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Old 12-09-2024, 12:14 PM   #1
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Default Trump says RFK Jr. will investigate the discredited link between vaccines and autism: ‘Somebody has to find out’

One of the most widely debunked claims in medical history is making a comeback, according to our brilliant President-elect and his designee for HHS, RFKJ. Trump said "someone has to find out." Well, hundreds of medical studies over decades has enabled medical science to "find out."

I suppose next, they'll look into the moon landing.

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Trump says RFK Jr. will investigate the discredited link between vaccines and autism: ‘Somebody has to find out’
Researchers attribute a rise in autism diagnoses to increased screening and changing definitions of the condition. Hundreds of studies have found childhood vaccines to be safe.


Trump says RFK Jr. will investigate discredited link between vaccines and autism


President-elect Donald Trump suggested that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his pick to run Health and Human Services, will investigate supposed links between autism and childhood vaccines, a discredited connection that has eroded trust in the lifesaving inoculations.

“I think somebody has to find out,” Trump said in an exclusive interview with “Meet the Press” moderator Kristen Welker. Welker noted in a back-and-forth that studies have shown childhood vaccines prevent about 4 million deaths worldwide every year, have found no connection between vaccines and autism, and that rises in autism diagnoses are attributable to increased screening and awareness. “If you go back 25 years ago,” Trump claimed, “you had very little autism. Now you have it.”

“Something is going on,” Trump added. “I don’t know if it’s vaccines. Maybe it’s chlorine in the water, right? You know, people are looking at a lot of different things.” It was unclear whether Trump was referring to opposition by Kennedy and others to fluoride being added to drinking water.

Kennedy, the onetime independent presidential candidate who backed Trump after leaving the race, generated a large following through his widespread skepticism of the American health care and food system. A major component of that has been his false claims linking autism to childhood vaccinations. Kennedy is the founder of a prominent anti-vaccine activist group, Children’s Health Defense.

The agency Trump has tasked him with running supports and funds research into autism, as well as possible new vaccines.

The debunked link between autism and childhood vaccines, particularly the inoculation against mumps, measles and rubella, was first claimed in 1998 by a British doctor who was later banned from practicing medicine in the United Kingdom. His research was found to be critically flawed and was subsequently retracted. Hundreds of studies have found childhood vaccines to be safe.

Autism diagnoses have risen from about 1 in 150 children in 2000 to 1 in 36 today, though researchers have pointed to increased screening and changing definitions of the condition as the basis for that rise. Scientists have found a strong genetic link to the complex disorder, with many risk factors occurring before birth or during delivery.
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Old 12-09-2024, 12:16 PM   #2
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But people say that vaccines cause autism. Surely that makes it true. Thanks to RFKjr we will finally have all the answers.
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Old 12-09-2024, 01:01 PM   #3
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Then explain why the unvaccinated Amish people have zero cases of Autism. Look it up!
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Old 12-09-2024, 01:22 PM   #4
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But people say that vaccines cause autism. Surely that makes it true. Thanks to RFKjr we will finally have all the answers.
It's easy to blame something for the cause of a disease. To debunk any claim, you must first find out what actually causes a particular disease. So, what causes Autism? If the medical community doesn't know for sure, then they can't and shouldn't rule out vaccines.
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There is no proven link at this time. If the Gov wants to spend more funds to study this, well....
Elon and RFKjr can talk about funding
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There is no proven link at this time. If the Gov wants to spend more funds to study this, well....
Elon and RFKjr can talk about funding
They don't know what truly causes Autism. Whatever does cause it, I am sure the medical community certainly wouldn't want to confirm Vaccines have a viable role because that could open up a whole can of worms Socially, Medically and Legally. Besides Autism isn't considered a life threatening disease.
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There is no proven link at this time. If the Gov wants to spend more funds to study this, well....
Elon and RFKjr can talk about funding
Years of medical research and hundreds of studies say they aren't linked.
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Old 12-09-2024, 02:30 PM   #8
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It's easy to blame something for the cause of a disease. To debunk any claim, you must first find out what actually causes a particular disease. So, what causes Autism? If the medical community doesn't know for sure, then they can't and shouldn't rule out vaccines.
Not true. You can rule something out based on research, as this has been done ad nauseum for decades.
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Correct that they don't know. But they are still spending funds on exactly that. So if RFKjr can get more funding into that, good for him.
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Not true. You can rule something out based on research, as this has been done ad nauseum for decades.
Is that a absolute fact or just your hopeful opinion?
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Is that a absolute fact or just your hopeful opinion?
Based on hundreds of medical studies conducted over decades, it's a fact.

Additionally, the doctor who authored and pushed the autism theory STILL isn't licensed to practice medicine in the UK.

That, too, is an absolute fact.
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Correct that they don't know. But they are still spending funds on exactly that. So if RFKjr can get more funding into that, good for him.
Well, it takes money to research the cause and treatments of health issues. My whole point is they shouldn't leave no stone unturned. People want to argue that Vaccines can't possibly the cause of Autism, there's no link, no scientific data. I would say that anytime chemicals are injected into the human body there is always that chance of a bad outcome.
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Based on hundreds of medical studies conducted over decades, it's a fact.

Additionally, the doctor who authored and pushed the autism theory STILL isn't licensed to practice medicine in the UK.

That, too, is an absolute fact.
Ok, post the scientific method that prompted that conclusion. Otherwise, it's just mere speculation to cover someone's ass.
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Ok, post the scientific method that prompted that conclusion. Otherwise, it's just mere speculation to cover someone's ass.
Google is your friend.

You'll find all the studies online.
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Google is your friend.

You'll find all the studies online.
If you've read them and actually understood what you were reading, then you should have an understanding of the scientific method used to rule out vaccines as a culprit for the onset of Autism and apparently you don't otherwise you wouldn't be wanting me to look it up.
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