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Old 04-29-2023, 12:28 AM   #16
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Why does it have to be one day? Can you not have secure elections while permitting as many able bodied folks thst are eligible to vote, to vote?

Will you allow for absentee ballots for any reasons?

France does it. why can't we?


Voting in France: Paper ballots, in person, hand-counted

https://apnews.com/article/covid-hea...482c3cdb0eb6aa


PARIS (AP) — French voters in Sunday’s presidential election will use the same system that’s been used for generations: paper ballots that are cast in person and counted by hand. Despite periodic calls for more flexibility or modernization, France doesn’t do mail-in voting, early voting or use voting machines en masse like the United States.


President Emmanuel Macron is the front-runner, though he is facing a tough challenge from far-right leader Marine Le Pen and voter uncertainty: An unprecedented proportion of people told pollsters in recent days that they were unsure who they would vote for or whether they would vote at all.


PAPER BALLOTS


Voters must be at least 18 years old. About 48.7 million French are registered on the electoral rolls of the place where they live.


Voters make their choices in a booth, with the curtains closed, then place their ballot in an envelope that is then put into a transparent ballot box. They must show photo identification and sign a document, next to their name, to complete the process.


don't make the claim that the US has too many voters to do this. false narrative.
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Old 04-29-2023, 03:31 AM   #17
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The MAGA-Nazis are out to destroy America Soley, because overprivileged pampered mentally deficient, traitor could not accept that he lost a fair election.
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Old 04-29-2023, 10:51 AM   #18
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The MAGA-Nazis are out to destroy America Soley, because overprivileged pampered mentally deficient, traitor could not accept that he lost a fair election.
Amen. Also funny how they LOVE to point out that America "is not a democracy", but then demand election integrity. Lol. So which is it? They can't have it both ways.
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Old 04-29-2023, 10:56 AM   #19
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Multiple days of voting requires storage of ballots and/or results by it’s nature. If a person feels it’s their duty as a citizen to vote, they can certainly carve out an hour of their time, with a years notice, on a federal holiday. If they know they’ll be out of town or otherwise indisposed, that’s what the absentee application is for.
For many people in large cities, and tiny rural areas, it's way more than an "hour of their time". Especially when Republican governors keep eliminating polling locations (all part of the plan when they know they need low voter turnout to win a lot of the time).

I agree it should be a federal holiday, though. Like it is for most of the civilized countries on earth.
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Old 04-29-2023, 10:57 AM   #20
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Why does it have to be one day?

I'll tell you why - because once you start loosening the rules, the next thing you know the fucking Democrats will drive a truck through them! Years ago I didn't have a problem with opening the polls on, say, the weekend prior to Election Day so voters could cast ballots on their days off. Now flash forward to today and what do you see? States opening the polls up 20-40 days early! What the fuck! Who said THAT was a good idea? How many votes were already cast for Fetterman when he made a total ass out of himself in his debate with Mehmet Oz? During the debate Google reported a surge in searches asking whether Pennsylvania lets you change your early vote if you change your mind!

You see Mr. Gristle, this is why we can't have good things. Democrats take every good idea, if implemented in proper moderation, and turn it into a fucking disaster by pushing it to the extreme. They turn medical marijuana into a drug epidemic. They turn more liberal immigration laws into a flood of 3 million illegals a year entering this country and making fraudulent asylum claims. They turn modest criminal justice reform into no bail and defund the police. They turn homeless shelters into sprawling, lawless encampments despoiling our parks, sidewalks and urban centers. They turn food stamps for the needy into a permanent free food giveaway for everyone. And they turn Election Day into Election Month - deeply distorting the meaningfulness and integrity of our vote.

In short, Democrats excel at taking every good idea ever put forward in our democracy... and DESTROYING it by pushing it way beyond its original reasonable intent.

Get it now, Mr. Gristle?
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:46 AM   #21
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France does it. why can't we?


Voting in France: Paper ballots, in person, hand-counted

https://apnews.com/article/covid-hea...482c3cdb0eb6aa

Exactly. There is no rational reason why this could not be done in the US - one day, in person voting, voter ID required, paper ballots.

The only reason it won't happen is that Democrats and their brain dead moronic voters want to cheat.

Why do the ill informed leftists support cheating? Why are they so against election integrity? Simple, they know it is the only way they can win because rational people know their agenda is much too radical
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:49 AM   #22
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I'll tell you why - because once you start loosening the rules, the next thing you know the fucking Democrats will drive a truck through them! Years ago I didn't have a problem with opening the polls on, say, the weekend prior to Election Day so voters could cast ballots on their days off. Now flash forward to today and what do you see? States opening the polls up 20-40 days early! What the fuck! Who said THAT was a good idea? How many votes were already cast for Fetterman when he made a total ass out of himself in his debate with Mehmet Oz? During the debate Google reported a surge in searches asking whether Pennsylvania lets you change your early vote if you change your mind!

