High end market

[whitechocolate]

Actually, if the HDH provided what they should be providing for those high dollars, there would be a limited market and it would knock off the low end gals here who expect too much money for almost no decent service. The 300 to 500 gals in general seem to know the score when it comes to service for that fee. I think there are guys here who will pay for exceptional service.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Nina:

Have to disagree. I've had the good fortune of being treated to meals that cost more then my rate. That isn't limited to 10k girls, you just have to attract men with 6-7 figure incomes that are happy to treat their ATF. I've been taken to many exclusive places. If he has the money, and you make him happy, he'll share his world.

As such, I don't have to spend my own money, or give questionable "extras" to have access to that world. When later down the road another wealthy person shows up, we can talk about those common experiences. They accumulate over time if a woman keeps her success.

Men with money aren't always willing to spend 10k - I've hear extremely wealthy people say it's ridiculous to pay that. He may have 20+ million and say no to that. Preferring to pay what he considers an amount that is respectful of hos success rather than take advantage of it. The key is someone he adores that likely attracts fewer initial callers. I that can relate to his experiences, even make suggestions, and he can eagerly share more such experiences, withou fear of being embarrassed.

you are right, but that wasn`t the point i was making. Some gents pay 10 000 for a lady because they have a certain fetish for that kind of experience. It has a lot to do with power as well. Many people find many things ridiculous. Some find us ridiculous and we still get our business.

The point i was making is that there is no difference in between someone like you (or me) or someone that charges 300 an hour within the above mentioned. I know a significant amount of escorts private and workwise. And my experience has shown me that what you stated - the difference - is not there. I have not met someone in your league that was significantly smarter than someone that was in the 300 dollar an hour league. But - as stated - i met a lot of women in "our" league that were significantly dumber.

I mean how would you call a woman that pays her own flights, does not take deposits, brags on her homepage how educated and smart is and that she needs letters of introduction from clients and does not screen them but trust her gut feeling?
And then she gets stood up from clients that she did not collect deposits from and is already in the other city AT HER OWN EXPENSES? taking deposits is something even a 3 year old would know. True story! I am not lying! Seriously! She charges 500 an hour. Probably to get all the expenses in she has to come up for when clients stand her up ;-)))). And in the end she earns less than a 300 dollar escort and still thinks she is smarter :-)).....Hehehehehehehehe.

And Lauren, you might have seen my homepage. we are charging about the same rates. So you don`t need to tell me that sometimes the hotel/dinner or whatnot costs more than the whole rate. Been there done that. :-). That was not the point i tried to make ;-).

My point was the bragging of some of these HDHS and their actual stupidity or engagement in bareback activities. I don`t say you do that or i would not do it either. But many do. ANd these are the ones i call stupid, dumb, idiotic or whatnot. ANd all of them seem to charge minimum 500 an hour. I have not heard of anyone that charges 300 an hour being available for these kind of stupidities :-). ANd the point you made that they are different in their education or level of "worldly" education is wrong.

And i am talking about someone in OUR league that brags about how smart she is. Smarter than others. And you seemed to underline that facts, although i don`t see you as someone being so braggadacious. But this distinction as if something else than the rate actually was different i regard as wrong.

Other than that i agree with what you said here. I know plenty of men that would not even bother buying an escort no matter what rate she charges because they find the whole escort scene stupid. Some pay 10 000 for some VS models . Some pay 600 an hour for some bareback wanna be HDH. what ever.

The point is not what the client wants. the point is the perception of the women about themselves. clients are easy to satisfy ;-)). we all know that And i am also charging 500 an hour, but i don`t htink anything about me is different to someone that charges less.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by whitechocolate

The 300 to 500 gals in general seem to know the score when it comes to service for that fee.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

LMFAO

That's because when they succeed they blink out of existence

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by whitechocolate

Actually, if the HDH provided what they should be providing for those high dollars, there would be a limited market and it would knock off the low end gals here who expect too much money for almost no decent service. The 300 to 500 gals in general seem to know the score when it comes to service for that fee. I think there are guys here who will pay for exceptional service.

Not at all.

So many times we lose sight of the "broader" or "overall" market so to speak.

The overwhelming volume is done at the low end/SW level

The internet has blurred things a bit with BP/CL/etc

Then there is a higher end gal that due to whatever combination of attributes can get away with charging more (whatever that number is)

That seems to be the group that hangs here

Then there is the group that can charge more/pay a great deal more. They exist but are few in numbers

The vast majority of volume will always be at the lower end & in real terms the improvements in access (namely the internet) will do nothing but drive the overall median price down. In fact as it relates to median price the HDH is market insignificant

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

The vast majority of volume will always be at the lower end & in real terms the improvements in access (namely the internet) will do nothing but drive the overall median price down. In fact as it relates to median price the HDH is market insignificant

Well that would explain why they are mythical.

