Time Wasters

[RK2]

Since I was the only one that said "Red Flag" you must have been replying to me. As to your question of why that would be a "Red Flag" I was speaking of being a "Red Flag" for the ride share driver. Follow me on this.....Profile on Uber says RK2 a male is to be picked up at location A. Driver arrives at A only to find Shelia wanting the ride. See my point? Driver says hold up a minute, somethings not right. So...my original point is/was if a provider needs funds for uber/lyft/taxi then fine, so be it. I dont mind paying, but including it into the cash donation. If you tell me you need transportation then fine, let me know how much on top of the donation and I will have it. Sound cool?

[Pooyie!]

First of all, thanks Miss K for the thought-provoking post. Providers starting or contributing to discussions is good even when we disagree.

Setting up and following through with appointments is very often problematic for both parties. We have grown to understand that Providers are usually going to back away at any point when anything happens to make them feel uneasy ... you know, better safe than sorry. We just hope we can find out what we did or said that was wrong so we can learn, but, again understandably, the lady often ghosts us to avoid confrontation and escalation. The one time that my "feelings were hurt" (lol) was when one Provider cancelled twice in one week with no hint of why, after I had driven three hours.

We can assume that your potential client backed out because you asked for him to pay your Uber. It would have been nice for him to explain what the issue was. I'm just guessing here that he didn't have an Uber account, or panicked when he thought the charge would stick out like a sore thumb on his credit card statement.

I hate being surprised during the process of setting up an appointment, because I very much don't want to do what this gentleman did. For instance, if I am looking for an appointment duration not specifically on her website or ad, I'll avoid her rather than ask for a rate that I might need to decline. Or, if I don't know where her incall is and I can't risk having my vehicle broken into and having to explain why I was in that area. I love to see websites and I read them thoroughly to pick up on any preference that I'll have a problem with. I'm very concerned that several well-established ladies have recently taken down their websites - likely because few clients read them ... but I do. And I realize that even the best websites can't address every client concern.

[1blackman1]

From my experience there are a truly limited number of women on this site that are professional about their business. We applaud those and appreciate their timeliness and communication.

Now, let’s be real, the vast overwhelming majority of girls are not professional with their business at all. It’s not unusual to have to text and call multiple times to schedule with girls. Then even if you schedule the overwhelming majority are late, bail at the last minute, fail to respond around the time to confirm. sometimes it’s even worse that they respond after you’ve showed up and waited some time to provide room number or some other important detail and after you’ve left they contact complaining that you’ve left. The stories go on and on.

We all appreciate the women that are reliable and you can set a time and actually be there on time. Receive a quality service and leave. That’s the way this should work. Sadly, there are so many women that fit into the above category that the behavior isn’t even surprising and to some extent for someone that we’ve not seen before we expect that behavior.

It’s all sad really.

[MissK70116]

Hmmmm.... I'm pretty good at letting clients know I'm running behind. So I'm going to assume you showed up early or you got my text about running behind and chose to stand in the blazing hot sun. If you drove, why didn't you sit in your AC car? Doesn't really make much sense to me. But hey you do you.

[MissK70116]