You see Mr. Gristle, this is why we can't have good things. Democrats take every good idea, if implemented in proper moderation, and turn it into a fucking disaster by pushing it to the extreme. They turn medical marijuana into a drug epidemic. They turn more liberal immigration laws into a flood of 3 million illegals a year entering this country and making fraudulent asylum claims. They turn modest criminal justice reform into no bail and defund the police. They turn homeless shelters into sprawling, lawless encampments despoiling our parks, sidewalks and urban centers. They turn food stamps for the needy into a permanent free food giveaway for everyone. And they turn Election Day into Election Month - deeply distorting the meaningfulness and integrity of our vote.

In short, Democrats excel at taking every good idea ever put forward in our democracy... and DESTROYING it by pushing it way beyond its original reasonable intent.

Get it now, Mr. Gristle?
Well said
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:51 AM   #23
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The North Carolina Supreme Court is allowing the legislature to require ID to vote and the entire democrat party is losing their shit over it.

They’re cheating. We all know they’re cheating. They know they’re cheating. And outbursts like this just confirm it.
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Old 04-29-2023, 12:48 PM   #24
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Amen. Also funny how they LOVE to point out that America "is not a democracy", but then demand election integrity. Lol. So which is it? They can't have it both ways.

probably the stupidist illogical post Ive ever seen......

so you cant have election integrity unless you are a democratic country not a constitutional republic?

someone doesnt even know left from right or up from down
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Old 04-29-2023, 10:54 PM   #25
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I'll tell you why - because once you start loosening the rules, the next thing you know the fucking Democrats will drive a truck through them! Years ago I didn't have a problem with opening the polls on, say, the weekend prior to Election Day so voters could cast ballots on their days off. Now flash forward to today and what do you see? States opening the polls up 20-40 days early! What the fuck! Who said THAT was a good idea? How many votes were already cast for Fetterman when he made a total ass out of himself in his debate with Mehmet Oz? During the debate Google reported a surge in searches asking whether Pennsylvania lets you change your early vote if you change your mind!

You see Mr. Gristle, this is why we can't have good things. Democrats take every good idea, if implemented in proper moderation, and turn it into a fucking disaster by pushing it to the extreme. They turn medical marijuana into a drug epidemic. They turn more liberal immigration laws into a flood of 3 million illegals a year entering this country and making fraudulent asylum claims. They turn modest criminal justice reform into no bail and defund the police. They turn homeless shelters into sprawling, lawless encampments despoiling our parks, sidewalks and urban centers. They turn food stamps for the needy into a permanent free food giveaway for everyone. And they turn Election Day into Election Month - deeply distorting the meaningfulness and integrity of our vote.

In short, Democrats excel at taking every good idea ever put forward in our democracy... and DESTROYING it by pushing it way beyond its original reasonable intent.

Get it now, Mr. Gristle?
No. That's just fearmongering and scapegoating.

You can have rules and flexibility without going to the extremes. J presented an issue that speaks to security and cost without pandering with partisan red meat.
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Old 05-01-2023, 12:44 AM   #26
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You can have rules and flexibility without going to the extremes.
Nothing extreme about one day, in person voting using paper ballots and voter ID. Making election day a national holiday. And only allowing absentee ballots with proof of being out of the area and proof of real ID verification

Or are you afraid of actual election integrity?
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Old 05-01-2023, 05:35 AM   #27
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That's not what I was commenting on regarding extremes, so you can save the contrived binaries for someone who wants to play your games.
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The hatred here for Americans is outstanding.
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Old 05-01-2023, 06:42 AM   #29
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Nothing extreme about one day, in person voting using paper ballots and voter ID. Making election day a national holiday. And only allowing absentee ballots with proof of being out of the area and proof of real ID verification

Or are you afraid of actual election integrity?
Without any proof, you want to put more and more restrictions on people being able to vote. Extremist maga bullshit as usual. You can't win big elections so you cry, whine, and bitch about voter fraud and election integrity when there is zero integrity on the part on the losing candidates that continue to lie that they won elections.

You want to stop democracy and election integrity by putting on as many voting restrictions as possible. It shows how afraid you are of free and fair elections. It's Un-American and disgraceful.
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Old 05-01-2023, 11:14 AM   #30
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That's not what I was commenting on regarding extremes, so you can save the contrived binaries for someone who wants to play your games.
Supporting actual election integrity is no game.

So what are you afraid of? Are you afraid of actual election integrity or do you support it?
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