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Old 06-06-2024, 04:06 PM   #1
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Default Why Haven’t The 50+ Security Experts Been Charged With Election Interference??

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276

Those “50+ intelligence experts” that placed their signatures on a document claiming that the Hunter Lap Top was “Russian Disinformation” have not been held accountable.

Especially that now, in a court of law, the FBI has certified that the Lap Top is 100% authentic.

It went so far as allowing then Presidential Candidate Joe Biden to use this document to claim in a debate, that it was Russian Disinformation.

And let’s not forget every Main Stream Media pundit parroting the same lie.

When a person places their signature to a 100% false document that had a great. Influence on an election, they should be held accountable.
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Old 06-06-2024, 04:17 PM   #2
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... Just wait 'til Next Year... And a new AG, maybe Rudy G!
Then we'll see... And a revoking of 50 or so security clearances.
... Seeing-as the 50 or so outright lied to the American people
- they can never be trusted again.

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Old 06-06-2024, 04:18 PM   #3
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276

Those “50+ intelligence experts” that placed their signatures on a document claiming that the Hunter Lap Top was “Russian Disinformation” have not been held accountable.

Especially that now, in a court of law, the FBI has certified that the Lap Top is 100% authentic.

It went so far as allowing then Presidential Candidate Joe Biden to use this document to claim in a debate, that it was Russian Disinformation.

And let’s not forget every Main Stream Media pundit parroting the same lie.

When a person places their signature to a 100% false document that had a great. Influence on an election, they should be held accountable.
What exactly are they going to charge them with? Using their first amendment right to free speech. These were not government employees but rather private citizens who rendered a personal opinion based on their own personal experience. They were wrong and if asked about it they would probably admit it.

If you can prove some kind of collusion between the authors of the paper and the Biden campaign then you have a point.
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Old 06-06-2024, 04:28 PM   #4
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What exactly are they going to charge them with? Using their first amendment right to free speech. These were not government employees but rather private citizens who rendered a personal opinion based on their own personal experience. They were wrong and if asked about it they would probably admit it.

If you can prove some kind of collusion between the authors of the paper and the Biden campaign then you have a point.
Defending the indefensible again.

The Democrats have become experts.

I have to ask you. Do you really hate Trump so much that you are willing to believe, and perpetrate any lie that the Democrats spout?
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Old 06-06-2024, 04:35 PM   #5
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What exactly are they going to charge them with? Using their first amendment right to free speech. These were not government employees but rather private citizens who rendered a personal opinion based on their own personal experience. They were wrong and if asked about it they would probably admit it.

If you can prove some kind of collusion between the authors of the paper and the Biden campaign then you have a point.
... WRONG! ... Some of the fifty were on - and still
employed by the Government. ... So THAT is election
interference - as some of them obviously KNEW that
the laptop WAS true and authentic.

... So once again - members of the government bring
a fake story - and no one is held to accounte.

Until Next Year!

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Old 06-06-2024, 04:59 PM   #6
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... WRONG! ... Some of the fifty were on - and still
employed by the Government. ... So THAT is election
interference - as some of them obviously KNEW that
the laptop WAS true and authentic.

... So once again - members of the government bring
a fake story - and no one is held to accounte.

Until Next Year!

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And you never really read the article did you?

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president’s son.

“has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

While the letter’s signatories presented no new evidence, they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work.

“We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement,” the letter reads. But, it continues, “there are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement.”

All opinions and they even stated that they did not know if the emails were fake or legitimate.

Again they can not be prosecuted for expressing their opinions. If that were the case then Donald Trump would have been arrested years ago for his lies.
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Old 06-06-2024, 09:15 PM   #7
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And you never really read the article did you?

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president’s son.

“has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

While the letter’s signatories presented no new evidence, they said their national security experience had made them “deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case” and cited several elements of the story that suggested the Kremlin’s hand at work.

“We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement,” the letter reads. But, it continues, “there are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement.”

All opinions and they even stated that they did not know if the emails were fake or legitimate.

Again they can not be prosecuted for expressing their opinions. If that were the case then Donald Trump would have been arrested years ago for his lies.

every one of those neocon lying assholes knew that the FBI had Biden's laptop in January of 2020 and had verified it as authentic months before these assholes made their "statement".

would you call intentionally lying about Biden's laptop by THE FBI election interference?


it was. there was massive election interference by the press, the FBI and others like the above mentioned "security experts"


FBI suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story

https://www.dailynews.com/2022/12/25...-biden-laptop/


think this didn't sway the election?

note the source ....

Shock Poll: 8 in 10 Think Biden Laptop Cover-Up
Changed Election

Most following the story want the AG to appoint a Special Counsel to
investigate the laptop-related issues


https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting...0720-SD011.pdf


A whopping 79 percent of Americans suggest President Donald Trump
likely would have won reelection if voters had known the truth about
Hunter Bidenʼs laptop—that it was real and not “Russian disinformation,” as
intelligence ocials aligned with Joe Biden falsely led the public to
believe, a new national poll reveals.


