have a greater than average police activity in trying to deter prostitution. Their success, if any is documented and often passed down to other cities having similar problems. Now decoys poseing as escorts can be LE but don't have to be. LE studies the way ads are presented and can make them look authentic so potential clients will make appointments. The only way to really avoid any LE involvement is to contact girls that are reputable especially in cities where LE activity is high, like Nashville. But the bottom line is LE activity is more about the arrest than the conviction.

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by LynnT

Sticking to incall, revealing location last minute, and not seeing newbies in a new city will certainty help limit chances.

More busts seem to be a lady doing outcalls.. and ladies with phone numbers listed in the open(easy targets) LE will less likely want to deal with trying to get through email screening to get you.

I also think in general the sex for money talk will come up rather quickly.. in the first few emails or the first phone call. (id have to do some research on that)Red flag obviously!!

Sure nothing above is fool proof but it will lessen the chance for sure.

The last minute call routine doesn't thwart LE's efforts. When he calls a provider and sets up an appointment he already has his foot in the door. When he arrives at your incall and calls you to get your room number, once you give it to him he call his coharts who are also in the parking lot. He arrives at your room and once you give him enough to committ the crime of prostitution you will be arrested. There is often a UCO in the hall way, one in the lobby and one outside in the parking lot.all equiped with cell phone and radio comm other than the one in your room. They studied how they were going to bust you for about a week. Some vice cops do a hell of a job others are dead give aways and can't make contact with you. But if they are sharp you are so busted. My advice to a provider who travels to a city with a high LE activity, I would avoid it. Vice cops are trash they don't do well in uniform thats why they are in vice. Many don't last but a few months and go back to patrol division because of the cut throats in Vice. They are like a pack of dogs when ones mean they're all mean, if one isn't they are ousted.