When You've Lost The Washington Post, You Know You've Screw Up, Joe

[oeb11]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...istan-n2595086


Source: AP Photo/Evan Vucci


It takes a lot for the editorial board of a major liberal paper to shred you. As a Democrat, you have to have screwed up royally. For Joe Biden, his chaotic and utterly shameful Afghanistan exit was just something that not even The Washington Post could defend. We’re out now. America’s longest war in Afghanistan is over. The last planes left yesterday. After two decades of war, we replaced the Taliban with…the Taliban. The national army we helped train collapsed in less than two weeks. The government we propped up evaporated in the same timeframe. A lot of lies were sold to us and we’ll get to the bottom of those, but now Biden has to contend with the fact that he left Americans behind. He left key Afghans and their families behind. The number of folks we promised to get out has soared into the thousands. This is a “moral disaster,” and the publication did no hold back ripping the Biden administration for strategic and tactical missteps that created this catastrophe. Oh, and they’re not impressed with the Biden team’s ‘we’ve conducted the most awesome and bestest airlift ever ’talking point either (via WaPo) [emphasis mine]:

Enormous as it is, the number of people evacuated by air from Kabul since the end of July — about 122,000 — is not large enough. Thankfully, many thousands of American citizens, third-country nationals and Afghans who worked directly for U.S. and allied military forces or embassies made it out. But many thousands of people did not, including former U.S. interpreters and their families, and Afghans classified by President Biden and his administration as “vulnerable” — such as staff for U.S.-based nongovernmental organizations and women’s rights activists. As security worsened in the wake of a horrific terrorist attack at the airport last Thursday, and as U.S. troops prepared for their own departure on Monday, time and space ran out for these people. This is a moral disaster, one attributable not to the actions of military and diplomatic personnel in Kabul — who have been courageous and professional, in the face of deadly dangers — but to mistakes, strategic and tactical, by Mr. Biden and his administration.

Oh, and they go on about the abandonment of those at the American University in Kabul. At least 600 students and other personnel tried to get to the airport before the US left. They were turned away—and the Taliban has a list of all their names. The Biden White House is not just trusting the Taliban to keep their word on not harming these folks, but also to create an inclusive government and—get this—conduct counterterror operations. Is this a joke? Their core philosophy is not inclusive at all. Women’s rights are dead. And they’re hanging people from the Black Hawk helicopters we left behind. We’re told we have leverage to ensure the safe passage of those left behind. I very much doubt that especially from Antony Blinken, our secretary of state, who is a deer in the headlights. Biden is also disengaged, aloof. He met with Gold Star families. It did not go well. He bristled at one father of a dead US Marine. He’s going through the motions because he wants to move past this, and he can’t. We have dead American troops. Our exit was a disaster. We still have Americans stranded and as Afghanistan becomes more unstable, and it will since the Taliban is about to fight a civil war of their own in a throwback to their time in power in the mid-1990s—there’s no way we can get all our people out. Joe doesn’t care. He never did. And he has an unhealthy animosity towards the military. Oh, I know about Beau. The man has used his dead son as a shield, those days are over. Biden hates the brass, the military, and seems angrier at the fact that Afghanistan is something he now must deal with daily instead of COVID and the economy.

[royamcr]

It is never enough. It was time to go.

We also had over 2400 other dead military over 20 years. While it sucks it happened, what makes them any more important than the others?

[bb1961]

What about ALL the other countries that we have troops in...I guess you are the arbitrator as to which countries wr stay in and which we leave...pretty deliousional on your part.
What about his pledge to stay in Afghanistan until all Americans are out...that skip your mind??
Those pesky inconvenient truths
Just the fact you said "what make them more important then the others...you sir are beyond help

[royamcr]

America first, right? That is their problem.

Define all? Now all the sudden they want to leave when they realize this is actually coming to an end. Too late, should have started making plans a year and half ago.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by royamcr

America first, right? That is their problem.

Americans...their problem...WTF!!

[royamcr]

That is off topic anyway, the other countries aren't terrorist states. We have bases and presence in other countries for a variety of reasons.

I read your post meaning other countries having troops in Afghanistan, not our problem anymore.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by royamcr

America first, right? That is their problem.

Define all? Now all the sudden they want to leave when they realize this is actually coming to an end. Too late, should have started making plans a year and half ago.

Your lack of real world knowledge is pathetic...WHERE THE FUCK do you thing the 9/11 attacks were spawned??

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by royamcr

That is off topic anyway, the other countries aren't terrorist states. We have bases and presence in other countries for a variety of reasons.

I read your post meaning other countries having troops in Afghanistan, not our problem anymore.

No you seem to think you can make the call as to what is right to do...you and that PISSANT hero of yours make the most insane comment...like to Geogie Steponallofus...we won't leave until ALL Americans are out.
That was his promise...your memory is about as good as your hero the PISSANT

[royamcr]

Maybe they didn't want to leave. Or they waited till it was too late. The shit was gonna hit the fan if we didn't leave by the 31st. So then we deploy 1000s of troops again with all the equipment needed to operate. Then some get killed and it is Biden's fault. That's how it would have went. It'd be another 3-6 months before we were out. More billions spent. Trumptards would be criticizing why we are still there. It is a no win situation.

[ICU 812]

Time to go? Sure, it was time to go when Bin Laden assumed ambient temperature in the Obama administration . . .or even earlier under Bush 43. Yes, Trump waited too long too.

"But every hand is a winner and every hand is a looser" as the song says and to a large extent that is true in the real-world. Under any president, a phased withdrawal that covered or recovered our friends, committed local contractors and recoverable physical assets over months would have been a plan. One of the talking-head generals said so on TV a week or so ago. .; . . and was never heard from again.

Keeping Bagram as the final footprint would also have been a good idea, whether we left it too in the end or not. A novel idea might have been to officially move our embassy to Bagram, making the whole complex "US Soil".

For twenty years, the cards habe been the same. It all depends on how you play them.

[royamcr]

Biden was only president for 3 months up to May 1, the original end date. Maybe Trump should have had a plan and did some of the stuff you mentioned in the 12 months since the agreement. If there was any plan at all...there probably wasn't. If there was a plan our withdrawal from the region should have been pretty much winding down by the time Biden became president.

[rexdutchman]

Right the socialists at the WP cant cover the lying anymore