LGTBQ+ Donations Soar Thanks to Nazis

[Dreamgurrl]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Here ya go:



You're welcome. Now carry on.

I watch a lot of porn. They are amazing lovers.

[Dreamgurrl]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Sorry to burst your bubble but babies come out of the womb with a set of chromosomes. Either two x chromosomes or an x and a y. That's not taught. It's biology.

Chromosomes determine the sex. Gender is determined by society.

[Jacuzzme]

That’s what Money said, right before falsifying data and his test patients offing themselves.

[Big Daddy Joe]

You do realize who your talking to here?
Listening is not a strong suit
in that crowd.
And the things that saddens you delights them!

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Your mistake is that you folks aren't listening and you fill the gaps left by silence with things that reinforce that you were right, in your own mind.

What value comes from feeding an obvious troll question? This isn't a formal debate. There's no point to win by setting up ad hominem attacks.

I'm not here to answer what you folks want, when you want it, in the way you want it in order to validate your world view. You and bam clearly already formed an opinion about the answer before you ever ask a question. So why bother? This type of baiting and troll tactics is obvious and not in furtherance of informed discussion.

I'm content to see $45k more funding for that group in the face of a Nazi protest. Sad to see others perpetuate the same type of otherization that the Nazis employ. Sad to see folks come out and expose their biases when Nazis were protesting and calling for blood. Sad to see more bullying behaviors. Folks confirming LGTBQ+ prejudice. Exposing themselves as not being able to have a nuanced discussion regarding biology vs sociology vs psychology by trying to focus entirely on biology steeped pariarchical mores (using biology as the driver while holding the behaviors as a fixed, faulty constant instead of variable or even potentially natural. Making them crazy, abhorrent and other with zero room for real discussion). Which is why this is a culture war and not a biology discussion you want it to be. You can only have this discussion on one-level because you need the others to remain fixed constants to otherize.

Focus on people as people. Respect their humanity first. Listen instead of just attacking. Assuming that the folks who oppose your world view are crazy is indefensible. As is assuming that I don't have answers for asinine questions. Self-restraint with baited questions and measured responses to challenging issues aren't the hallmark of the weak-minded or weak-willed.

Don't focus on trying to "win" the point that you forget to have a real conversation.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Joe

You do realize who your talking to here?
Listening is not a strong suit
in that crowd.
And the things that saddens you delights them!

I do. Listening is not their forte. And some of what saddens me delights them, but not all.

They're still people, too. And certainly not Nazi's, Nazi supporters or Nazi adjacent.

When we otherize to a point where we're only having disucssions at the extremes, we're not being respectful of their humanity.

They're not freaks. Psychos. Losers. They're not evil. They're people. They live. Love. Seek the acceptance of others. They bleed. Suffer. Grieve. They succeed and fail. They have dreams that are never achieved. They're crushed by failures and loss. They're seeking a different path towards the same end. They love the country, but in their own way. They have families. Jobs. Friends. Fears. Passions. Biases. Prejudices. Faiths.

And they have freedoms. As well as responsibilities.

Even shitposting stems from a psychological needs with certain biological roots. But you need to look holistically to see how the dots connect.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

They're not freaks. Psychos. Losers. They're not evil. They're people. They live. Love. Seek the acceptance of others. They bleed. Suffer. Grieve. They succeed and fail. They have dreams that are never achieved. They're crushed by failures and loss. They're seeking a different path towards the same end. They love the country, but in their own way. They have families. Jobs. Friends. Fears. Passions. Biases. Prejudices. Faiths.

This is about “trans” people? If so, I wholeheartedly agree, but nobody wants to help them. Nobody. The anti-trans sect wants the 40% who don’t kill themselves to go ahead and do it. The pro-trans crowd wants to feed their psychosis, like giving someone with lung cancer a carton of Marlboros. It’s sad, and the opposite of what you should expect from a compassionate society.

[HDGristle]

The fact that you see some value in the words and that they apply in that context too mean you're on the cusp of seeing beyond an arbitrary binary.

[Dreamgurrl]

Wow. Talk about lack of reading comprehension.

He’s referring to listening to all sides of the argument rather than box anyone in to some specific category.

He’s actually supporting berry and your and others views in this post by saying that all sides have lived experiences that contribute to their opinions.

Rather than just taking a hard stance on either side.

You know, nuances and all.

[Salty Again]

... Blimey!... It's gettin' that I'm gonna need one o' those
P-H-D things from university just so I can converse with all
the intle... intello... intalect... uh... smart people here.

#### Salty

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Your mistake is that you folks aren't listening and you fill the gaps left by silence with things that reinforce that you were right, in your own mind.

What value comes from feeding an obvious troll question? This isn't a formal debate. There's no point to win by setting up ad hominem attacks.

I'm not here to answer what you folks want, when you want it, in the way you want it in order to validate your world view. You and bam clearly already formed an opinion about the answer before you ever ask a question. So why bother? This type of baiting and troll tactics is obvious and not in furtherance of informed discussion.

I'm content to see $45k more funding for that group in the face of a Nazi protest. Sad to see others perpetuate the same type of otherization that the Nazis employ. Sad to see folks come out and expose their biases when Nazis were protesting and calling for blood. Sad to see more bullying behaviors. Folks confirming LGTBQ+ prejudice. Exposing themselves as not being able to have a nuanced discussion regarding biology vs sociology vs psychology by trying to focus entirely on biology steeped pariarchical mores (using biology as the driver while holding the behaviors as a fixed, faulty constant instead of variable or even potentially natural. Making them crazy, abhorrent and other with zero room for real discussion). Which is why this is a culture war and not a biology discussion you want it to be. You can only have this discussion on one-level because you need the others to remain fixed constants to otherize.

Focus on people as people. Respect their humanity first. Listen instead of just attacking. Assuming that the folks who oppose your world view are crazy is indefensible. As is assuming that I don't have answers for asinine questions. Self-restraint with baited questions and measured responses to challenging issues aren't the hallmark of the weak-minded or weak-willed.

Don't focus on trying to "win" the point that you forget to have a real conversation.

Seems Bam's question to you really hit home and struck a nerve. That was a long ass way of saying you are afraid to answer the question.

And my statement referred to more than this thread - where one of your leftist cohorts makes multiple false statements, are called out and presented with the facts, and rather owning up to their mistake, tuck tail and run and hide from the thread. People in real conversations don't do that

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by lustylad

No. A rogue scientist who departs from scientific methods on an issue only discredits him/herself, not the entire scientific community. That's NOT an excuse for you to pick and choose when you want to follow actual science - and when you want to ignore it!

Lol. The entire scientific community was on the same page with regards to the pandemic. The outliers were the few who tried to dispute it.

But nevermind, I see the ignorance (and bliss) I'm up against. Thanks for proving my point, though. You only believe scientists when you "feel" like they're telling the truth.

[HDGristle]

Very afraid berry. For you guys. For me, minor apprehension mixed with disappointment with the rhetorical style and that you can only see fear.

If I answer, that's giving you an inch. And then once you've taken in that inch you'll push back to try to get another inch from me as the conversation continues to open and expand.

Not sure you're ready for that. Neither of you have stretched properly.

[berryberry]

Keep on deflecting Gristle

[HDGristle]

No deflection. Just not giving you what desperately want.

It's still sad that so many have had the opportunity to challenge the Nazis on this but instead choose to go after LGBTQ+ when there's actual Nazis to shit on.

They're getting a complete pass and that's crazy to think about.

[berryberry]

Nah, it's deflecting. But that's ok, we are all used to it from you

And don't be sad your thread didn't go the way you wanted it to. Seems there were multiple points to be made and others made them