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Old 12-04-2021, 06:15 PM   #121
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Sounds like WTFDoIKnow, who posts on Eccie...



Rather than post his accomplishments he trashes others....

... or fabricates them like he does his own. Example:

The Democratic Party is the party of Con Artist. They've been playing their mind games for generations. It's getting old now and more and more people are seeing that. That's why they want open Borders they need fresh meat.
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Old 12-04-2021, 06:50 PM   #122
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Then, are you on the inside?
No, I am on the outside looking in and I know what I am seeing. I hope you don't think these career Politicians are righteous people because the vast majority of them are not.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:18 PM   #123
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According to Giuffre, Maxwell came back giddy as a schoolgirl with news, with all the buildup and excitement in her voice you'd think she was the next crown princess. She had given George Cooney a blowjob in the bathroom at some random event... She never let that one down.

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Ghislaine Maxwell convicted in Epstein sex abuse case

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NEW YORK (AP) — The British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted Wednesday of luring teenage girls to be sexually abused by the American millionaire Jeffrey Epstein.


The verdict capped a monthlong trial featuring sordid accounts of the sexual exploitation of girls as young as 14, told by four women who described being abused as teens in the 1990s and early 2000s at Epstein’s palatial homes in Florida, New York and New Mexico.


Jurors deliberated for five full days before finding Maxwell guilty of five of six counts. With the maximum prison terms for each charge ranging from five to 40 years in prison, Maxwell faces the likelihood of years behind bars — an outcome long sought by women who spent years fighting in civil courts to hold her accountable for her role in recruiting and grooming Epstein’s teenage victims and sometimes joining in the sexual abuse.


As the verdict was read, Maxwell was largely stoic behind a black mask. Afterward, Maxwell could be seen pouring herself a cup of water as one of her attorneys patted her on the back. She stood with her hands folded as the jury filed out, and glanced at her siblings — faithfully in attendance each day of the trial — as she herself was led from the courtroom. She did not hug her lawyers on the way out, a marked change from previous days during which Maxwell and her team were often physically affectionate with one another.


The defense had insisted Maxwell was a victim of a vindictive prosecution devised to deliver justice to women deprived of their main villain when Epstein killed himself while awaiting trial in 2019.


During the trial, prosecutors called 24 witnesses to give jurors a picture of life inside Epstein’s homes — a subject of public fascination and speculation ever since his 2006 arrest in Florida in a child sex case.


A housekeeper testified he was expected to be “blind, deaf and dumb” about the private lives of Epstein, a financier who cultivated friendships with influential politicians and business tycoons, and Maxwell, who had led a jet-setting lifestyle as the favorite child of a media mogul.


Pilots took the witness stand and dropped the names of luminaries — Britain’s Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump — who flew on Epstein’s private jets.


Jurors saw physical evidence like a folding massage table once used by Epstein and a “black book” that listed contact information for some of the victims under the heading “massages.”


There were bank records showing he had transferred $30.7 million to Maxwell, his longtime companion — onetime girlfriend, later employee.


But the core of the prosecution was the testimony of four women who said they were victimized by Maxwell and Epstein at tender ages.


Three testified using first names or pseudonyms to protect their privacy: Jane, a television actress; Kate, a former model from Great Britain; and Carolyn, now a mom recovering from drug addiction. The fourth, psychologist Annie Farmer, chose to use her real name after being vocal about her allegations in recent years.


They echoed one another in their descriptions of Maxwell’s behavior: She used charm and gifts to gain their trust, taking an interest in their adolescent challenges and giving them assurances that Epstein could use his wealth and connections to fulfill their dreams.


They said the script would darken when Maxwell coaxed them into giving massages to Epstein that turned sexual, encounters she played off as normal: After one sexual massage, Kate, then 17, said Maxwell asked her if she’d had fun and told her: “You are such a good girl.”


Carolyn testified that she was one of several underprivileged teens who lived near Epstein’s Florida home in the early 2000s and took up an offer to give massages in exchange for $100 bills, which prosecutors described as “a pyramid of abuse.”


Maxwell made all the arrangements, Carolyn told the jury, even though she knew the girl was only 14 at the time.


Jane said in 1994, when she was only 14, she was instructed to follow Epstein into a pool house at his Palm Beach estate, where he masturbated on her.


Two charges, including the lone count on which Maxwell was acquitted, applied only to Jane.


“I was frozen in fear,” she told the jury, adding that assault was the first time she had ever seen a penis. She also directly accused Maxwell of participating in her abuse.


