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03-15-2011, 02:29 AM
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Screening Tips
Hello beautiful people,
I'm new to the business and would like to get some advice. I'm independent and would like to know what is a good way to go about screening potential clients. For example, what information should i ask for and how do I verify the info? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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03-15-2011, 02:44 AM
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Some helpful advice that I go by, I hope it helps you:
1. Do not discuss anything other then date/time/location over the phone or in person. Do not discuss the donation over the phone or in person. Any questions about the donation should be done via emails.
2. Make sure the client knows to keep the donation visible. I tell the client to leave it in the bathroom if I am going to a hotel. I do pleanty of touching first and then I excuse myself to the bathroom to collect the donation. If there is no donation, leave. You dont need that BS.
3. Do all your communication via email or a website. The golden rule here is keep your mouth shut. LE will try to get you to admit to stuff over the phone/in person.
4. do not respond to emails with photos of naked bodies/genitalia. They are time wasters.
5. To weed out the time wasters (which you will be able to do in time) have a 3 or 4 email limit with a potential cient. IN time, you will see that tons of time wasters, tire kickers, freebie fishers, and pen pal seekers will be contacting you. AVOID!! Any client who sais they want to meet you, but they don't know when...move on! Tell them to meail you when they know when they can meet you. Don't give into the pen pal guys.
6. Screen as much as possible. Not ALL hobbyists have references. Some are newbys. Newbys need love too. So if a client has no references, then the alternative is to ask them for employment verification. ALOT of clients don't want to do that, but tell them you need to make sure their not LE.
...Theres more but it's late and I'm tired. I'm sure others will chime in with their advice also.
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03-15-2011, 03:10 AM
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Hello LadyLove and welcome to ECCIE!
I have moved your thread over here from "Business Services" as "Security Matters" is much more pertinent to the topic.
You might want to peruse this thread as well, there is a lot of really good information:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=162287
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03-21-2011, 07:42 AM
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A newbie should be able to show you...
Texas drivers license
Old out of state drivers license
Passport or Passport Card
A refinery worker will have all sorts of other cards
Old company employment ID [that shows the newbie 10 years or more younger]
How about techie transcripts?
etc etc
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03-21-2011, 09:31 PM
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Thanks guys..
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03-22-2011, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by incognito isis
Some helpful advice that I go by, I hope it helps you:
1. Do not discuss anything other then date/time/location over the phone or in person. Do not discuss the donation over the phone or in person. Any questions about the donation should be done via emails.
2. Make sure the client knows to keep the donation visible. I tell the client to leave it in the bathroom if I am going to a hotel. I do pleanty of touching first and then I excuse myself to the bathroom to collect the donation. If there is no donation, leave. You dont need that BS.
3. Do all your communication via email or a website. The golden rule here is keep your mouth shut. LE will try to get you to admit to stuff over the phone/in person.
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The problem with emails is that it is the equivalent of a paper trail.
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03-22-2011, 09:04 AM
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I gues I have a comment for II. First it's doesn't matted from a legal stand point if you say the donation over the phone, in an email or directly in the ad itself. If LE is conducting a sting your going to get popped anyway.
Secondly, yes there are some time wasters but hobbyist screen as well over the phone through text and through email. We have just as much to lose as the provider. If a provider has questionable photos those that look tgtbt then as part of the screening don't be surprised if you get a request for a current non nude non professional pic. If you have a problem with that then you will lose business. There are too many scams out there and the hobbyists time is just as important as yours.
There are alot of jaded providers Lady Love I think you'll be able to figure it out pretty quickly. In the end the smartest thing for you to do from a legal standpoint is to talk to a criminal lawyer in your area. Theyre not going to suggest that you brak the law but they could provide you with suggestions on how to limit your exposure.
On posting Pics... Depends. Myself personally if I schedule an appointment and a provider has used a fake pic and looks nothing like the pic don't be pissed when the hobbyist walks away! You've just wasted our time. It's not just your time!
Just some food for thought!
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03-22-2011, 01:25 PM
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One note is that checking ID, passport, work cards, etc. happens once the potential client is already there. By then it is too late. If they are LE you are already busted. If they are abusive or going to rob you..well, it is too late because they are already there.
P411, RS2000, Datecheck, are very good resources. I personally would prefer every man I see to come from P411. In the absence of a screening website like those the next best thing is to get two to three recent provider references. Do your homework and make sure they are "real" providers (been around a while, have reviews, etc) and then contact the providers for a reference.