[whitechocolate]

I was not saying the low end gals would go away, i was just saying they would be forced to give better service even for their low fees. But that would only apply to some of them who want to go on to be 200 to 500 gals. Many of the low end gals are just clueless anyway.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Agreed.

I also notice that the men who pay high dollar often have a higher standard of living then most achieve, as such they want to see a lady who has had access to his lifestyle and can relate. .

Only if they have a small weiner. But that is just a person with money those types are easy to play but that is not real HDH IMHO.

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Agreed.

. If she's successful she's had gentlemen show her the best the world has to offer.

If she knows wtf she is doing she shows the gents in her lifethe ways of the world! A successful woman elevates a mans sense of worth from the material to the sublime.That is HDH, again IMHO

[WTF]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Well that would explain why they are mythical.

They are mythical on this board because they have figured out the more they post, the more people will figure out the illusion.


There as only been one real HDH the posted on this board as far as I remember but there have been some smart cookies here none the less. We still have some smart cookies posting btw.

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Okay, here is a hint. You and the general ECCIE crowd are not the target market for HDH ladies.

There used to be quite a few that posted here (and at ASPD), but they have been pretty much run off by the general rudeness. Hope & change baby!

PJ, you have it ass backwards. It was rude to flaunt ones riches on a public board. Shit I was taught that at an early age and I didn't have shit to flaunt!

That type of stupidity was run off on the merits.

It is not a matter of not talking about things, it was a matter of how to talk about certain things. Most did not know how to do so and were treated accordingly.

[sofiaofhouston]

Originally Posted by Can I Play Too???

Most of the providers here are from 300 and under with a few exceptions. You are asking for diamonds in a cubic zirconia marketplace. The best escorts don't advertise, don't you know? You must be the only gent here who wants more expensive products. I'm sure your pm box will be filled by tomorrow.

Not all are

[Naomi4u]

But wait.....

What about the girls that have two different identities. One high end persona ($4000 for 3 hours) and one mid range ($300 an hour). I know a few escorts like that. It's funny to read the reviews of the two personas. Just goes to show .... :Men are so easy to fool.

[sofiaofhouston]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

........and I'd love to be a fly on the wall during one of your dates.

Originally Posted by Laynie Harper

Darling, the problem is, you need to be willing to import the finer things in life. You want caviar, you have to bring it in from Iran or Russia, you want Champagne, you need to bring it in from France. You want the ultimate VIP provider - a sophisticated, educated, fiercely intelligent woman with a sparkling personality, amazing all natural body, and elegant wardrobe from the Gucci dress and YSL shoes to the La Perla lingerie, you need to import her from Los Angeles. I am that girl, I am worth every penny, and I am the hobby's best kept secret.

I would need a 4-hour minimum engagement and travel expenses to come to you.

• No one says caviar, they just say "beluga" it's implied. It's like saying "horseback riding".....What the hell else are you going to ride....We just say "riding"
• Champagne can only be from one region of France, otherwise you have sparkling wine.
• Did you catch fashion week? Gucci has an off season with dresses in 2011.
• La Perla...tsk tsk tsk....You should go out of the USA and get "Agent Provacateur"

If you wanna play a WASP you'll need lessons.....

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

yes ..AND i wear high heels but its not always good being so tall. Most men like women smaller than them. :-). When i was in siwtzerland i had to wear flat shoes while working because swiss men are sometimes really small and they got scared looking up to me...:-((((.

LOL! Really? Too funny!! Geez!

Can't wait to meet you .

Originally Posted by sofiaofhouston

• No one says caviar, they just say "beluga" it's implied. It's like saying "horseback riding".....What the hell else are you going to ride....We just say "riding"
• Champagne can only be from one region of France, otherwise you have sparkling wine.
• Did you catch fashion week? Gucci has an off season with dresses in 2011.
• La Perla...tsk tsk tsk....You should go out of the USA and get "Agent Provacateur"

If you wanna play a WASP you'll need lessons.....

Interesting. My comments had nothing to do with anything she said.
I simply looked at her photos http://www.laynieharper.com/gallery_main.php and posted
that comment. I think she's HOT.....even if she wore gucci. I don't care too much about that stuff.

[Guest052115]

Originally Posted by incognito isis

$1,000 for a CBJ? Wow there truely is a sucker born everyday. Again, soem guys are really into the illusion of getting something special. Money does not always get you better. For 200-400 he could have had BBBJ!!

I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but since Chica Chaser referenced my review, and Isis basically called me a sucker, I feel I must explain the reasoning for seeing the HDH, at least as it pertains to me.

