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07-30-2022, 10:02 AM
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#136
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... Blimey! ... The hits just keep on coming!
Here's another: ... Hutchinson story or not - President TRUMP
is STILL the odds-on Favourite to Win in 2024! ...
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07-30-2022, 10:41 AM
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Here's another reason it is totally stupid to think that she was coached into what to say. Let's say she is in some sort of trouble, if she is it wouldn't be anything that serious. It really wouldn't be worth the time to go through a possible 2-3 year trial process for something relatively trivial in the first place.
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Did you learn nothing from the past? Does "we will bankrupt you in attorney fees and make your life miserable", ring a bell to you, like they did to General Flynn and others? Just those few words, will make anybody come around.
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But lets say she was in trouble of some sort. The commission approached her to give a false story. Her next move would be to go to her lawyer about what was asked of her and boom she is instantly out of any trouble.
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Unless of course "her lawyer" was connected to the DNC, who would then advise her to co-operate and stay out of trouble.
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Conspiring to coerce a witness to lie under oath carries a stiff penalty and no one in their right mind would even think about it let alone actually do it.
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Two words, Adam Schiff.
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Especially a with a witness like Cassidy... she is totally a nothingburger in the grand scheme of the trump clan.
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And I have no doubt those were the words used to convince her that nobody will be coming to save you sweetheart.
The real value is in finding who of the hundreds arrested conspired with Trump or his team to try to reverse the election and plan the Jan 6 stupidity. That is where the deals will be cut, with the dumb boy ultimate trumptard "leaders" to try and save their asses.
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And yet none of those arrested have offered any such testimony.
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07-30-2022, 10:44 AM
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#138
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You trump cultists will make up anything to cover for your leader. No one on the left is dumb enough to make up a story like that and have it presented under oath. The whole commission would have to be involved in something like that. Her testimony as bad as it made trump look isn't worth the risk.
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Who is risking anything with Merrick Garland, Biden's wingman in charge of prosecution? Come on man.
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07-30-2022, 10:48 AM
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As I've said before, I hope they are successful at getting Trump either dis-qualified from running or put him in jail till after the 2024 election to keep him from being an issue. How is that for a so called Trump cultist?
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07-30-2022, 11:28 AM
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And yet none of those arrested have offered any such testimony.
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Yet, this is far from over. There was one dumb boy on the stand so far. They have to know who the ring leaders are by now. They need the "smoking gun", who met with trump before the terrorist attack, what was said, etc. Deals will be cut to get to trump.
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07-30-2022, 11:33 AM
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As I've said before, I hope they are successful at getting Trump either dis-qualified from running or put him in jail till after the 2024 election to keep him from being an issue. How is that for a so called Trump cultist?
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Typical.
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07-30-2022, 11:54 AM
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Hoist on their own petard. You know the phrase. It means that the explosive that you're carrying blew up before you could get rid of it. Nancy and Chuck think they can disqualify Trump from running for president as he "supported an insurrection". Of course, the definition for insurrection is not up to them to define. For the last two and half years Biden and Harris supported the riots, raised money for bail, or otherwise offered support for Antifa and BLM. The right judge (a fair judge) can call out both Biden and Harris as supporting insurrections
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07-30-2022, 01:26 PM
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So stupid comparing the riots to the attempted overthrow of a free and fair election. It's like comparing an apple to a rotten tomato.
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07-30-2022, 01:59 PM
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Yet, this is far from over. There was one dumb boy on the stand so far. They have to know who the ring leaders are by now. They need the "smoking gun", who met with trump before the terrorist attack, what was said, etc. Deals will be cut to get to trump.
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They do know who the ring leaders are, they've all been sentenced. Oh, you mean the super secret ring leaders yet to be found by the FBI and DOJ.
But you are right, without somebody providing testimony with the proof to back it up that there was a "conspiracy", all this dies on the vine.
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Deals will be cut to get to trump
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The left has been saying that for 5 1/2 years now
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07-30-2022, 02:02 PM
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It’s already dead.
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07-30-2022, 02:06 PM
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So stupid comparing the riots to the attempted overthrow of a free and fair election. It's like comparing an apple to a rotten tomato.
