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09-01-2022, 11:00 AM
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As stated in the article:
"Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H., senior director of infection prevention, and Gabor Kelen, M.D., director of the Johns Hopkins Office of Critical Event Preparedness and Response, answer questions about the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines."
These are people with a great deal of education in the area of viruses such as Covid. I have no reason to doubt what they say. I would trust such opinions more than opinions direct from the vaccine manufacturers.
I continue to be a participant in the Pfizer study. Every week I fill out a short diary as to whether or not I have experienced any Covid symptoms. It was through such participation that the need for a booster was validated.
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Well if all that sounds good to you then continue on with your quest for good Health through Chemistry. I look at the real world dilemmas some people are having with adverse reactions after being vaccinated. These reactions are not Covid-19 nor are they normal Immune Responses and I don't think they should be passed off as mere coincidence.
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09-01-2022, 12:08 PM
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"These Vaccines are a "One size fits all" they may not be safe for everyone."
Can you name one vaccine that isn't "one size fits all"...such as polio, tetanus, hepatitis, etc....extraneous "logic".
Regarding Geert Vanden Bossche, below is a link to a good article that addresses some of his (and other's) criticisms and the theory of adaptive evolution in about as close to layman terms as one can get. Yes, there is some ambiguity and I'm sure some here will take the opportunity to attack snippets therein, but on balance, it paints a pretty fair picture. One must also realize that there are a few "scientists" out there that are at least one bubble off despite their degrees.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8982595/
"I look at the real world dilemmas some people are having with adverse reactions after being vaccinated. These reactions are not Covid-19 nor are they normal Immune Responses and I don't think they should be passed off as mere coincidence."
Opinion, which you have a right to. Consider the source though, compared to the opinion and evidence of those with far more specific education, knowledge and direct experience.
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09-01-2022, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog1951
"These Vaccines are a "One size fits all" they may not be safe for everyone."
Can you name one vaccine that isn't "one size fits all"...such as polio, tetanus, hepatitis, etc....extraneous "logic".
Regarding Geert Vanden Bossche, below is a link to a good article that addresses some of his (and other's) criticisms and the theory of adaptive evolution in about as close to layman terms as one can get. Yes, there is some ambiguity and I'm sure some here will take the opportunity to attack snippets therein, but on balance, it paints a pretty fair picture. One must also realize that there are a few "scientists" out there that are at least one bubble off despite their degrees.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8982595/
"I look at the real world dilemmas some people are having with adverse reactions after being vaccinated. These reactions are not Covid-19 nor are they normal Immune Responses and I don't think they should be passed off as mere coincidence."
Opinion, which you have a right to. Consider the source though, compared to the opinion and evidence of those with far more specific education, knowledge and direct experience.
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That's right I am entitled to my opinions. I don't feel the absolute need to be vaccinated with this vaccine. Those with more education, knowledge and experience may possibly be exaggerating the truth and until I am convinced otherwise, I am not playing.
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09-01-2022, 01:47 PM
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"Those with more education, knowledge and experience may possibly be exaggerating the truth and until I am convinced otherwise, I am not playing."
And the earth could possibly be flat...of course, the preponderance of evidence shows otherwise. Believe what you want for youself, but don't be surprised if challenged to defend unsubstantiated BS presented as fact.
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09-01-2022, 01:58 PM
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"Those with more education, knowledge and experience may possibly be exaggerating the truth and until I am convinced otherwise, I am not playing."
And the earth could possibly be flat...of course, the preponderance of evidence shows otherwise. Believe what you want for youself, but don't be surprised if challenged to defend unsubstantiated BS presented as fact.
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My opinions will be challenged? Whom ever it may concern, bring it.
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09-01-2022, 02:12 PM
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Never said your OPINION would be challenged...just to keep the record straight.
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09-01-2022, 02:12 PM
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Well if all that sounds good to you then continue on with your quest for good Health through Chemistry. I look at the real world dilemmas some people are having with adverse reactions after being vaccinated. These reactions are not Covid-19 nor are they normal Immune Responses and I don't think they should be passed off as mere coincidence.
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Yes, no one denies there have been adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines but almost all are temporary. 224 million people in this country are fully vaccinated. 68% of the population. And the number of severe adverse reactions has been minimal. I'm not asking you to get the shot. That is totally your choice. I am in excellent physical condition and will continue to get recommended Covid shots, flu shots, pneumonia shots, shingles shots, etc. I weight the upside vs. the downside and the upside comes out way on top.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...e-side-effects
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09-01-2022, 02:43 PM
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Oh not my opinions, then what exactly did you mean?
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09-01-2022, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
Yes, no one denies there have been adverse reactions to the Covid vaccines but almost all are temporary. 224 million people in this country are fully vaccinated. 68% of the population. And the number of severe adverse reactions has been minimal. I'm not asking you to get the shot. That is totally your choice. I am in excellent physical condition and will continue to get recommended Covid shots, flu shots, pneumonia shots, shingles shots, etc. I weight the upside vs. the downside and the upside comes out way on top.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...e-side-effects
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I weigh all that too.
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09-01-2022, 02:58 PM
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1. Invalid "evidence" (or other opinion as opposed to verifiable fact) used as "proof" of opinion.
2. Opinion stated as fact
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09-01-2022, 03:48 PM
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1. Invalid "evidence" (or other opinion as opposed to verifiable fact) used as "proof" of opinion.
2. Opinion stated as fact
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You haven't posted any evidence on anything just your opinions as what you regard as facts.
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