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Old 10-15-2021, 06:19 PM   #91
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My interpretation is different Salty, more in line with the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board,

Donald Trump’s Hostage Politics
He says Republicans must agree the 2020 election was stolen or he’ll aid the Democrats.[/B]


And we're supposed to trust him? To lead? What a piece of shit.

He can't be trusted! How many times do people have to FUCKIN' POINT THAT OUT!

He'd side with China if it meant he could hide more money after their invasion.











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Old 10-15-2021, 06:20 PM   #92
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Ye Christ! The Wall Street Journal...

Blimey! They surely support Trump!

Why not also mention National Review...

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Old 10-15-2021, 06:35 PM   #93
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Ye Christ! The Wall Street Journal...

Blimey! They surely support Trump!

Why not also mention National Review...

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The WSJ mostly had Trump's back, until he started sabotaging the Republican Party after the election.
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:36 PM   #94
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Mr. Trump’s calculus works differently. When his ego is on the line, his voters’ interests are secondary. He might not like it if progressives control government and choke off American energy production or bludgeon social-media companies to censor conservatives. But his priority is that GOP candidates show obeisance to his claims that he was robbed in November. And he’s willing to help Democrats if Republicans refuse or even stay silent.









Shame on EVERYONE who supported him.
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Yes eccieuser, "winning" and satisfying his ego is more important to him than his country or his party. He has close to "0" chance of winning another presidential election. As long as he's the figurehead of the party, it's going to be difficult for Republicans to get a majority in the House or the Senate.
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:53 PM   #96
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Yes eccieuser, "winning" and satisfying his ego is more important to him than his country or his party. He has close to "0" chance of winning another presidential election. As long as he's the figurehead of the party, it's going to be difficult for Republicans to get a majority in the House or the Senate.

NPR again.


'Rational Republicans' say some in the party are killing the GOP


https://www.npr.org/2021/10/15/10462...illing-the-gop


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We're at a place now where what's happening across the country is a concerted effort to undermine the public's confidence in our electoral system.

And we feel that the best thing to do is to get Republicans when faced with a choice of a radical right Republican versus a centrist or moderate Democrat, that they should cross over and vote for the Democrat and vice versa. And actually, what's been interesting is I've had as much response from Democrats almost as Republicans saying, yes, I hear you. We need to do this. I've never voted Republican, but I understand, and I will.









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Oh I love seeing him kill off actual republicans. Even better is Trump voters killing off actual republicans. I actually like actual republicans but since they were incapable of standing up and telling trump to carry his ass, they need to get wiped out. His candidates will soon follow.

I may hate the progressives for being stupid but I surely hate trump candidates for being anti democratic
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Oh I love seeing him kill off actual republicans. Even better is Trump voters killing off actual republicans. I actually like actual republicans but since they were incapable of standing up and telling trump to carry his ass, they need to get wiped out. His candidates will soon follow.

I may hate the progressives for being stupid but I surely hate trump candidates for being anti democratic

What's up with that?

Doing it the democratic way is the way it should be done. Then a backlash of legal restrictions because the movement is affront? It finally took a snuff film.




I was just put off by the undecided hate. Sir.









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“Let’s Go Brandon”
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Old 10-15-2021, 09:26 PM   #100
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Here we go!






Those who know . . .

know.
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Old 10-16-2021, 10:11 AM   #101
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as a former Pittsburgh Steeler hall of fame linebacker - i wonder what Opinion Mr. Lambert would have about 95 unauthorized ( I presume) use of his visage????


Perhaps 95 would meet Mr. Lambert on teh field of Play????
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as a former Pittsburgh Steeler hall of fame linebacker - i wonder what Opinion Mr. Lambert would have about 95 unauthorized ( I presume) use of his visage????


Perhaps 95 would meet Mr. Lambert on teh field of Play????
Hmmm... or Kaperneck.

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Default Donald Trump, the Manchurian Candidate? No, Donald Trump the Democrat Plant

Hey, Here's an excerpt from another one from the Wall Street Journal. This guy agrees with me.


