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Old 08-08-2022, 06:31 PM   #1
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Default FBI Executes Search Warrant at Mar A Lago!

Just in. The FIbbies just raided the Fibber.

More as it develops.

And now there's more: From Trump himself -

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Donald Trump said in a statement, "After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate. It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don’t want me to run for President in 2024..."
Sounds about right ...


https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/polit...ump/index.html

FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago, former President says
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By Kaitlan Collins, CNN

Updated 7:27 PM ET, Mon August 8, 2022

'They even broke into my safe': Trump responds to search of his Mar-a-Lago home


(CNN)The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the former President confirmed to CNN.

Trump declined to say why the FBI agents were at Mar-a-Lago, but the former President said the raid was unannounced and "they even broke into my safe."

"My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement.

Trump was not in Florida at the time of the raid.

The Justice Department declined to comment, as did the White House.

CNN has reached out to the FBI for comment.
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Old 08-08-2022, 06:42 PM   #2
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I can’t wait for him to claim Fake News. He’ll claim it didn’t happen in a few days.
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Old 08-08-2022, 06:47 PM   #3
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I can’t wait for him to claim Fake News. He’ll claim it didn’t happen in a few days.
Nah, he's already commented twice, included a statement released by ... someone. And it just went public. I expect others to deny it happened.

Trump will be going BATSHIT on every media outlet that'll listen.

Like Fox:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ege-fbi-agents

Fox gives Twitler his soapbox, but the facts are the facts and they can't spin that too much.
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:03 PM   #4
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:18 PM   #5
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The old orange fat man is already working his retarded cult to dismiss any validity for the raid. Wow, what a big shock! Fortunately for him though, they are so stupid that they will believe every lie he tells them so he will pull of playing the persecuted victim with them as usual.
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:36 PM   #6
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The stupid fucks are Biden, Garland and Wray. They're the stooges who just gave Trump a giant political boost by making him look like a martyr/victim, while making the country look like a hopeless Banana Republic.

Trump must be secretly elated. His base is now fired up and frothing at the mouth. He's probably thinking "Thank you, Merrick Garland!"

Refresh my memory... what was Trump impeached for? Wasn't it something about "abuse of power"? Hmm... that rings kinda hollow now, doesn't it?
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:45 PM   #7
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The FBI is to the Democrat Party what the NKVD was to Stalin.

They better find something big. I don’t think the American People will put up with this.
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Old 08-08-2022, 08:13 PM   #8
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Wonder how long it'll be before the Plowed Boys and Oath Kickers start arriving at Mar A Lago to form a perimeter? How long before MTG says it's antifa?

My guess is this'll happen sometime around the beginning of Early Voting for the November general.

So far the only one to confirm this happened is Twitler himself. And he wasn't even in Berlin. He was at the nest.
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Old 08-08-2022, 08:13 PM   #9
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This looks worse and worse the more you think about it.

If the DOJ is seriously thinking of charging an ex-President and ongoing political rival with anything criminal, then it screams out for the appointment of a Special Counsel. In this situation, nobody can have confidence in the DOJ's fairness, independence and lack of partisanship. Even if the country wasn't so horribly divided, handing the case over to a Special Counsel should be a no-brainer.

On the other hand, if the DOJ is merely looking for classified documents that Trump may have taken with him to Mar-a-Lago when he left office instead of handing them over to the National Archives, this hardly warrants an FBI raid on a former President's home.

Either way, it's a gross error on the part of the Biden administration. A jaw-dropping example of legal & political overreach and miscalculation.
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The FBI is to the Democrat Party what the NKVD was to Stalin.

They better find something big. I don’t think the American People will put up with this.
Sure the American people will put up with it regardless. Most of America knows what a piece of shit Trump is and could not care less about what happens to him.

Dude got his ass kicked in an election by a zombie. That tells you how little the majority of this country thinks about that con man.
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Live Updates: F.B.I. Searches Trump’s Home in Florida
The former president said that Mar-a-Lago had been “raided” and that authorities had even broken into a safe.


The search appears to be focused on materials Trump took from the White House.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08...trump-fbi-raid

Former President Donald J. Trump said on Monday that the F.B.I. had searched his Palm Beach, Fla., home and had broken open a safe — an account signaling a dramatic escalation in the various investigations into the final stages of his presidency.

The search, according to multiple people familiar with the investigation, appeared to be focused on material that Mr. Trump had brought with him to Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence, when he left the White House. Those boxes contained many pages of classified documents, according to a person familiar with their contents.

