GFE & PSE BLURRED?

[kenpachi]

Is there really a big difference between GFE and PSE?

[npita]

In my opinion PSE means ``impersonal GFE.''

[true_whatever]

And I have heard of "naughty GFE" also, just to make it even more confusing.

[Guest020720]

Yes,

Will a girl with gfe let u spank her ass, pull her hair, call her names, have her spit on ur dick during bbbj while on her knees in front of u and trying to deep throat it, begging for u to cof or cum on her tits....for starters.

[Guest091314]

There is a significant difference! PSE includes more activities that most GFE's do not offer, it ruins a visit for me when for some reason when a guy books with me in hopes for a "wild porn experience", and then gets upset when its not.

[kenpachi]

for me its been blurred lately starts out gfe but then ends in pse... which im not complaining

[Guest020720]

Originally Posted by kenpachi

for me its been blurred lately starts out gfe but then ends in pse... which im not complaining

"Like" x 10

[daty/o]

PSE, like GFE is open to broad interpretation. I doubt if you would get the same definition of either from any two providers. Now YMMV, there is something we can all agree on.

[Abraham]

GFE - the guy pops in 2 minutes or less.

PSE - the guy turns her every which way but loose for 30 to 40 minutes then jerks off.

I have never been able to deliver the PSE. Big Siiiiigh!

[kenpachi]

LMAOL abraham

[AngelaAspenXXX]

ALL of the Above!!!
At the same time, I have a friend in Denver that doesnt kiss. I would NEVER let her around my clients that like the GFE side of me. She would be a horrid representation of me with a client that likes to kiss.

BUT if I have a fetish friend that wants to bind her up and fuck her and she is simply a prop... super.

So that is a PSE that is not GFE. Its best if a girl can go with both but some girls get hung up on......kissing

(kisses)- Angela

[kenpachi]

a good point angela and i just wanted say you are slimpy devine

[PODarkness]

About 3 months ago, on another board, I PMed 5 providers who use the term PSE in their ad's, asking them for their definition of PSE. None had an answer. Three of them said "tell me what you want, and I'll tell you if I do it". Another asked me my definition. To make matters worse, one was CBJ only, and YMMV on DFK. Two of them were charging extra for PSE.

Someone mentioned that in porn, everyone rides bareback, but regardless of what we call it, it's covered in the hobby world. This was their proof that words (and acronyms) can mean whatever you want.

A woman I know who both provides and performs on camera, deals with BB / PSE requests by asking the gentleman if he has brought his two forms of ID and his current PCR-DNA test with him. She says it usually ends the discussion without watering down the meaning of PSE.

The nationwide trend of providers using fake pics, of advertising services they do not offer BCD, and of creating a new identity whenever the current one becomes unprofitable, is born of CL and BP. Why let it infect the reputable boards by lowering the standard for truth in advertising?

PSE & GFE do have common, accepted, & time honored definitions in the hobby. If they didn't, very few would find value in including them in their ad's. Yes, there are claims in many provider ads that have no real meaning or value, such as... "you've had the rest, now try the best!" I can't imagine anybody ever dialing a number because the ad said that. Guys do make choices, and calls, based on specific activities they enjoy, that the provider says are available.

By watering down the meanings, you are watering down the value of the ads.
I believe in doing research. Ads are part of it, so I'd like to see ads become more valuable, with better, more accurate information. I don't see honesty as more than we should expect from the ladies.

We don't think much of ladies who use fake pics, so why accept fake words, meaningless claims, and empty promises, by saying words can mean whatever you want?

Look at it this way. When I say that I'll have the requested donation in an envelope for the provider, is it OK that my personal definition of "requested donation" holds little in common with the providers expectations? How about "drug and disease free"? Discretion? Showered and shaved? Yea, those are rhetorical.

[Sleepy363]

GFE = Where she gets pissed off at you and makes you go sleep on the couch without getting laid.

PSE = Where she asks how much she gets paid for the scene. There are a bunch of people standing around you waiting for you to hurry up and get your limp ass dick up so they can shoot the scene and go to lunch.

[Guest071613-2]

Originally Posted by still-asleep

GFE = Where she gets pissed off at you and makes you go sleep on the couch without getting laid.

That's a wife experience, not a GFE...