The issue with uber... Some of you have stated that uber drivers don't like when the person they pick up isn't who caked for the car. You can change that on the app. Also when given the name of the driver, you see able to message the driver and can explain to them that you're calling the ride for a friend. They do appreciate that. And it's equally as uncomfortable when doing off because of I've never been there before, I can't help them find the house. And I look. Silly as well. But I've been sent to places where there is NO ONE there. I was even sent to a woman's house. That was really not fun. Assuming the woman was some guys gf or wife, I dunno.
I've been sent to hotels and again Noone there. So if a client pays for an uber, then that to me says he's legit because no man who is playing a game will spend any of his money.
The amount of scammers and thrives out there posing as escorts is disgusting and makes it that much harder for both parties.
But when asking name age race becomes too much for the man to give, then he's up to no good period.
There are men asking for verification photos which I can't even provide anymore. Because scammers want those original pics to use on fake accounts. The ones that if reverse image searched will come up with nothing.
I do my absolute best to provide the best experience possible. I also know the value of word of mouth and I negative talk is not good for business.
Setting an appt with me has come down to having to rely on my intuition as to whether or not I see you. Not the safest way to get agreed.
Assuming that all first time caskets are frauds is about as productive as assuming all providers are flakey and going to scam you out of money.
So in my perfect world this is what I would love to have happen.
Contact me when you are ready to schedule an appt with a 2 Hr notice.
Don't ask me dirty details of what's included in a gfe. I'll let you know what's not then assume the rest is good to go.
Don't lie about your age.
Don't lie period. There's no reason.
If I'm running behind I let you know. If you are, please do the same.
If you need to cancel. Let me know. Otherwise I make note and chances are I wont see you if you contact me again.
If you want more than an hour appt and we've never seen each other then I ask for a deposit because it's proven to be a scam otherwise.
READ REVIEWS. RESEARCH the girl in question. Research me. My reviews are unfortunately the only thing I've got that back the fact that I'm a good provider and that you'll be happy with the experience.
Treat this like you would scheduling a Tee time. You can't play on this course either with out one. I'm not getting a ticket taker because I'm not the DMV.

[marinastone]

I think every provider feels this post, MissK! There are so many timewasters, some may be genuinely paranoid but some are just getting off on talking to us at all. We are running a business & when guys jerk us around, cancel last-minute, or NCNS we lose out on time & money. Often we’ve turned down other appointments or spent money on hotels so we can lose literally hundreds of expected income. It is the nature of the business, but it is disrespectful to act like cancellations are the same for clients.

I don’t get why getting you an Uber is an issue… especially since you asked him to book the Uber himself, not send you money for it. It’s not a matter of whether or not you can pay for it lol many providers expect their outcall transportation to be covered, & it’s the gentlemanly thing to do anyways.

[MissK70116]

Ironic that I'm discussing the Time Waster issue and a hobbyist from this site hits me up for an appt just to ghost. Lmao and I am done. Y'all can stay right where you are. Please don't do me anymore favors by wasting my fucking time.

[gentlemanrogue]

I find it laughable that the women are complaining about time wasters. I have had dates cancel and no show me EVERY DAY this week. I have had SCHEDULED dates and then they ghost. So I'm going to start to double book and whom ever shows up first gets the appointment. I also had an appointment, show up and her roommate or friend said she will be right out. Well then it took a second and I realized she was already in with someone else. He showed up and took my slot.

She got bent out of shape when I left and wanted me to pay for her time because I did not keep my appointment.

[MissK70116]

Originally Posted by gentlemanrogue

I find it laughable that the women are complaining about time wasters. I have had dates cancel and no show me EVERY DAY this week. I have had SCHEDULED dates and then they ghost. So I'm going to start to double book and whom ever shows up first gets the appointment. I also had an appointment, show up and her roommate or friend said she will be right out. Well then it took a second and I realized she was already in with someone else. He showed up and took my slot.

She got bent out of shape when I left and wanted me to pay for her time because I did not keep my appointment.

You have responded to this twice saying how funny you think this is. Now if all the providers are turning you down, then it's most likely because you're an asshole. You certainly do sound like one.
And this isn't your job now is it? This is mine and I take it seriously. I don't run anyone else's show so I don't know how other girls work. But you obviously can't find a regular that can stand you and you do zero research on any girls and you call a dozen hoping one will bite.
So when did you contact me and from how many different burner numbers?
Maybe you should go find a new hobby.

[FatCity]

if i have to be on the hook for a provider's transportation now, is it unheard of to ask you to pick up a pizza along the way?

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by FatCity

if i have to be on the hook for a provider's transportation now, is it unheard of to ask you to pick up a pizza along the way?

I’ve done that recently for last minute items of need. I figure if I’m paying for the Uber anyways she can pick me up some of my favorite snacks and things.

Here’s two questions I have.

