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Old 12-08-2022, 06:33 PM   #16
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My gram watched Hee Haw, I spent alot of time with her, and watched it, I agree, Roy Clark was good, I think Hendrix was one of the best, even though I am supposed to be a racist, I'll put up Robin Trower as one of my other favorites.

I am also a fan of bass players, can't name a name, but the bassist in Nilsons Jump into the fire was great.
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Old 12-09-2022, 01:09 AM   #17
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we all have had this discussion thru the years

who is the greatest guitar player? jimmy hendrick? eddie van halen? slash?

you might be surprised who both jimmy and eddie said was...

roy clark...... probably a name most younger guys never heard of

he was a country singer and player, probably best remembered by the tv show hee haw

take the time to watch this clip from another old show, the odd couple

this guy played like noone I have ever seen and he was just as good on the banjo and fiddle

his hand speed is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_e93DIU4Y

i'm well aware of Roy Clark's rep with "rock" guitar players. he was vastly underrated because he mostly played country. in the clip you posted he's playing 6 string Spanish guitar. Andrés Segovia would certainly approve but there are 50 other classical virtuosos who could play that just as well.


and you got the wrong jimmy .. the greatest guitar player of all time is James Patrick Page, who inspired a young Eddie Van Halen to take Jimmy's fret picking to what became his "hammer on" technique which Page was quite complementary of.


Eddie claimed Jimmy was "Sloppy" when playing live.

http://rockandrollgarage.com/when-ed...-playing-live/


problem is ... so was Eddie and even worse. having seen both .. yes BOTH in their prime they both were sloppy at times. why? Jimmy had a "H" problem that did affect his playing live. Eddie was a drunk. the last time i saw VH was 1985 and never .. ever .. would even consider seeing them again. having seen VH in 1978 when they were smoking it .. then to watch Diamond Dave lose it on Eddie for being so drunk he was literally falling down on stage .. Eddie ain't got shit to say about Jimmy being sloppy.


Eddie being drunk all the time is one of the reasons Dave left the band. and the musical direction which thanks in part to the Red Rocker Sammy Hagar Eddie was vindicated on that .. but both Diamond Dave and Sammy found out the hard why it was really the Van Halen brother's band.


as an aside .. another guitar great .. no so much in my opinion but is always in the discussion like Larry Bird and Mikey Jordan .. Eric "Slow Hand" Clapton, had the same "H" problem as Jimmy. it's WHY they called him "slow hand".


so let's go to the tale of the tape .. or in this case the video.

first .. Eddie when he's on .. best VH song EVER. one of the best opening riffs ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtwBFz6lfrY


now Mr Page live playing a layered song, meaning in the studio as Eddie pointed out, was an overdubbed multi layer track. here he is playing it live and many "experts" say is next to impossible to do. yet he does. unfortunately this was Knebworth and the last ever live recorded show of Led Zeppelin before John Henry Bonham died.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWOuzYvksRw


compare to the studio version where Page could lay down multiple guitar tracks ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4KLOm7pO0


RIP John Henry Bonham





now a little something from "slowhand" Clapton who i consider overrated .. yes he's overrated. but he is still pretty damn good .. one hell of a song ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ond4Wp9nPhM


now the other Jimmy .. er Jimi ... but first the original ..


by a no talent punk named Robert Allen Zimmerman. you may know him as Bob Dylan ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT7Hj-ea0VE


remember this song was originally a FOLK song ...


now let's see what Mr Hendrix does with it ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLV4_xaYynY


it should be noted that Jimi also had a second guitar player doing an acoustic riff in the studio .. it's hard to hear but it's there ..


none other that the legendary Eddie Kramer .. who worked extensively with .. EVERYONE in rock, Led Zep, Jimi, EVERYONE, breaks it down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6m019pawms


the acoustic guitar on "All Along the Watchtower" ... none other than the very accomplished in his own right Dave Mason!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Mason


now just for fun ..


a few interesting things about rock songs ...

the original "When the levee breaks"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5VmVvsjyKw


now LZ's cover ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwiTs60VoTM


now a redo with John Paul Jones and an all star cast for "Playing for Change"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0-WXUFY2k


now here's another underrated guitar player .. and an egotistic pompous asshole .. pete townshend



he hates Led Zeppelin's music .. here is why


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTJywZoG_bw


bahahhaaa ego in rock. who knew???


remember .. all these bands in the 60's and 70's heyday .. knew each other well. the Beatles, the Stones, the WHO, Clapton, Hendrix, they all partied together.



here's George Harrison in late 1969 hearing about some upstart band .. Led Zeppelin.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1zQDMizcKw




Townshend thought the Who should succeed the Beatles as the biggest rock act after they quit. the Stones .. Mick and Keith might have also had something to say about that .. but Led Zeppelin became the biggest band of the 70's.



here is the underrated Pete Townshend doing what he really does best .. not play guitar .. write songs only Roger Daltrey can sing..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMrImMedYRo
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Jimmy Page and believe or not….Prince. YouTube his “my guitar gently weeps”. It’s incredible.
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:43 PM   #19
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Stylistically I like all sorts of players.

Some unique ones:
Dick Dale- saw him at the REX back in 2007. Was a huge California coast influence.

Tom Sholz from the 80s band Boston. He influenced a lot of how electric guitar boxes and mods work even today.

Tommy Emanuel or Mark Knopler (Dire straights)for finger style.

Tom Morello for some distinct metal and rock input

Worthy mentions
Carlos Santana
Eddie Van Halen
Clapton
John Mayer
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Old 12-10-2022, 09:22 AM   #20
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Jimmy Page and believe or not….Prince. YouTube his “my guitar gently weeps”. It’s incredible.
I didn't realize what a phenomenal guitar player Prince was until after his passing. all the glam and flash had me mostly ignore his music, but he was a great guitar player.

EVH will forever be tops in my heart.
Yngwie plays fast. Does that make him good? I question it. I get the sentiment, but that doesn't make him good IMO.
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