If you must use checking an ID, passport, etc. Meet in a public place and enjoy a cup of coffee or a soft drink with the man, and spend some time with him to see if your spidey senses go off. This is not the best method to do but it is better than having an absolute unscreened stranger show up at your door.
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04-02-2011, 09:09 PM
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Welcome! Great advice above! To verify newbies, I require them to either sign up for Datecheck or p411. It takes time, and some don't want to put that time into it. It's their loss! If they can't verify them, I can't!
Before I had a system I would have people email me pics of their work ID's, let me into their personal facebook accounts, even call and ask for them at the elem. school they work at You have ti figure out what works for you! Enjoy your job, and NEVER take chances!
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04-03-2011, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by incognito isis
Some helpful advice that I go by, I hope it helps you:
5. To weed out the time wasters (which you will be able to do in time) have a 3 or 4 email limit with a potential cient. IN time, you will see that tons of time wasters, tire kickers, freebie fishers, and pen pal seekers will be contacting you. AVOID!! Any client who sais they want to meet you, but they don't know when...move on! Tell them to meail you when they know when they can meet you. Don't give into the pen pal guys.
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I Absolutely disagree with you here.
If you are P411 member go there and look at my profile why I say this: Joh-12-Z-2373
I've always exchanged many emails just to get to know each other, so we are almost friends before we meet. It is for both our safety.
It keeps me safe from disappointments.
But my references are okay.
Once I exchanged 80 emails before we first met in 7 weeks, she's now my ATF and I've seen her multiple times.
Waverunner234
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04-05-2011, 09:26 AM
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if they are from eccie it is easier to get a potential cleint screened. If they aren't and have no accounts on any local or international board I always ask for provider refrences. A provider ref. is the name and number of a provider that the client has been with whom you can call to verify him through.
hope this helps hun take care
xoxoxox
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04-05-2011, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Simonsez
I gues I have a comment for II. First it's doesn't matted from a legal stand point if you say the donation over the phone, in an email or directly in the ad itself. If LE is conducting a sting your going to get popped anyway.
Secondly, yes there are some time wasters but hobbyist screen as well over the phone through text and through email. We have just as much to lose as the provider. If a provider has questionable photos those that look tgtbt then as part of the screening don't be surprised if you get a request for a current non nude non professional pic. If you have a problem with that then you will lose business. There are too many scams out there and the hobbyists time is just as important as yours.
There are alot of jaded providers Lady Love I think you'll be able to figure it out pretty quickly. In the end the smartest thing for you to do from a legal standpoint is to talk to a criminal lawyer in your area. Theyre not going to suggest that you brak the law but they could provide you with suggestions on how to limit your exposure.
On posting Pics... Depends. Myself personally if I schedule an appointment and a provider has used a fake pic and looks nothing like the pic don't be pissed when the hobbyist walks away! You've just wasted our time. It's not just your time!
Just some food for thought!
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While you're absolutely correct on the discussion of the donation amount, I think you may have misunderstood the OP. She asked about screening clients, not about a client's right to screen an escort.
Yes, if you include an amount of $ in exchange for anything BCD, you're fair game. Understood and noted. Clients should check out escorts they may want to see, just as an escort should screen her clients. There are tons of ways to verify that a companion is reputable, and it seems you know them well. But I think that's another topic for another thread.
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if they are from eccie it is easier to get a potential cleint screened. If they aren't and have no accounts on any local or international board I always ask for provider refrences. A provider ref. is the name and number of a provider that the client has been with whom you can call to verify him through.
hope this helps hun take care
xoxoxox
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I disagree. Regardless of whether a potential client is a member of eccie...screening is still screening in my book. Of all the members I've had contact me, only two have actually had reviews here. That means I've had to ask them for references, which neither had. Regardless of where they are a member (eccie, who does no initial screening for you, P411 who does preliminary screening, Date-Check, etc), in order to stay safe and well, each and every client who contacts you must be screened.
If you have never seen him, always ask for references. If he has none, some providers will accept a few personal details (name, dob, phone, employer). All these things must be checked. If I have to verify and employer, I say I'm "Nina with Capital One Mortgage Dept." verifying employment. Ask for a title & length of employment. I also check criminal background to ensure that nothing unsafe has happened with anyone else. Checking alert sections on various boards (refs or not) is always helpful...you can look for email, phone, name, etc.
Good luck! PM any reputable lady if you ever need anything. We're all on board with keeping one another safe and secure.
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