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Damn, RIOTS, admitting that is a step in the right direction. It all comes down to "breaking laws" no matter the reason for doing so. Democrats, including the VP of the United States put up bail for people arrested for breaking the law. No Republican lawmaker that I'm aware of has put up bail for any Jan. 6th rioter. Over looking the breaking of criminal laws is wrong no matter which party does it. Do you believe in equal justice under the law because I sure as hell do.
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07-30-2022, 02:08 PM
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It’s already dead.
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I'm not putting anything past this FBI and Merrick Garland, Joe Biden's wingman. I think there is a 50/50 chance that Garland will bring charges against Trump even if he can't convict.
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07-30-2022, 02:24 PM
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https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/
Since I've never seen any of this information posted before, I thought I would put it up for your edumacation.
What Happened to the Jan. 6 Insurrectionists Arrested Since the Capitol Riot
More than 840 people have been arrested for storming the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021, with charges ranging from obstruction of an official proceeding to assault. But 17 months after the attempted insurrection, a significant number of rioters are still awaiting their sentencing.[/COLOR] Only around a quarter of those arrested—185 individuals—have received criminal sentences, while the rest are waiting for their trials or haven’t yet reached plea agreements. According to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, 80 defendants were sentenced to periods of incarceration, with longer prison terms for those who engaged in violence or threats. So far, the median prison sentence for the Jan. 6 rioters is 45 days. An additional 57 rioters have been sentenced to periods of home detention, while most sentences have included fines, community service and probation for low-level offenses like illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol, which is a misdemeanor.
Here’s a look at what happened to 14 of the most high-profile Jan. 6 rioters.
Robert Scott Palmer: 63 months in prison
The Florida man who hurled wooden boards and a fire extinguisher at police officers guarding the Lower West Terrace tunnel of the Capitol was sentenced to more than five years in federal prison—the longest sentence given to anyone charged in the Jan. 6 riot.
“Defendant’s repeated violent assaults on law enforcement for the purpose of overturning a democratic election warrant a significant term of imprisonment,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert Juman wrote in the sentencing memo Dec. 10.
Palmer, age 54 at his sentencing, pleaded guilty in October to assaulting law enforcement officers with a dangerous weapon. His plea agreement originally called for a 46 to 57 month sentence, but it was increased to 63 months after he wrote on his fundraising website that he had acted in self-defense, contradicting his earlier comments in court about taking responsibility for his actions.
Devlyn Thompson: 46 months in prison
Thompson took part in the rioting for nearly three hours on Jan. 6, during which time he assaulted a police officer with a metal baton. He also tried to throw a speaker at the police, but missed and ended up injuring another rioter.
Thompson later pleaded guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon. In December, Federal District Court Judge Royce Lamberth sentenced the 28-year-old Thompson to 46 months in prison with credit for time served, along with 36 months of supervised release and a required payment of $2,000 in restitution.
“You didn’t just come up and sock a guy in the face,” Lamberth said at the sentencing. “You’re shoving and pushing…and participating in this riot for hours.” Thompson apologized to the officer he hit with the baton in a letter filed in court.
Lonnie Leroy Coffman: 46 months in prison
] Coffman drove to Capitol Hill from Alabama on Jan. 6, 2021, in a pickup truck loaded with powerful weapons, and is believed to have been the most heavily armed defendant during the attack. In his truck, investigators found a small arsenal of molotov cocktails, a 9mm handgun, a rifle, a shotgun, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, a crossbow with bolts, machetes, camouflage smoke detectors and gas-filled Mason jars used to make napalm (a kind of homemade bomb). Coffman, age 72 at his sentencing in April, was also carrying two handguns at the time of his arrest. All the guns were loaded.
“I don’t think I’ve seen in all my years as a judge, quite such a collection of weapons,” said U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, according to The Washington Post.
During the trial, neither Coffman nor his lawyer offered an explanation as to why he brought such weaponry to the Capitol. Although he wandered away from his truck and never used any of them, his sentence is one of the longest yet imposed in the Capitol attack investigation. “I wish that I had stayed home,” Coffman told the judge from a remote video screen in jail. He pleaded guilty to possession of unregistered weapons and was sentenced to 46 months in prison in April.
Nicholas Languerand: 44 months in prison
Court documents show that Languerand, a QAnon follower, threw various objects at officers with the U.S. Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department, including an orange traffic barrier and two stick-like objects. The officers were protecting the Lower West Terrace entrance to the Capitol.
