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Old 09-23-2022, 02:20 PM   #16
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Ok man. I also was not around during WW1 but I believe it happened. And I wasn’t around during the civil war but I believe it occurred too. I even believe there was an American revolution and I missed it by about 200 years.

Most importantly I have not flown around the entire earth but I’m sure it’s not flat. I also only have NASA to believe there was a moon landing and I believe that as well. I also believe Oswald killed Kennedy and Ruby killed Oswald and I don’t believe it was some complex looney toon plot involving the CIA and the New York or Chicago mafias. And I don’t believe there was multiple shooters or that someone used magnets to swerve the bullets.

Seems all this book learning is for naught. But listening to one guy with doubts about things that are well established should really open our minds.
I wasn't alive during WWI or WWII either and There is no denying they took place or that Concentration Camps existed in Europe. David Cole's research is about if the Germans had an extermination program exclusively to kill a single group of people, the Jews, by use of Gas Chambers. In all his research and his tour of the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland he can't determine if they existed for the sole purpose of extermination. He's not trying to close the book on the Holocaust he's just bringing up some interesting questions based on his own observation and research.
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:26 PM   #17
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What difference does it make if the sole purpose was the elimination of the Jews? Let’s assume they also wanted to kill as many blacks, middle easterners, Russians and Eastern Europeans such as gypsies as possible. But all in all killed millions of Jews and thousands of the other groups. Would that somehow make the Holocaust to have not occurred? Would it make it less an issue?

Do you deny that the Germans killed millions of Jews?
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Old 09-23-2022, 03:27 PM   #18
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That there needs to be more investigation to determine if The Holocaust really happened.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/i...tcry-in-israel

This is about as asinine as Stacy Abrams saying that 6 week old fetal heartbeat
Is manufactured by males to keep women from wanting abortions.
Do you actually believe that a 6 week old embryo has a heart that I'd beating?

Have you done any research? Any at all on this matter?

Next,Maybe the President of Iran can get togethers with the Trump loyalists and figure out 2 things:

1 was there a Holocaust

2 was there an insurrection on January 6th
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My father in-law was 20th Armored Division involved in the liberation of 2 concentration camps in Germany. He said he could never forget the smell of death as they passed railcars full of dead decomposing bodies prior to gettting to Dachau. Wouldn't originally watch Band of Brothers because of the bad memories. Finally when he did watch got up and walked outside and cried in the backyard for awhile when the concentration camp scene came on. A few min later he puked his lunch on the porch and took several days to get his head right. He saw it and lived it. To the naysayers GET A LIFE it happended wether it fits your narrative or not. What a bunch of fools you are
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By the way who gives a crap what the president of Iran says he's probably as senile as Joe and as dumb as The Donald
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What difference does it make if the sole purpose was the elimination of the Jews? Let’s assume they also wanted to kill as many blacks, middle easterners, Russians and Eastern Europeans such as gypsies as possible. But all in all killed millions of Jews and thousands of the other groups. Would that somehow make the Holocaust to have not occurred? Would it make it less an issue?

Do you deny that the Germans killed millions of Jews?
I am not denying anything. I just posted a different point of view from someone who through his own research developed a different perspective.
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Do you actually believe that a 6 week old embryo has a heart that I'd beating?

Have you done any research? Any at all on this matter?

Next,Maybe the President of Iran can get togethers with the Trump loyalists and figure out 2 things:

1 was there a Holocaust

2 was there an insurrection on January 6th
To answer your questions….

Yes, the Holocaust was real

No, there was no “insurrection”. There was a bunch of morons who entered the Capital to well, act like morons.
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My father in-law was 20th Armored Division involved in the liberation of 2 concentration camps in Germany. He said he could never forget the smell of death as they passed railcars full of dead decomposing bodies prior to gettting to Dachau. Wouldn't originally watch Band of Brothers because of the bad memories. Finally when he did watch got up and walked outside and cried in the backyard for awhile when the concentration camp scene came on. A few min later he puked his lunch on the porch and took several days to get his head right. He saw it and lived it. To the naysayers GET A LIFE it happended wether it fits your narrative or not. What a bunch of fools you are
Well no doubt people died in these concentration camps. From malnutrition, disease and over work. The Holocaust is about several hundred people at a time being placed in Gas Chambers where they would succumb to a cyanide gas pellet, then their bodies would be cremated shortly there after. This scenario would take place almost on a daily basis which means they were murdered or executed without just cause.
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Yes, the Holocaust was real

No, there was no “insurrection”. There was a bunch of morons who entered the Capital to well, act like morons.
Anyone trying to nullify the results of a Presidential election by intimidation or force....is part of an insurrection in my book
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You believe in the Holocaust because you have been told to believe it. David Cole grew up believing it too, until he decided to do his own research and actually toured the camps where the Holocaust took place and found some discrepancies that urged him to question the original accounts of the Holocaust. Believing something based solely on what you've been told without question is not critical thinking. Critical Thinkers are not Conspiracy Theorists they search for the truth. David Cole has set out to do that.
For myself I will go with the accounts of my IMMIGRANT father who led a platoon from Belgium into Germany in 1945. Along the way his unit liberated at least one Labor Camp.
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:20 PM   #26
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To answer your questions….

Yes, the Holocaust was real

No, there was no “insurrection”. There was a bunch of morons who entered the Capital to well, act like morons.
Exactly! Plus One
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:01 PM   #27
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To answer your questions….

Yes, the Holocaust was real

No, there was no “insurrection”. There was a bunch of morons who entered the Capital to well, act like morons.
I would like to know your LOGIC regarding Jan. 6 sir
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For myself I will go with the accounts of my IMMIGRANT father who led a platoon from Belgium into Germany in 1945. Along the way his unit liberated at least one Labor Camp.
Yes American Troops Liberated the Camps, but what does that have to do with Gas Chambers and Crematoriums used to exterminate Prisoners?
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That "60 Minutes" was weird. I've been watching that show since I've been an adult and I have to give Leslie Stahl a lot of credit for listening to that fucking weirdo while following their rules about how she should dress and behave. The lady has to be around 75 or 80 and was treated like a kid.

I believe she is Jewish so listening to that idiot talk his nonsense must have been worse than listening to nails on a chalkboard to her.

Much respect to her for playing their game while letting their leader voluntarily expose his intolerance and ignorance.
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