Maxwell’s lawyer asked Jane why it had taken so long to come forward.


“I was scared,” she said, choking back tears. “I was embarrassed, ashamed. I didn’t want anybody to know any of this about me.”


The last to testify, Farmer described how Maxwell touched her breasts while giving her a massage at Epstein’s New Mexico ranch and how Epstein unexpectedly crawled into bed and pressed himself against her.


Maxwell, who turned 60 on Christmas, vehemently denied the charges through her lawyers.


Still, she declined to take the risk of testifying, telling the judge: “The government has not proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt so there is no reason for me to testify.”


“The charges against Ghislaine Maxwell are for things that Jeffrey Epstein did,” one of Maxwell’s lawyers, Bobbi Sternheim, emphasized to the jury. “But she is not Jeffrey Epstein and she is not like Jeffrey Epstein.”


Maxwell’s legal team questioned whether the accusers’ memories were faulty, or had been influenced by lawyers seeking big payouts from Maxwell and from Epstein’s estate in civil court. During their two-day presentation, they called as a witness Elizabeth Loftus, a University of California Irvine professor who has testified as a memory expert for defense lawyers at about 300 trials, including the rape trial of movie mogul Harvey Weinstein.


Maxwell’s family complained she was under duress from harsh conditions at the Brooklyn jail where she’s been held since her arrest in July 2020. She had repeatedly, and futilely, sought bail, arguing that she was unable to adequately contribute to her defense.


Before Maxwell was taken from the courtroom, defense attorney Bobbi Sternheim asked that arrangements be made to give her a coronavirus booster shot, saying infection rates were rising dramatically at the lockup.


The legal fights involving Epstein and Maxwell are not over.


Maxwell still awaits trial on two counts of perjury.


Lawsuits loom, including one in which a woman not involved in the trial, Virginia Giuffre, says she was coerced into sexual encounters with Prince Andrew when she was 17. Andrew has denied her account and that lawsuit is not expected to come to trial for many months.
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Now comes the real bargaining. She knows that she is going to do time and she is not getting away. Now she can turn over pictures, videos, and documents to get her sentence reduced. Of course, she may commit suicide at any time now.
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Trump wishes her well...
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Now comes the real bargaining. She knows that she is going to do time and she is not getting away. Now she can turn over pictures, videos, and documents to get her sentence reduced. Of course, she may commit suicide at any time now.
They already have everything. The FBI probably burned it. But for safe measures, Gizzy will be paid a visit by the Clinton suicide team.
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Now comes the real bargaining. She knows that she is going to do time and she is not getting away. Now she can turn over pictures, videos, and documents to get her sentence reduced. Of course, she may commit suicide at any time now.

not sure she has anything to bargain with. Epstein had the goods and the Government has it now. there were a set of hard drives that they initially could not seize that were turned over by Epstein's attorney. these drives reportedly had FBI evidence tape on them. these drives were from the 2008 case and were from his Florida home. they were returned to Epstein and then were at his New York home in 2019. plus a large collection of DVD's were seized.


so it appears she doesn't have anything the Government doesn't already have, if she had copies at all.


her arrogance, as was Epstein's, is what put her in jail. after Epstein was dead she remained in the US when she has French citizenship. natural citizenship as her mother was French. France famously will not extradite citizens for criminal cases in the US. just ask Roman POLACK. she could have gone to France and she'd be untouchable there.
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not sure she has anything to bargain with. Epstein had the goods and the Government has it now. there were a set of hard drives that they initially could not seize that were turned over by Epstein's attorney. these drives reportedly had FBI evidence tape on them. these drives were from the 2008 case and were from his Florida home. they were returned to Epstein and then were at his New York home in 2019. plus a large collection of DVD's were seized.


so it appears she doesn't have anything the Government doesn't already have, if she had copies at all.


her arrogance, as was Epstein's, is what put her in jail. after Epstein was dead she remained in the US when she has French citizenship. natural citizenship as her mother was French. France famously will not extradite citizens for criminal cases in the US. just ask Roman POLACK. she could have gone to France and she'd be untouchable there.
Which begs the question, why didn’t the prosecution show some of the videos, pics or emails? We should start an over/under on Gizzy’s suicide. Case closed.
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I'm sure she has some juicy stuff put away somewhere. She could play it one of two ways; she could turn it over to the prosecutor for less time or she could threaten to turn it over to Fox News which would embarrass someone unless they lessen her time. The second one is very dangerous for her.
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Wonder how long before she is found hanging around somewhere.
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Interesting

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