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Old 08-08-2021, 06:18 PM   #46
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You are correct on all counts.

Right now, 15 months from the 2022 elections, holding control of the House is in trouble for Democrats, and although the Senate map favors Democrats in 2022, it is way too early to make any serious predictions.

Except that some Democrats are making the same predictions and they are making them out loud.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/...022-elections/





Democrats could suffer a big fall in 2022 elections



“I am worried,” said veteran Democratic political consultant Neil Oxman. “Other than Trump, we have not found anything that makes us as outraged as the other side is about everything they talk about.” Without urgency and anger as a motivator, Oxman frets that Democratic turnout could tail off sufficiently to let the GOP win the handful of seats necessary to take over the narrowly divided House.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/550213-emmer-vulnerable-democrats-who-vote-to-raise-taxes-will-lose-in-2022



Vulnerable Democrats who vote to raise taxes will lose in 2022





https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/10189...r-democrats-in


Rising Violent Crime Is Likely To Present A Political Challenge For Democrats In 2022



And my personal favorite


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...-crisis-500726


‘We’re f---ed’: Dems fear turnout catastrophe from GOP voting laws

There’s growing concern — bordering on alarm — about the potential impact in 2022 of the raft of new voting restrictions.
I firmly believe all these issues will carry over to the Senate races. I don't see how they could not.


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Old 08-08-2021, 06:29 PM   #47
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And if Democrats even considering shutdown the economy again no matter how bad Covid gets, they will de signing their death warrants. Mark my words, the country will not accept shutdowns. Period. They will defy orders to close and go to jail if necessary. Why not, their business lives will essentially be over if we do this again which never should have been done in the first place and I think all the evidence backs that up.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:00 PM   #48
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And if Democrats even considering shutdown the economy again no matter how bad Covid gets, they will de signing their death warrants. Mark my words, the country will not accept shutdowns. Period. They will defy orders to close and go to jail if necessary. Why not, their business lives will essentially be over if we do this again which never should have been done in the first place and I think all the evidence backs that up.
The state governors have that responsibility. You make it sound like the Democrats were responsible for the shutdown in 50 states last year. Texas shut down. I couldn't go to the gym, get my hair cut, many schools were close to totally virtual, I had to wear a mask almost everywhere in public. Gov. Abbott did what he thought was correct.

I would hate to see a shutdown that comes anywhere near last year's shutdown. I doubt it will happen.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:19 PM   #49
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Except that some Democrats are making the same predictions and they are making them out loud.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/...022-elections/





Democrats could suffer a big fall in 2022 elections



“I am worried,” said veteran Democratic political consultant Neil Oxman. “Other than Trump, we have not found anything that makes us as outraged as the other side is about everything they talk about.” Without urgency and anger as a motivator, Oxman frets that Democratic turnout could tail off sufficiently to let the GOP win the handful of seats necessary to take over the narrowly divided House.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/550213-emmer-vulnerable-democrats-who-vote-to-raise-taxes-will-lose-in-2022



Vulnerable Democrats who vote to raise taxes will lose in 2022





https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/10189...r-democrats-in


Rising Violent Crime Is Likely To Present A Political Challenge For Democrats In 2022



And my personal favorite


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...-crisis-500726


‘We’re f---ed’: Dems fear turnout catastrophe from GOP voting laws

There’s growing concern — bordering on alarm — about the potential impact in 2022 of the raft of new voting restrictions.
I firmly believe all these issues will carry over to the Senate races. I don't see how they could not.


I agree that right now it looks positive for Republicans to regain the House. The Senate not so much. There are only about 8 Senate seats that are really up for grabs in 2022, and the most vulnerable ones are Republican by a slim margin. It is just too early to tell.

I found the Boston Globe article and one other interesting in stating that there could be a possible dramatic drop off in Democratic voters in 2022. Democratic turnout in 2018 and 2022 was incredible, as was Republican turnout in 2022. Without Trump on the ballot it will be interesting to see which party it impacts more.

Yes, voting restrictions might have an impact on the 2022 election and I am sorry to say that. Voting laws should make it as easy as reasonably possible for a legitimate voter to cast their vote. The statement you cited clearly says Democrats are worried that won't happen with the new voting laws in some states.
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:03 PM   #50
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I agree that right now it looks positive for Republicans to regain the House. The Senate not so much. There are only about 8 Senate seats that are really up for grabs in 2022, and the most vulnerable ones are Republican by a slim margin. It is just too early to tell.

I found the Boston Globe article and one other interesting in stating that there could be a possible dramatic drop off in Democratic voters in 2022. Democratic turnout in 2018 and 2022 was incredible, as was Republican turnout in 2022. Without Trump on the ballot it will be interesting to see which party it impacts more.

