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01-25-2024, 06:52 AM
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Trump declares war
https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/st...32674701463838
Our nation is in danger. Sounds like the groundwork for a dictatorship. What happened to checks and balances?
And what the fuck, he wants to protect Christians? Separation of the church and state, bro. You can't legally protect Christians any more than you can protect Muslims, Jews, or atheists.
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01-25-2024, 10:37 AM
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LOL
Usually I would just ignore threads like this - but here is what is on the link he posted. As you will see, his rhetoric in the original post has nothing to do with the common sense steps to help restore government to the people's elected officials listed in the link
BREAKING: Trump’s plan to dismantle the ‘Deep State':
1. Immediately reissue 2020 executive order restoring the president’s authority to remove rogue bureaucrats and wield that power “very aggressively."
2. Clean out all the corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus.
3. Totally reform FISA courts.
4. Establish a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” to declassify and publish all documents on the deep state’s spying, censorship, and corruption.
5. Launch a major crackdown on government leakers who collude with “fake news to deliberately weave false narratives and subvert our government and democracy.”
6. Make every inspector general’s office independent and physically separated from the departments they oversee.
7. Ask Congress to establish an independent auditing system to continually monitor our intelligence agencies.
8. Continue the effort launched by the Trump administration to move parts of the federal bureaucracy to new locations outside the “Washington Swamp.”
9. Work to ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs at the companies they deal with and regulate
10. Push a constitutional amendment to appose term limits on members of Congress.
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01-25-2024, 10:44 AM
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It's clear with trumpfs actions and speeches he's planning on installing himself as dictator. He wants to abolish any threats to him.
And magas falling for this conman hook line and sinker.
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01-25-2024, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
It's clear with trumpfs actions and speeches he's planning on installing himself as dictator. He wants to abolish any threats to him.
And magas falling for this conman hook line and sinker.
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The fact that he refuses to deny that he will be a "dictator on day one" is all the red flag anybody with half a fucking brain should ever need. He's clearly crossed the Rubicon and his hateful, retarded voters are happy to swim the Lake of Fire to meet him on the other side. They hate everything about America.
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01-25-2024, 01:01 PM
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Trump declarations are a joke. Remember he's declared almost everything anti-trump is a witch hunt- that has caught lots and lots of witches. He's going to have a LONG HARD road for the next 10 yrs.... regardless of his location or title.
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01-25-2024, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
1. Immediately reissue 2020 executive order restoring the president’s authority to remove rogue bureaucrats and wield that power “very aggressively."
Make it illegal to be anti-trump
2. Clean out all the corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus.
Make it illegal to be anti-trump
3. Totally reform FISA courts.
Reform how? Why do they need reformed? Trump doesn't know
4. Establish a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” to declassify and publish all documents on the deep state’s spying, censorship, and corruption.
Make the federal government share propaganda
5. Launch a major crackdown on government leakers who collude with “fake news to deliberately weave false narratives and subvert our government and democracy.”
Go after the have-not anti-trumps
6. Make every inspector general’s office independent and physically separated from the departments they oversee.
You got me here, I don't see reason to oppose this
7. Ask Congress to establish an independent auditing system to continually monitor our intelligence agencies.
...for anti-trumps. Why do we need the FBI monitoring people more than they already do? Oh, that's right, to weed out the opposition.
8. Continue the effort launched by the Trump administration to move parts of the federal bureaucracy to new locations outside the “Washington Swamp.”
Read as: privatize the federal government of a shithole nation
9. Work to ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs at the companies they deal with and regulate
Would the POTUS not also fall under the owner/leader of several (failed) corporations too? Rules for thee, not for me!
10. Push a constitutional amendment to appose term limits on members of Congress.
...so POTUS Trump can remain in office forever
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LOL indeed. MAGAs needs to learn how to read between the lines.
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
And magas falling for this conman hook line and sinker.
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01-25-2024, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
8. Continue the effort launched by the Trump administration to move parts of the federal bureaucracy to new locations outside the “Washington Swamp.”
Read as: privatize the federal government of a shithole nation
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Hmmm... did you just refer to the US as a "shithole nation"?
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01-25-2024, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Hmmm... did you just refer to the US as a "shithole nation"?
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Yea, if countries that Trump refers to as shithole countries are the ones ruled by dictators and what have you, then America will truly become a shithole country!
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01-25-2024, 02:58 PM
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Except you didn't qualify it that way. You think we already are a "shithole nation".
Perhaps you would be happier living abroad, if you can find a non-shithole nation that will accept you.
Good luck!
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01-25-2024, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Except you didn't qualify it that way. You think we already are a "shithole nation".
