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Guest032112 · 05-24-2011, 12:55 PM

This discussion came up AGAIN in the condom thread and Ginger was kind enough to dig out the thread from many months ago that caused her to continue her research.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=7378

Ladies, for those of you who continue to have just CBJ on your menu in the "name of safety", please read and do your own research.

Guys, is it really a big deal for you? For me, its just not the same and over the years, I've only seen one Southern California provider who could pull it off and that was only the first time I saw her. After that it was bbbj.

Here's one of the other links from the thread that quantifies the minimal risk involved.

http://www.thebody.com/content/art40621.html

guest071811-3 · 05-24-2011, 01:01 PM

in this debate..its amazing the impact the human mind can have on making the decision on the subject.. evidence can be clear..evidence can be abundant.. but if the girls mind they truly believe they are safer.. aren't "giving of themselves as much".. or "saving something for their bf" they simply won't change..

the mind plays tricks on them to the point where they believe guys will try to sneak in CIM(if they don't allow it).. or they don't want that "nasty thing" in their mouth.. if a thin piece of plastic makes you feel better about a "nasty thing" then the mind truly is a powerful thing

way back in 2001/2002 the first time I "worked" i used condoms for blowjobs.. the girl i had spoken with swore "every girl did it this way".. so I knew no different.. about the second time I had to spend 15minutes sucking on plastic I was freakin done with that and gone were condoms for BJs.. luckily that was pre board days(me joining them).. and long before I went "full time"

incognito isis · 05-24-2011, 01:16 PM

Either way you slice it, you ARE safer with CBJ. I only do BBBJ with my regulars that i feel comfortable with and know a little about their lifestyles. I do not want herpes in my mouth. HIV is somewhat of a small risk with BBBJ, CIM/SWOLLOW is a bigger risk. Hepatitis is another risk of doing BBBJ. Bon apatit. I understand the fellas need for bbbj. But then again, you could always get a gf if you want bare services, no? To the ladies who do BBBJ, more power to you. It's your life, your body, and if you feel comfortable with what your doing then great. I don't feel the risks are worth what i charge. If I was to offer BBBJ to a strange man I just met, my rates would be significantly higher. If less people want to see me because I do CBJ, and my business comes to a halt, then it is time to do something else. I would never put my health before the almighty dollar.

Ginger Doll · 05-24-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arklookn4lovn

...For me, its just not the same and over the years, I've only seen one Southern California provider who could pull it off and that was only the first time I saw her. After that it was bbbj....

That's not entirely true, BB... You did see me when I first started & I was CBJ at that time. The condom tasted horrible, but the sushi was pretty damn good! If my elephant memory serves me correctly.

Joe Friday · 05-24-2011, 01:22 PM

My partner Bill Gannon once said, blowjobs are like pizza, even a bad slice is pretty darn good.

In my observations, the BBBJ always feels better unwrapped, but I've learned a thing or two along the way. If a lady feels more safe and comfortable and isn't worried about what to do with the DNA sample left in her mouth, she seems to be a little more enthusiastic.

Now find me a woman that is enthusiastic and gurgles that DNA with a smile, well mister, I will make that little lady Mrs. Friday and mow her lawn every Saturday before the Dodgers game.

Ginger Doll · 05-24-2011, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incognito isis

...If I was to offer BBBJ to a strange man I just met, my rates would be significantly higher...

Quote:

Originally Posted by incognito isis

...I would never put my health before the almighty dollar.

I'm a little confused.

MacTheKnife · 05-24-2011, 03:01 PM

Personally, I find BBBJs inconvenient. I feel all dirty and nasty. Prior to the date, I usually wash my d*ck off several times a day with hydrogen peroxide.

On the way to the incall, I usually stop by the local car wash and use the power washer to rinse my d*ck off.

Only then, do I feel clean and refreshed enough for the lady.

Commander Salamander · 05-24-2011, 03:08 PM

However one may try to rationalize the case for or against BBBJ's, it may just boil down to what one is comfortable with. Take for example the toilet seat. I presume we've all heard how it's more clean or has less germs than any other part of the house (due to the special attention most people give to keep it as such). However, I wouldn't eat off of it (even if I had just freshly cleaned it), whereas I probably wouldn't sweat it too much if I had eaten a stray food item off of the kitchen counter.

MrGiz · 05-24-2011, 04:18 PM

Hey Mac.... is that Starla in that ".gif" file ?

Definitely the first thought that came to me!!
Dunno.... must be time

That's one girl who isn't confused about the subject!

hyperkine · 05-24-2011, 04:22 PM

It's not just risk, with some providers it's a question of simple disgust--maybe they don't like the taste of bare penis that comes with going bbbj, maybe they don't like pre-cum, maybe they really don't like the idea of CIM or facials--cbj is a way to be sure that those don't happen.

Personally I pretty much only go with bbbj providers, maybe one cjb gal every year or two...and everything else about her has to be right in my wheelhouse.

Anyway I don't think you're going to convince anyone to go bareback bj with threads like this, I certainly don't bother with cajoling individual providers. I just move on to the next girl.

MacTheKnife · 05-24-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGiz

Hey Mac.... is that Starla in that ".gif" file ?

No, it's not Starla, but I often regret missing the opportunity of being on the receiving end of one of her bbbjs.

MrGiz · 05-24-2011, 06:54 PM

Starla is still available.... ya just gotta get a little lucky to catch things just right! *
That .gif represents her to a TEE!! * To anyone who hasn't.... I still recommend highly!!

Oh Yes.... it's been waaaaaaaay too long since I've enjoyed lookin' into Tori's eyes while she's "working"!!

Two Incredible Arkansas Playmates!!

granitecrusher · 05-25-2011, 03:19 AM

Give me BBBJ, or give me death!!!! Some things are better left covered, like the trash that walks into WAL-MART in a pair of daisey dukes and a tank top, looking like a whop biscuit, but the oral pleasures provided by a beautiful lady must remain uncovered!

Guest032112 · 05-25-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

That's not entirely true, BB... You did see me when I first started & I was CBJ at that time. The condom tasted horrible, but the sushi was pretty damn good! If my elephant memory serves me correctly.

You're memory serves you well, Ginger. BUT, you'll remember I also told you afterwards, the CBJ was a deal killer for me. So how does soy sauce make the latex taste?

Paloma still stands ask the only acceptable CBJ I've ever had and she has more than enough other skills that make up for it - the only reason I'd give her a call on my next So.Cal. trip.

PHAT_DATY · 05-25-2011, 02:16 PM

I prefer BBBJ, but if the price is lower and the lady is still cute and skilled, I won't let that get in the way.

I do expect any lady that is CBJ to be at a much lower price point since they are not providing the same services as the majority of providers offer.

In other words, if you are CBJ, your rates for an hour better be $200.00 or less for an hour or I won't be calling and I suspect most other guys won't be either.