Trump Is a Democrat: How’s That for a Conspiracy Theory?
It may be insane, but it would explain why he keeps saving them from self-destruction.

by Gerard Baker

The claim that Donald Trump was a Manchurian candidate—somehow developed by Russia to do its bidding in exchange for a couple of lucrative real estate deals and some generous financing from financial institutions—was always obviously bogus.

But have we given enough attention to another possibility? What if he is a Democratic plant, the product of a brilliant conspiracy by the progressive left to help achieve the kind of social and economic transformation of the country that Americans would otherwise never conceive of voting for?

Is it possible that for the past six years we have all been the victims of one of the greatest double-bluffs in political history? That even as Democrats and their messengers in the media whipped up the idea that the U.S. had been hijacked by the Kremlin, they were the ones manipulating the Republican Party’s political processes to get their way?

Think about it, sheeple! The lurid stories of romps in Moscow hotel rooms, mysterious visits to Prague by senior Trump aides, coded communications between a state-controlled Russian bank and the Trump campaign—all made up. But might they just have been an elaborate smoke screen to disguise the real collusion, between the all-powerful Democratic machine and a man of no previously fixed political abode who suddenly became a Republican president?

....The thought is prompted by the former president’s broadside last week, in which he more or less instructed his supporters to do something that should produce Democratic landslides in forthcoming elections.

“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented) Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24. It’s the single most important thing for Republicans to do,” read the former president’s statement.

It’s not as though the strategy hasn’t worked perfectly before. In January, incensed by his failure to convince enough people that he had actually won last November’s election, he and some of his so-called aides suggested voters in Georgia shouldn’t bother showing up in the state’s Senate runoff election because that too was going to be rigged.

The result: Just enough Republicans who had voted in the first round last November declined to follow up in the Jan. 5 runoff, and we got Two Senators Who Changed the World. Or at least tried to.

To that helpful intervention by Mr. Trump can be attributed trillions of dollars in prospective tax and spending increases, several confirmations of far-left Biden nominees, and this continuing offense against sanity: Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders.


And this is the gift that keeps on giving to Democrats. If Mr. Trump’s latest campaign is successful, he may well deter just enough voters from going to the polls in next month’s knife-edge Virginia governor’s race, thereby handing the Old Dominion to a Democratic Party that thinks it owns your children and has the right to tell them what to think.

As it stands, we are governed by among the most incompetent, ideologically extreme, dishonest governments in living memory. If the normal laws of political gravity were to apply, the Democrats should be headed for an epic defeat in next year’s midterms, with Republicans sweeping away the tiny Democratic majority in the House, breaking the tie in their favor in the Senate, strengthening their grip on statehouses and governors’ mansions across the country, and rescuing the country from the lunacy of the Sanders-AOC political condominium.

But if Mr. Trump gets his way, none of that will happen.

It’s important to state this again. There was a lot wrong with the 2020 election, from the Democrat-managed and Democrat-friendly explosion in mail-in voting to late rule changes, in some cases improperly implemented to facilitate more Democratic voting, and the disgraceful way in which media and tech companies sought to manipulate opinion in favor of the Biden campaign.

But that doesn’t qualify as the great Presidential Election Fraud Mr. Trump is prepared to throw over the future of the country to prove. It certainly needs to be redressed—and the best way to do that is to elect politicians who will redress it. The kind of Republican voter suppression he seems to crave benefits only one party—and again it’s not the one the former president claims to support.


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Tiny, is this some sort of reverse psychology?

you want me to believe they peed on trump's bed by saying of course that didn't happen while claiming something even crazier happened so I will begin to think the less crazy thing happened and you will have tricked me

but I'm on to you
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Tiny, is this some sort of reverse psychology?

you want me to believe they peed on trump's bed by saying of course that didn't happen while claiming something even crazier happened so I will begin to think the less crazy thing happened and you will have tricked me

but I'm on to you
I didn't quote the whole thing, so as to hopefully not violate copyright law. The writer said that Trump is not a Democrat plant. However, he might as well be when he suggests Republicans should not vote.

You are a member of the elite eccie brain trust, one of our energy experts, so I trust you are sophisticated enough not to fall for whatever kind of psychology it is that would cause you to stay home and not vote.

The writer is correct. Democrats won the Georgia Senate runoffs because of Trump, and we're going to pay for it. Like about $5 trillion.
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