Perhaps you would be happier living abroad, if you can find a non-shithole nation that will accept you.
Good luck!
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Without a doubt, I will be happier in another country, one that already snubbed out their own dictatorship in the past century, if America turns into Trump's dictatorship!
But this is Trump declaring war on our democracy, not ECCIE members relocating overseas to more democratic nations :-)
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01-25-2024, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
Yea, if countries that Trump refers to as shithole countries are the ones ruled by dictators and what have you, then America will truly become a shithole country!
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Exactly. Only a shithole country would even allow this guy to run for POTUS in 2024. He's a proven criminal, rapist, insurrectionist fraud. In any decent country, this guy would have been jailed a long time ago.
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01-25-2024, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
Exactly. Only a shithole country would even allow this guy to run for POTUS in 2024... In any decent country, this guy would have been jailed a long time ago.
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Hmmm... so you want all political candidates to be pre-screened & pre-approved before they are allowed to run for office?
Got it! I know just where you would feel more at home, tommy:
https://www.rferl.org/a/explainer-ir.../24992823.html
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01-25-2024, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
But this is Trump declaring war on our democracy...
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Have you always been so prone to hyperbole?
Read the list again. Where in the US Constitution does it say the federal bureaucracy is immune from being shaken up and downsized by an incoming Chief Executive?
And how is "draining the swamp" tantamount to "declaring war on our democracy"?
It seems to me the EXACT OPPOSITE is true.
A healthy, well-functioning democracy requires a federal bureaucracy that is efficient, responsive, and non-partisan.
In fact, that should be the shared goal of ALL American taxpayers and voters.
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01-25-2024, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
LOL indeed. MAGAs needs to learn how to read between the lines.
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So you make up your own meaning for each item. How typical of the left
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Originally Posted by berryberry View Post
1. Immediately reissue 2020 executive order restoring the president’s authority to remove rogue bureaucrats and wield that power “very aggressively."
Make it illegal to be anti-trump
That is NOT what it says
2. Clean out all the corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus.
Make it illegal to be anti-trump
That is NOT what it says
3. Totally reform FISA courts.
Reform how? Why do they need reformed? Trump doesn't know
Obviously you haven't paid attention to the FISA court abuses over the number of years. Are you saying no reform is needed?
4. Establish a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” to declassify and publish all documents on the deep state’s spying, censorship, and corruption.
Make the federal government share propaganda
You are confused - pushing propaganda is what Senile Biden and the Democrats have been caught red handed doing. Why are you afraid to see government be more transparent and publish actual government documents that already exist for the public to see? or do you support deleting them like the sham leftist J6 committee did?
5. Launch a major crackdown on government leakers who collude with “fake news to deliberately weave false narratives and subvert our government and democracy.”
Go after the have-not anti-trumps
So you support the leakers who leak government info, including classified info, to the media? Why is that? Is it because they are corrupt leftists leaking this information to the leftist media?
6. Make every inspector general’s office independent and physically separated from the departments they oversee.
You got me here, I don't see reason to oppose this
Shocking that you agree
7. Ask Congress to establish an independent auditing system to continually monitor our intelligence agencies.
...for anti-trumps. Why do we need the FBI monitoring people more than they already do? Oh, that's right, to weed out the opposition.
That is NOT what it says. Do you understand what independent auditing means? It is not the FBI and other agencies monitoring itself
8. Continue the effort launched by the Trump administration to move parts of the federal bureaucracy to new locations outside the “Washington Swamp.”
Read as: privatize the federal government of a shithole nation
Really - you view the USA as a shithole nation?
Why am I not surprised. And what is wrong with moving federal jobs outside of the DC hellhole? Are other parts of the country not worthy of housing those jobs?
9. Work to ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs at the companies they deal with and regulate
Would the POTUS not also fall under the owner/leader of several (failed) corporations too? Rules for thee, not for me!
So you oppose this rule. Why am I not surprised?
10. Push a constitutional amendment to appose term limits on members of Congress.
...so POTUS Trump can remain in office forever
That is NOT what it says. So why do you oppose term limits?
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01-25-2024, 04:03 PM
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Hmmm... did you just refer to the US as a "shithole nation"?
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Why are you not surprised
We have seen over and over how leftists hate America
The premise of this whole thread is a joke. No one declared war. Putting policy ideas forward is what candidate do in a campaign. The list of 10 items contain some excellent ideas that need done.
Proposing that the government be reformed, streamlined, non-partisan and improved is healthy for our country.
Who wants to keep wasting all the money we waste and going further into debt on the bloated federal bureaucracy?
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