Mr. Trump delayed returning 15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives for many months, only doing so when there became a threat of action to retrieve them.

The F.B.I. would have needed to convince a judge that it had probable cause that a crime had been committed to get a search warrant, and proceeding with a search on a former president’s home would almost surely have required sign-off from top officials at the bureau and the Justice Department.

A spokesperson for the F.B.I. declined to comment, and Justice Department officials did not initially respond to requests for comment.

Mr. Trump was in the New York area at the time of the search.

Mr. Trump, who campaigned for president in 2016 criticizing Hillary Clinton’s practice of maintaining a private email server for government-related messages while she was secretary of state, was known throughout his term to rip up official material that was intended to be held for presidential archives. One person familiar with his habits said that included classified material that was shredded in his bedroom and elsewhere.

“After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate,” Mr. Trump said, maintaining it was an effort to stop him from running for president in 2024. “Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries.”

“They even broke into my safe!” he wrote.

Mr. Trump did not share any details about what the F.B.I. agents said they were searching for.

The search took place on Monday morning, a person familiar with it said, although Mr. Trump claimed agents were still there many hours later.

The search was at least in part for whether any records remained at the club, the person familiar with the search said.

Aides to President Biden said they were stunned by the development and learned of it from Twitter.

The search came as the Justice Department has also been stepping up questioning of former Trump aides who had been witnesses to discussions and planning in the White House of Mr. Trump’s efforts to remain in office after his loss in the 2020 election.

Mr. Trump has been the focus of questions asked by federal prosecutors in connection with a scheme to send “fake” electors to Congress for the certification of the Electoral College.

The current F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray, was appointed by Mr. Trump.


The law governing the preservation of White House materials, the Presidential Records Act, lacks teeth, but criminal statutes can come into play, especially in the case of classified material.

Criminal codes, which carry jail time, target anyone who “willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States” and anyone who “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys” government documents.

Samuel R. Berger, a national security adviser to President Bill Clinton, pleaded guilty in 2015 to a misdemeanor charge for removing classified material from a government archive. In 2007, Donald Keyser, an Asia expert and former senior State Department official, was sentenced to prison after he confessed to keeping more than 3,000 sensitive documents — ranging from the classified to the top secret — in his basement.

In 1999, the C.I.A. announced it had suspended the security clearance of its former director, John M. Deutch, after concluding that he had improperly handled national secrets on a desktop computer at his home.

In January of this year, the archives retrieved 15 boxes that Mr. Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago from the White House residence when his term ended. The boxes included material subject to the Presidential Records Act, which requires that all documents and records pertaining to official business be turned over to the archives.

The items in the boxes included documents, mementos, gifts and letters. The archives did not describe the classified material it found other than to say that it was “classified national security information.”

Because the National Archives “identified classified information in the boxes,” the agency “has been in communication with the Department of Justice,” David S. Ferriero, the national archivist, told Congress at the time.

Federal prosecutors subsequently began a grand jury investigation, according to two people briefed on the matter. Prosecutors issued a subpoena earlier this year to the archives to obtain the boxes of classified documents, according to the two people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

The authorities also made interview requests to people who worked in the White House in the final days of Mr. Trump’s presidency, according to one of the people.

Mr. Trump made clear in his statement that he sees potential political value in the search, something some of his advisers echoed, depending on what any investigation produces.
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Most Americans care what happens to our country. If this can happen to a former President, what makes you think it can't happen to you?

Just because you're so quick & ready to tear up the Constitution and deny due process to your political enemies doesn't mean "most of America" agrees.
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News flash: After an exhausting and thorough search all the fbi found were nude photos of hillary

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The Democrats are so afraid of Trump it's not even funny anymore. The more they pursue Trump the more suspicious they begin to look.
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Most Americans care what happens to our country. If this can happen to a former President, what makes you think it can't happen to you?

Just because you're so quick & ready to tear up the Constitution and deny due process to your political enemies doesn't mean "most of America" agrees.



What makes it think it can't happen to me? The fact that I do not now, nor have I ever-- possessed classified documents.



He had 5 boxes that he admitted to having.. and when those were returned, classified materials were in the boxes. While there IS a lot of animosity towards Trump, there is also reason to believe that there may be more to this and I'm betting someone that has spoken with officials gave them reason to conduct the search.



If there IS reason-- will any of you listen? If there isn't.. then lucky you-- Trump just punched his ticket for 2024.
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