Prosecutors claimed the items were capable of inflicting serious bodily injury based on the size and weight of the objects, as well as the speed and force with which Languerand threw them. During his trial, investigators said he showed little remorse and indicated that he wanted to see more violence, alleging he had sent a message to an associate that read, “Violence isn’t always the answer but in the face of tyranny violence may be the only answer,” and “Next time we come back with rifles.”
] Languerand, age 26 at his sentencing, pleaded guilty in November to assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers with a dangerous weapon. He was sentenced to 44 months in prison, followed by mandatory two years of supervised release. He was also ordered to perform 60 hours of community service and to pay $2,000 in restitution
Jacob Anthony Chansley: 41 months in prison
] Chansley—a self-described shaman and a follower of the QAnon conspiracy theory—is one of the most recognizable Jan. 6 rioters, thanks to viral photographs of his outlandish getup
According to court documents, Chansley confessed to federal agents that he was the man photographed in former Vice President Mike Pence’s chair on the Senate dais with his face painted, wearing a horned headdress and no shirt. His imposing image became a symbol of the Jan. 6 attack, though he later expressed regret for storming the Capitol.[/COLOR]
Scott Kevin Fairlamb: 41 months in prison
Videos from the Capitol riot show Fairlamb climbing on inauguration scaffolding, pushing a police officer into a group of people and punching the officer’s face shield. Court filings also indicate that Fairlamb briefly entered the Capitol.
In one video he posted to Facebook on Jan. 6, Fairlamb yells: “What patriots do? We f—n’ disarm them and then we storm the f—n’ Capitol.”
Fairlamb, age 44 at his sentencing, pleaded guilty in August to assaulting an officer and obstructing an official proceeding of Congress. He was sentenced to 41 months in prison, with credit for time served, and ordered to pay $2,000 in restitution for damages to the building.
Barnett was photographed with his foot on a desk in Pelosi’s office during the violence at the Capitol.[
] He was released in April while he awaits his trial, after spending nearly four months in jail on charges including obstructing an official proceeding, entering the Capitol while armed with a deadly or dangerous weapon (a stun gun), and theft of government property (for stealing a piece of government mail). Federal prosecutors say Barnett deleted all of his iCloud data related to the Jan. 6 insurrection, according to a recent court filing.
Matthew Greene: Awaiting sentencing
Greene is the first self-identified member of the Proud Boys—a far-right extremist group—to plead guilty to obstructing Congress and conspiring to obstruct law enforcement during the Capitol attack.Court documents indicate Greene, age 34 at the time of his plea, was “among the first wave” to rush up the Capitol steps after the police line was breached. He faces up to 25 years in prison, although prosecutors plan to recommend a sentence of 41 to 50 months because he agreed to cooperate with law enforcement. In March, Greene was allowed out of jail and placed in home confinement until he is sentenced.
Greg Rubenacker: 41 months in prison
The Long Island DJ who recorded himself smoking marijuana inside the U.S. Capitol building was sentenced to three years and five months in prison after pleading guilty to all 10 charges he faced, including civil disorder and committing an act of physical violence on Capitol grounds.
Court documents show Rubenacker, age 26 at his sentencing, engaged in a series of confrontations with law enforcement while inside the Capitol, and was among the small crowd that chased Capitol Police Officer Eugene Goodman up the stairs outside the Senate Chamber. Prosecutors said Rubenacker resisted officers who were trying to force the rioters from the area, swinging a plastic water bottle at one officer’s head and spraying water from the bottle. He also posted a video of himself smoking a joint on Snapchat with the caption “Smoke out the Capitol, baby.”
] Following his prison term, Rubenacker will be placed on three years of supervised release. He was ordered to pay $2,000 in restitution.
Matthew Ryan Miller: 33 months in prison
Draped in a Confederate flag, the 21-year-old Maryland man was seen on video throwing objects at police officers and scaling the walls of the Capitol building. According to court documents, Miller, age 23 at his sentencing in May 2022, threw a full beer can and batteries in the direction of law enforcement. He also sprayed a fire extinguisher directly into the tunnel onto police officers. His lawyer claimed he was drunk and high at the time
Cleveland Meredith, Jr.: 28 months in prison
Meredith traveled from Colorado to attend the “Stop the Steal” rally that led to the attempted insurrection at the Capitol, but later told investigators that he arrived too late in the evening. The day afterward, on Jan. 7, he sent a family member in Georgia a text message threatening to kill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Meredith’s mother contacted the FBI, and members located him at a Holiday Inn a mile from the Capitol.
