Tariffs - genius or the beginning of the end?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

When they fact check that post, lmk.

Sheesh. Why are you making me do this?

CNN already fact-checked you in the linked article above. To quote:

"Trump implemented sweeping tariffs on about $300 billion of Chinese-made products when he was in office. President Joe Biden has kept those tariffs in place and, after the USTR finished a multiyear review earlier this year, decided to increase some of the rates on about $15 billion of Chinese imports."

Biden kept the Trump tariffs in place. What part of "kept those tariffs in place" do you not understand?

GM was right. CNN is right. You are wrong.

[Green_Mountain]

Really? I knew potato head Joe was a winner.

What results did his noble and diplomatic actions with Mexico provide?

All I saw was an enormous increase in illegals and the word that starts with F that I can’t say.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

So she extracted some promises from Trump. Nice.

She's proven a savvy leader with a cool head thus far.

A trend appears to be emerging that Trump's a tariff paper tiger

Originally Posted by lustylad

Sheesh. Why are you making me do this?

CNN already fact-checked you in the linked article above. To quote:

"Trump implemented sweeping tariffs on about $300 billion of Chinese-made products when he was in office. President Joe Biden has kept those tariffs in place and, after the USTR finished a multiyear review earlier this year, decided to increase some of the rates on about $15 billion of Chinese imports."

Biden kept the Trump tariffs in place. What part of "kept those tariffs in place" do you not understand?

GM was right. CNN is right. You are wrong.

You're only focused on the China tariffs. My comments wasn't China specific. I'm very comfy it's accurate

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Really? I knew potato head Joe was a winner.

What results did his noble and diplomatic actions with Mexico provide?

All I saw was an enormous increase in illegals and the word that starts with F that I can’t say.

Sorry, this is about tariffs. Not taking that bait.

[HDGristle]

Alex Panetta on CBC this morning really laid into Trump on tariffs.

"The thing about tariffs as a threat is that it's only effective if you use them, you can't constantly back away like he did with Colombia the other day and that it appears may be happening with Mexico..."

Lol

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

You're only focused on the China tariffs. My comment wasn't China specific. I'm very comfy it's accurate

Nice weasel move. So you admit it's inaccurate with respect to China?

[HDGristle]

Do the China-focused tariffs include rods, reels and blood worms?

[onawbtngr546]

Should start calling them trump's national sales tax.


Because that's basically what it is. It's going to effect the bottom line of people who have a lot less than the people who have a lot more. And there's a lot more people who have less than those who have more.



Let them eat cake.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

It's kind of like praising Trump for getting Mexico to send 10k troops to the border for a surge.

Biden got Mexico to do that without a big hullabaloo about tariffs. In 2021.

Gristle - you say Biden got Mexico to send 10,000 troops to the border way back in 2021. Does today's announcement by Mexican President Sheinbaum increase that total to 20,000 troops?

Please clarify.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Should start calling them trump's national sales tax.


Because that's basically what it is. It's going to effect the bottom line of people who have a lot less than the people who have a lot more. And there's a lot more people who have less than those who have more.



Let them eat cake.

Why did Biden not cancel Trumps tariffs from his 1st term?

Did he forget? Did the interns not slide the paper in front of him to sign?

[Devo]

Mexico caved, sending 10 K troops to the border if Trump ends the tariffs.

One day, more winning.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Why did Biden not cancel Trumps tariffs from his 1st term?

Did he forget? Did the interns not slide the paper in front of him to sign?

But, but, but... Gristle has assured us that Joey "eliminated" tariffs and "gave waivers" to lots of countries (other than China). He just can't tell us which tariffs or which countries or - most importantly - the amount of trade affected.

Did Biden lift a 5% tariff on clothespin imports from Albania? If so, that surely proves Gristle's point!

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Why did Biden not cancel Trumps tariffs from his 1st term?

Did he forget? Did the interns not slide the paper in front of him to sign?

Look at what he did with the EU tariffs on aluminum, among other things.

Those moves staved off retaliatory tariffs on goods like our beloved bourbon which are back in play if Trump wants to pursue tariffs on the EU.

Biden kept most China in place. Even added to them, despite his team admitting that existing tariffs hadn't changed the Chinese behaviors. They were in a position to play the tariff avoidance game to still get their products in and we ate the cost as the prices increased despite the Chinese product avoiding the tariff. They also have a wildcard they can play to blunt the impact.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Gristle - you say Biden got Mexico to send 10,000 troops to the border way back in 2021. Does today's announcement by Mexican President Sheinbaum increase that total to 20,000 troops?

Please clarify.

http://www.google.com

Or maybe go ask Grok

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Biden kept most China in place. Even added to them, despite his team admitting that existing tariffs hadn't changed the Chinese behaviors.

Biden ADDED tariffs? But Ona said tariffs are a tax and only billionaires can pay or something to that effect.

So which is it?
A. All tariffs are good
B. All tariffs are bad
C. Biden approved tariffs are good. Trump approved tariffs are bad.
D. Trump is right, but orange man bad