The survey of 1,335 adults was conducted earlier this month by New Jersey-
based Technometrica Institute of Policy and Politics. The vast majority of
those following the issue said they believe that the laptop is real, while
only 11 percent still believe it was created by Russia.


The Washington Post and The New York Times recently conrmed that the
laptop and contents found on it are, in fact, authentic, aer initially pooh-
poohing the idea the device belonged to the presidentʼs son.
In October
2020, the New York Post broke the story that Hunter Biden had abandoned
the Apple computer at a Wilmington, Del., repair shop. The newspaper
exposed emails from the hard drive indicating the Biden family may have
participated in illicit business deals in Ukraine, China, and other
countries. Social media censored the story, denying voters critical
information on the eve of the election.


Among those following the topic, almost three-quarters (74 percent)
believe that the FBI and Intelligence Community deliberately misled the
public—and voters—when they claimed the laptop was “disinformation”
and part of a Kremlin plot to hurt Bidenʼs candidacy.
On Oct. 19, 2020, more than 50 former U.S. intelligence ocials, including
CIA Director John Brennan, signed a public letter claiming the material
published by the Post from Hunterʼs hard drive “has all the classic
earmarks of a Russian information operation,” although none of them had
seen it. Joe Biden cited their letter in the presidential debates to deflect
questions about the laptop.



“Terming the laptop ʻdisinformationʼ by the FBI, Intelligence Community,
Congress, and the Biden campaign, along with Big Tech, impacted voters,”
said Technometrica President Raghavan Mayur, whoʼs been recognized as
the most accurate pollster in recent presidential elections. “A signicant
majority—78 percent—believe that access to the correct information could
have been critical to their decision at the polls.


In fact, 47 percent said that knowing before the election that the laptop
contents were real and not “disinformation” would have changed their
voting decision—including more than two-thirds (71 percent) of
Democrats.
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Show me where the FBI called it disinformation. They simply said no comment. The problem is that the republican lie machine screwed the laptop story so bad that it was easy for people to believe it wasn't real. After all the voting machine lies and the trump really won story, and the vaccine conspiracy and any other lie that the right wing media machine pushed during that time it was very easy to believe that the story was bullshit. It's a problem of the orange clown that cried wolf. After so many lies how is anyone supposed to believe anything that cocksucker says.
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Show me where the FBI called it disinformation. They simply said no comment. The problem is that the republican lie machine screwed the laptop story so bad that it was easy for people to believe it wasn't real. After all the voting machine lies and the trump really won story, and the vaccine conspiracy and any other lie that the right wing media machine pushed during that time it was very easy to believe that the story was bullshit. It's a problem of the orange clown that cried wolf. After so many lies how is anyone supposed to believe anything that cocksucker says.

exactly. their "No comment" was the interference. they had it in their possession. they knew it was real. they then pressured social media like twittybird and fuckbook to suppress it.


how exactly did republicans lie about a laptop that turned out to be real and not faked?


the NY Post was right all along.
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exactly. their "No comment" was the interference. they had it in their possession. they knew it was real. they then pressured social media like twittybird and fuckbook to suppress it.


how exactly did republicans lie about a laptop that turned out to be real and not faked?


the NY Post was right all along.
That's a big giant load. Not commenting is so commonplace it's practically fbi procedure. In fact it might be FBI procedure to not comment on any ongoing investigation.

If it was a crime then maybe the republican congressional hearings could you know, Actually refer this as a crime to the DOJ. Unfortunately it isn't. Again. Maybe they could have made their case better if the right wing media machine wasn't so gleeful about naked pictures of a drug addled Hunter Biden.
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That's a big giant load. Not commenting is so commonplace it's practically fbi procedure. In fact it might be FBI procedure to not comment on any ongoing investigation.

If it was a crime then maybe the republican congressional hearings could you know, Actually refer this as a crime to the DOJ. Unfortunately it isn't. Again. Maybe they could have made their case better if the right wing media machine wasn't so gleeful about naked pictures of a drug addled Hunter Biden.

except there was no "ongoing investigation". the FBI sent agents to obtain the laptop from Mac Issac the computer store owner Biden took the laptop to. they weren't investigating anything at this point.


according to Mac Issac it was him that called the FBI when it became clear who's laptop it was. they threatened him over it. little did the FBI know that Issac made a copy of the drive as "insurance" and it's probably the only reason he's still alive.



you can't deny that the FBI a US Government agency actively suppressed any dissemination or discussion on social media and many other news outlets. most of which, not named the NY Post and FOX, did not "obey"


don't bother to pint out Murdoch owns both FOX and the NY Post. what matters is the NY post was right all along.



the bulk of the media being biased liberal gladly helped INTERFERE WITH THE ELECTION
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except there was no "ongoing investigation". the FBI sent agents to obtain the laptop from Mac Issac the computer store owner Biden took the laptop to. they weren't investigating anything at this point.

according to Mac Issac it was him that called the FBI when it became clear who's laptop it was. they threatened him over it. little did the FBI know that Issac made a copy of the drive as "insurance" and it's probably the only reason he's still alive.

