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09-05-2020, 12:03 PM
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No because even brain dead liberal journalists can see the truth occasionally. Arrested and charged does not a conviction make. but tell yourself whatever you need to to keep from having to acknowledge it was a righteous shoot.
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They had to arrest him on significant charges, just to signal to others that street violence will be swiftly dealt with. And a thorough investigation is required. So far the ''evidence'' points to exoneration. That Rosenbaum Goon had it coming.
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09-05-2020, 08:04 PM
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The big difference between him and Sandmann is that he actually committed the acts that he has been accused of in the media. The only question is whether or not he'll be convicted.
Nick was accused of doing something he didn't actually do-- when full video of what actually happened was available.
There isn't going to be a payday for this kid.
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02-06-2021, 02:46 PM
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Still waiting to see this kid get off the hook and start collecting his slander millions.
Guess he missed his Presidential Medal of Freedom and his pardon.
Rittenhouse, now 18, is charged with homicide for shooting three men during protests in Kenosha, killing two. He was released on bond Nov. 23. The $2 million was raised through donations, including cash from MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell and former child actor Ricky Schroder, to the #FightBack Foundation operated by attorney Lin Wood. Prosecutors are currently seeking to raise Rittenhouse’s bond by $200,000, arguing he violated terms of his bond by failing to update his address after moving. Rittenhouse’s defense argues that his address must be kept secret due to threats. The judge in the case has not yet ruled on the prosecution motion.
Sounds like he's living it up.
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11-20-2021, 12:23 AM
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NOT GUILTY. There is justice.
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11-21-2021, 01:03 PM
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NOT GUILTY. There is justice.
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Hard to believe but it happened! The whole circus was exacerbated by pundits and so called experts for a public too lazy to research, or wait for the outcome, but in a hurry to express an shallow opinion.
I wonder what our own eccie legal correspondant and expert, semiretired Judge dis Grace P. has to say or pontificate. Is she faithful to the party line or accept the verdict?
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11-22-2021, 04:24 AM
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I wonder what our own eccie legal correspondant and expert, semiretired Judge dis Grace P. has to say or pontificate. Is she faithful to the party line or accept the verdict?
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Before you try to call me out by name, might want to scroll up a bit where I specifically said he had a GREAT chance of getting off on the charges. And.... he did. He was overcharged from the word go-- and I knew as soon as the judge dropped the weapons charge, it was all over but the cryin'
While I do "lean left"... I'm by no means a line-toeing liberal. Most of my leftist leanings are social-- I'm a social liberal/fiscal conservative for the most part.
Now.. as to the civil suits-- he'll make a little money off of it, but I don't think his position is anywhere near as strong as Sandmann's was. Having been formally charged hurts him as well-- as he can't automatically claim that his future prospects are limited due to CNN, etc... having murder charges levied against you, even if exonerated--will still cast quite the shadow over your prospects. If I were in his shoes-- I'd do the talk circuit and then take one of those jobs as a Congressional staffer that he's been offered. He's got a decent path laid out for him if he is smart with how he moves.
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11-22-2021, 09:22 PM
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Now.. as to the civil suits-- he'll make a little money off of it, but I don't think his position is anywhere near as strong as Sandmann's was. Having been formally charged hurts him as well-- as he can't automatically claim that his future prospects are limited due to CNN, etc... having murder charges levied against you, even if exonerated--will still cast quite the shadow over your prospects. If I were in his shoes-- I'd do the talk circuit and then take one of those jobs as a Congressional staffer that he's been offered. He's got a decent path laid out for him if he is smart with how he moves.
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Agreed
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11-24-2021, 02:01 PM
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he had a GREAT chance of getting off on the charges. And.... he did. He was overcharged from the word go-- and I knew as soon as the judge dropped the weapons charge, it was all over but the cryin'
Having been formally charged hurts him as well-- as he can't automatically claim that his future prospects are limited due to CNN, etc...
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Personally, I think it was all over when the guy who got shot in the arm admitted that Kyle did absolutely nothing until he pointed his gun at Kyle. Kind of sucks to have to tell the truth in court and it was evident by his hesitation when pressed.
Also, isn't it wonderful that we live in a time where we have politically motivated "attempted" prosecutions and individuals have to suffer for the rest of their lives because of it. Some how, I don't see this coming from the right, just the righteous left.
The judge HAD to dismiss the gun charges because they were not valid. It was not the judges decision to decide that outside the law. It was the prosecutor that levied charges that were unlawful.
Sorry but when you chase someone and point a gun to their face while they are armed, something bad is gonna happen every time. Its called repercussions of your actions.
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01-08-2022, 11:08 AM
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I'm not pro-riot or pro-looting and think all these people should go home. However, he has almost no chance of getting off. I was taught and this is true in most states that you cannot use deadly force to protect property. If someone is stealing your car out of your driveway, you cannot legally run out shoot and kill them.
Castle Doctrine, a different scenario, doesn't apply here.
In order to legally use deadly force, you have to be somewhere that you have a legal right to be, not involved in illegal activity such as carrying around an assault rifle underage and you have to feel that your life is in imminent danger. He's got 1 out of the 3.
Comparing his situation to Sandmann? Nick Sandmann did not commit a crime, was not charged with any crime. It's apples and oranges.
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No chance became absolutely. How’s that crow taste?
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01-09-2022, 12:50 PM
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No chance became absolutely. How’s that crow taste?
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Well, when I made that statement over a year ago, I had no idea that the judge would disallow any evidence of the defendant’s previous history as is usually examined thoroughly in most Capital Murder trials. Such as text messages, social media posts, previous statements made on video, which was quite target rich in this defendant’s history. Also, all the laws being broken by the defendant at the time were eliminated from consideration as well, that's highly unusual.
For example, when Amber Guyger was on trial, I think they examined her last 2 years of personal text messages and all of her social media posts.
The prosecution could not even determine or examine his state of mind at the time, the judge threatened them with a mistrial if they did. Then when the bumbling prosecutors allowed one of the wounded witnesses to admit on the stand that he was aiming a gun at Rittenhouse at the time he was shot, I knew it was over.
Basically, this judge narrowed the scope of evidence that the jury could deliberate down to the 2 or so minutes of shootings. Still took the jury 4 days to deliberate. Based on the judge’s efforts, I was surprised that they deliberated longer than 20 minutes.
I imagine the honorable Judge Bruce Schroeder told them that he was about to declare a mistrial unless they saw it his way. The judge worked hard in this case. Nobody is eating crow here, the only thing on this menu was horseshit.
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02-04-2022, 04:42 PM
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Classic case of overcharging and yet you cheered loudly. Don’t bother replying how the crow tasted. I’m guessing you found a nice safe space after the verdict.
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02-04-2022, 05:57 PM
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As I said months ago, those Goons got what was coming. Rittenhouse is no Saint, but his attackers were worse, and deserved Kyle's bullets.
The Judge made it near impossible to convict Rittenhouse, though. I watched most of the trial, and many legal analysts had made that conclusion before deliberations started.
Kyle got caught up in his phony, Qanon-friendly celebrity. He should have thanked God, and gone away queitly. He has a lot to learn, at age 19.
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