I don't expect any of you to understand unless you hobby for the exact same reasons I do. I already knew this woman was CBJ, and yet, I still chose to meet her anyway. Now why did I do that? Because I'm a sucker like Isis (and I'm sure many others think so too) said? No, my main reason for hobbying is to meet exceptionally beautiful women, the 9's and 10's of our industry. A CBJ isn't going to stop me from seeing someone if they match what I look for physically. Now, if she was totally non-GFE, then that would be a deal breaker. Sure, I could've had a BBBJ for 200-400. However, unless they look like that woman I reviewed, then I'm not interested. Sorry, but there is no substitute for exceptional beauty.

So many people keep telling me, there are 9's and 10's available at 200-300. Okay, great! Then when I ask them to give some examples, they always fail to step up to the plate. Why is that? Maybe they already know my tastes and preferences are much different than theirs.

I've spent an equal amount of time in the low end as I have at the high end. Whenever I see the 200-300 girls, I still have a good time, but are they truly what I am looking for? Not really. That's why I sometimes see the high-end escort. Isis, it's not about having an illusion of getting something special. It's about finding exactly what you want. "Exactly what I want" does not exist at 200-300, at least for me. I've looked for many years and have yet to find it at that price level.

While I was in Vegas, I met a few other women in a similar price range who were all BBBJ that I haven't reviewed yet. Nothing against you Chica, but you just happened to reference my one high-dollar review that was CBJ.

Some guys pay a premium for better service. Some pay for exclusivity. While others pay for companionship only. I pay for exceptional beauty. Yes, the GFE service has to be there as well, but a CBJ isn't going to be a deal breaker for me as long as everything else is on the menu. Call me shallow, stupid, a sucker, or whatever you want. I really don't care what anybody on this board thinks of me. I know exactly what I want, and I go after it.

The concept of worth can only be determined by each individual man. If a guy spends 5000 for one evening with a woman, and it was worth it to him, then it really was. Nobody should be able to tell him he overpaid. Likewise, if a guy spends X amount on a provider I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, I shouldn't be able to tell him he wasted his money. If he's happy and he felt she was worth the money, then she was. That is the only thing that matters.

Again, unless you have the same mindset as me, then you're never going to understand why I do what I do.

[Valerie]

Originally Posted by The Nameless One

I wasn't going to comment on this thread, but since Chica Chaser referenced my review, and Isis basically called me a sucker, I feel I must explain the reasoning for seeing the HDH, at least as it pertains to me.

I don't expect any of you to understand unless you hobby for the exact same reasons I do. I already knew this woman was CBJ, and yet, I still chose to meet her anyway. Now why did I do that? Because I'm a sucker like Isis (and I'm sure many others think so too) said? No, my main reason for hobbying is to meet exceptionally beautiful women, the 9's and 10's of our industry. A CBJ isn't going to stop me from seeing someone if they match what I look for physically. Now, if she was totally non-GFE, then that would be a deal breaker. Sure, I could've had a BBBJ for 200-400. However, unless they look like that woman I reviewed, then I'm not interested. Sorry, but there is no substitute for exceptional beauty.

So many people keep telling me, there are 9's and 10's available at 200-300. Okay, great! Then when I ask them to give some examples, they always fail to step up to the plate. Why is that? Maybe they already know my tastes and preferences are much different than theirs.

I've spent an equal amount of time in the low end as I have at the high end. Whenever I see the 200-300 girls, I still have a good time, but are they truly what I am looking for? Not really. That's why I sometimes see the high-end escort. Isis, it's not about having an illusion of getting something special. It's about finding exactly what you want. "Exactly what I want" does not exist at 200-300, at least for me. I've looked for many years and have yet to find it at that price level.

While I was in Vegas, I met a few other women in a similar price range who were all BBBJ that I haven't reviewed yet. Nothing against you Chica, but you just happened to reference my one high-dollar review that was CBJ.

Some guys pay a premium for better service. Some pay for exclusivity. While others pay for companionship only. I pay for exceptional beauty. Yes, the GFE service has to be there as well, but a CBJ isn't going to be a deal breaker for me as long as everything else is on the menu. Call me shallow, stupid, a sucker, or whatever you want. I really don't care what anybody on this board thinks of me. I know exactly what I want, and I go after it.

The concept of worth can only be determined by each individual man. If a guy spends 5000 for one evening with a woman, and it was worth it to him, then it really was. Nobody should be able to tell him he overpaid. Likewise, if a guy spends X amount on a provider I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, I shouldn't be able to tell him he wasted his money. If he's happy and he felt she was worth the money, then she was. That is the only thing that matters.

Again, unless you have the same mindset as me, then you're never going to understand why I do what I do.

I think there are plenty of providers out there in the 200-400 range who are both beautiful and GFE