1. Since your ordering an uber and this is a luxury lifestyle do you spring for the Uber lux rate? Or get her the most basic car? Safety to me is still important so I’m pushing more toward ordering a lux for a lady who made an impression prior to ever meeting.

2. Let’s say the provider arrives and the session was only “so-so” average or less than stellar. After of course paying her for her time do you guys pay for the Uber back too? Are we obligated to as clients? Ladies is a free Uber ride to and fro considereda tip……or just something expected we will do as clients? The ride back I’m sure most ladies won’t mind paying cause they will be paid safely.

Should we still be a gentleman if the lady was a lazy lay? Maybe send her back in an Uber x. Maybe set the pick up point two blocks away from the outcall so she gotta walk.Lol.

[Kimberly Kisses]

I only do incall which is prepaid monthly because it's literally a business expense, so I don't require travel expenses because I don't do outcalls period.

Having said that, I've actually never heard of a provider asking for can fare upfront, but I certainly get it with all the BS outcalls come with. Parking, extra time, walking through hotel lobby, key card elevators etc.

I just think it's not the guy's responsibility if we OFFER outcall to pay for our transportation, because we could simply insist on incall to avoid those issues.

I'm not taking anyone's side here, I've had my own issues with cancellations even as incall only, but I simply have a rule of anyone who cancels and doesn't at least compensate an extra 100 will not be booked with again, and I block them.

I don't get rude, simply move on.

BR is the absolute worst for Time Wasters and cancelations, so it's no sweat off my brow to block the bulk of them.

Don't need the change that bad to put up with constant BS. I do enough of that at my legit job that actually means something other than a nut.

Maybe start making it a point to advertise that all outcalls come with a 50 dollar deposit or ride call, but good luck at getting even 20 percent of them to do that.


The bulk of men insist on more but want to spend way less, so I don't cater to that mess. In and out, exactly what you pay for, nothing more. I used to be GFE, and these are the main reasons I stopped.

Just not worth it to me, even though I was getting an extra 150 per hour.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Kimberly Kisses

……Parking, extra time, walking through hotel lobby, key card elevators etc……..

I just think it's not the guy's responsibility if we OFFER outcall to pay for our transportation, because we could simply insist on incall to avoid those issues.

I concur.

Im more willing to pay for a ladys valet parking when she arrives because she has arrived and is a for sure thing as she has shown up. The window of time and opportunity I’m waiting for her to arrive to a prepaid situation at an outcall is a bit different. I don’t like waiting. There is less of a visual discreet risk for me cause she doesn’t require valet parking with an Uber request, but more fiscal risk because I have to pay in advance for someone who might not arrive if I didn’t order it. There’s also slight rush for the lady depending on the address of the pickup if it’s a residence in some scenarios.

[myren1900]

I find it odd that there is so much objection to pay a provider for an Uber drive. It is a very small expense in most cases, and it is likely she will show up. If the client is not at the location at least she only wasted her time and did not have an expense as well.
If you book a FMTY with an escort you have to pay for flights, airport transportation and hotel in advance, a significant expense, but clients do it all the time.

[Nikki Tylor]

FMTY is a little different from going to A to B in town imho . However if it’s a ladies policy they should have it listed in their website where there is no misunderstanding as I do in mine .

The taxi and Uber thing doesn’t bug me because I drive my own vehicle which I would think most would have however if you have to pay for your own transportation I think that should be listed on your website so no haggling on the clients part . A website keeps things professional as well. I however never have asked anyone local when I do outcall. I drive or I pay my own way for a driver to take me for safety reasons if I am doing a overnight or dinner date in town . I have never asked for a Uber or taxi for someone to pay think it’s unprofessional unless it’s listed in your website because it does look as if your up selling on the clients behave . I have always been out of my pocket locally. I can only speak for me that’s how I run my business.

I do believe there has been a lot of BS lately in New Orleans however if you Screen well as I do then that typically takes care of those types and If they want to play games I block them from ever having the Nikki Tylor Experience their loss .