you can't deny that the FBI a US Government agency actively suppressed any dissemination or discussion on social media and many other news outlets. most of which, not named the NY Post and FOX, did not "obey"

don't bother to pint out Murdoch owns both FOX and the NY Post. what matters is the NY post was right all along.

the bulk of the media being biased liberal gladly helped INTERFERE WITH THE ELECTION

1: The FBI is supposed to be non partisan and should not interfere in the election process. That’s why so many people were pissed that James Comey publicly confirmed that they were re-opening the Clinton investigation days before the election in 2016. That was election interference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillar...were%20sent%3B

2: Donald Trump asking the Russians to provide emails. Election interference.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c78_story.html

3: The FBI saying “no comment” about compromised material of the son of the sitting president. The opposite of election interference.

https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/j...and-no-comment

And lastly The republican party is the party of the Big Lie. Vaccine denial. The January 6th riot / coup. The settlement of Fox news for slandering Dominion Voting machines for three quarters of a billion dollars and the downfall of their primary newscaster Tucker Carlson. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Matt Gaetz. Lauren Boebert. The biggest liar of them all Donald Trump.

You and others are going to have to get used to the idea that no one except hardcore conservatives are going to believe anything from right wing media at first glance.

The information being leaked from the laptop looked very much like disinformation from someone. Much easier to believe that it was fake. We learned not to believe such craziness from the investigation into the Trump Dossier.

The idea that there is a conspiracy by the fbi to interfere in the election is simply absurd and if you can’t see that then I don’t know what else to say.
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1: The FBI is supposed to be non partisan and should not interfere in the election process. That’s why so many people were pissed that James Comey publicly confirmed that they were re-opening the Clinton investigation days before the election in 2016. That was election interference.


of course they aren't! butt ... they were .. ask yourself why.


jimmy "long shanks" comey lied about leaking false news reports as actual fact and thus allowing these fake allegations to be cited "as fact" by Mueller. and we all know how that turned out.


in actual fact ... Comey had no choice in re-opening the email investigation because the NYPD which Comey can't control, found massive emails on Carlos Danger (aka Antony Weiner) laptop in his unrelated sexting case. they were to and from his soon to be ex wifey who just so happened to Clinton's chief aide and advisor.


comey "claimed" it was to protect Clinton's "victory" from being tainted.


the truth is he couldn't allow the NYPD to release the data making the FBI look like the corrupt partisan hacks they were under comey. and are still to this day.

he declined to press charges in the first place because he was told to by his bosses. Obama and Loretta Lynch not to prosecute Clinton.


or you can accept that the meeting of Lynch and Slick Willie Blythe was really about "Golf and grandkids"

BAHHAAAAHAA

The Comey firing, as retold by the Mueller report


https://apnews.com/united-states-gov...25e62661257ef0


baaahhaaaa


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillar...were%20sent%3B

2: Donald Trump asking the Russians to provide emails. Election interference.


so what? did Russia release them? because they never had them to begin with


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c78_story.html

3: The FBI saying “no comment” about compromised material of the son of the sitting president. The opposite of election interference.

https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/j...and-no-comment


commonwealth magazine you must be kidding .. or desperate which is it?


And lastly The republican party is the party of the Big Lie. Vaccine denial. The January 6th riot / coup. The settlement of Fox news for slandering Dominion Voting machines for three quarters of a billion dollars and the downfall of their primary newscaster Tucker Carlson. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Matt Gaetz. The biggest liar of them all Donald Trump.


in 2016 the DEMOCRATS themselves criticized Dominion
https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/pub...rs-on-security


Ranking Members Klobuchar, Warner, Reed, and Peters Press Election Equipment Manufacturers on Security

can't wait to see you deflect this .....



You and others are going to have to get used to the idea that no one except hardcore conservatives are going to believe anything from right wing media at first glance.


if you say so


The idea that the information being leaked from the laptop looked very much like disinformation from someone. Much easier to believe that it was fake. We learned not to believe such craziness from the investigation into the Trump Dossier.


before or after the FBI suppressed the truth .. that they knew to be TRUE


can't wait for how this is NOT election interference


The idea that there is a conspiracy by the fbi to interfere in the election is simply absurd and if you can’t see that then I don’t know what else to say.

lol i'm about to take you to political school 101


opps i already did


dude drop the whole republican thing.

it's a false narrative by the far left. you seem smarter than that.


i'll just throw thi in at the end ...
Report details Sky Harbor meeting between Clinton and Lynch


https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ils/703771002/
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innocent encounter or a planed meeting to free Hilly from her crimes?


you tell me


.bahahahahaaaaaaaaaa
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I can't wait to hear Hilley Clinton repete her "what does it matter" line again as a whitness for the defense.
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I can't wait to hear Hilley Clinton repete her "what does it matter" line again as a whitness for the defense.
When that Bitch dies, they had darned sure better drive a wooden stake in her heart. She is a Turd that will not flush.

Her campaign paid for that phony “Steel Dossier”. Why isn’t that “election interference”?
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