Meredith gave investigators consent to search his phone, along with his truck and trailer outside. The FBI discovered texts in which he threatened to assassinate Pelosi and District of Columbia Mayor Muriel Bowser. He had sent a text earlier that day that said, “Calm before the STORM,” seemingly referring to a cataclysmic event in which QAnon followers believed that Donald Trump would expose a cabal of satanic pedophiles. In the search of Meredith’s trailer, the FBI found an assault rifle, a nine millimeter pistol and hundreds of rounds of ammunition
] Meredith, age 53 at his sentencing, pleaded guilty to communicating a threat across state lines. In December, he received a sentence of 28 months in prison with credit for time served
Michael Curzio: 6 months in prison
Curzio, who has ties with a white supremacist gang and was at the front of the crowd on Jan. 6, pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count and served the maximum sentence of six months in jail. He participated in the Capitol riot just two years after he was released from an eight-year prison sentence for attempted murder.
Justice Department lawyers said Curzio had an “undisputed history” of membership with an extremist group known as the Unforgiven, a violent, white supremacist gang operating both inside and outside of the Florida corrections system. “At the time of his arrest, he bore tattoos with Nazi symbology associated with that gang and was wearing a necklace with a Thor’s-hammer pendant,” the Justice Department wrote. “While he claims the pendant is a representation of sincere religious belief, Thor’s hammer is also known to be a white-supremacist symbol.
Gracyn Dawn Courtright: 1 month in prison
While she was inside the Capitol, Courtright, then age 23 and a senior at the University of Kentucky, took a photo of herself in a mirror and afterward posted it to Instagram, along with the words, “INFAMY IS JUST AS GOOD AS FAME.” She shared her participation in the riot on Instagram multiple times, and someone took a screenshot and reported her.
Footage from Jan. 6 shows Courtright on the second floor of the Capitol building, holding up a “Members Only” sign. Authorities arrested her two weeks later and she faced multiple charges, including for theft of the sign.
Courtright pleaded guilty to a charge of entering a restricted building in August, at which point other charges against her were dropped. In December, she was sentenced to one month in prison. In addition, she has a year of supervised release following her sentence, will need to complete 60 hours of community service and must pay $500 in restitution for damages to the Capitol.
Following her arrest, Courtright withdrew from college
Robert Chapman: 18 months of probation
One week after Jan. 6, Chapman told someone on the dating app Bumble that he took part in the riot. “I did storm the capitol,” he wrote in a message. “I made it all the way to Statuary Hall!” The person Chapman confessed to then replied, “We are not a match.
Later that day, the person Chapman communicated with on Bumble contacted the FBI. Federal investigators matched Chapman’s Bumble profile to images of him inside the Capitol building. They identified him by working with New York State authorities and matching his likeness to a 2017 mugshot, in which he had the same distinctive sideburns.
In December, Chapman, at age 51, pleaded guilty to “parading, demonstrating or picketing” in a Capitol building. He was later sentenced to 3 months of home detention, followed by 18 months of probation, and was ordered to pay a $742 fine and $500 restitution.
Richard Barnett: Awaiting sentencing
Draped in a Confederate flag, the 21-year-old Maryland man was seen on video throwing objects at police officers and scaling the walls of the Capitol building. According to court documents, Miller, age 23 at his sentencing in May 2022, threw a full beer can and batteries in the direction of law enforcement. He also sprayed a fire extinguisher directly into the tunnel onto police officers. His lawyer claimed he was drunk and high at the time
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07-30-2022, 02:51 PM
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Wasted a full can of beer for trump, shameful.
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07-30-2022, 03:08 PM
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So stupid comparing the riots to the attempted overthrow of a free and fair election. It's like comparing an apple to a rotten tomato.
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You keep wishing...they will never prove "attemped overthrow".
This circus is nothing but a waste of taxpayer money.
After over a year and a half, tell us what they have proven??
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