Yes, voting restrictions might have an impact on the 2022 election and I am sorry to say that. Voting laws should make it as easy as reasonably possible for a legitimate voter to cast their vote. The statement you cited clearly says Democrats are worried that won't happen with the new voting laws in some states.

They are worried that their propaganda won't work. It's a big ask but maybe if you have it at your fingertips with previous research, I wish somebody would provide a list of what is the most egregious "new Law" the Democrats are talking about and explain how it hurts Black and Brown voters more than White voters.


I already had this discussion with 1blackman1 in which I think I proved my point, I'm sure he disagreed, that you can "singularly" hurt a poor Black person without hurting a poor White person and there are 10 times more poor Whites than Blacks but that's when the "proportional argument" comes into play which I say is BS. 85% of all Americans, Black and White, agree that a voter ID should be necessary to vote even in a mail in ballot. More verification leads to less fraud. That is an absolute.


To this day, I keep hearing that the voter laws in Delaware, Joe Biden's state, are more restrictive than the present Georgia law. I wish somebody would prove it to me. I'll be more than happy to say I was wrong with the proof. Without it, I will not admit I'm wrong.


Minority votes are not suppressed more than any other. If so, prove it with facts.
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:36 PM   #51
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Minority votes are not suppressed more than any other. If so, prove it with facts.
they'll get laughed out of the court room if they say minorities are voter suppressed.
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:44 PM   #52
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If Trump hadn't been blasting mail in voting, he might possibly have won Georgia or some other state he lost. There were undoubtedly Republicans who decided not to vote by mail because of Trump's comments, and who then ended up not going to the polls to vote in person for one reason or another.

Now I'm not sure exactly where I stand on this issue, as you do have better safeguards against fraud when people vote in person. But Trump would have been wise to encourage his people to vote by mail.
Republicans probably did vote by mail. It was the Mail in Ballot that was most subjected to fraud. That was the whole gripe about Mail in voting.
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There was no fraud of significance. Stop saying stupid shit.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:15 AM   #54
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Well at least I don't get Banned for saying stupid shit. You've got that act Down Pat, lol.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:21 AM   #55
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There was no fraud of significance. Stop saying stupid shit.

1b1- Your patronizing, insulting name-calling is 'proof' only of Yours, and the DPST inability to carry on debate in a cogent and constructive fashion based on ides, Facts, Truth, and mutually respectful interchange of ideas. Your 'posts' Prove nothing.

No - I have no respect for those who use Insults and scatology to asset their own 'superiority' over others.



1b1- you have shown the ability to debate in a cogent and constructive fashion - I do hope You elevate your arguments from the name-calling, insults, scatology, and intercourse synonyms, and Join the Adults in Debate.
Unless One is deliberately 'baiting' other posters with such posts - and DPSTs are 'Masters' at 'baiting' other posters.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:26 AM   #56
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I agree that right now it looks positive for Republicans to regain the House. The Senate not so much. There are only about 8 Senate seats that are really up for grabs in 2022, and the most vulnerable ones are Republican by a slim margin. It is just too early to tell.

I found the Boston Globe article and one other interesting in stating that there could be a possible dramatic drop off in Democratic voters in 2022. Democratic turnout in 2018 and 2022 was incredible, as was Republican turnout in 2022. Without Trump on the ballot it will be interesting to see which party it impacts more.

Yes, voting restrictions might have an impact on the 2022 election and I am sorry to say that. Voting laws should make it as easy as reasonably possible for a legitimate voter to cast their vote. The statement you cited clearly says Democrats are worried that won't happen with the new voting laws in some states.

Gotta get HR-1 passed - and soon SR
DPSTs gotta get control of teh electoral process to ensure DPST marxist dominance over america as One party marxist Rule
Time is running out to :

Break out the re-education camps of your beloved dumb as a bag of hammers future POTUS AOC! -
Keep up your marxist DPST agenda - defund, disarm,destroy Police all over America
Hyperspend on DPST pork and engineering Peoples in DPST model to destroy the economy and independent thought.

Keep up teh lockdown mandates to destroy business and the economy
Censor and cancel culture all disagreement
keep up teh riots in DPST cities - it is not lack of IDs the prevents peoples from voting - SR - it is teh DPSRT riots destroying voting infrastructure
Keep up the Show of who the DPST party is and the marxist slavery it stands for!


That is teh ticket to sure victory in 2022 for teh DPST party - SR~!
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:40 AM   #57
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Well at least I don't get Banned for saying stupid shit. You've got that act Down Pat, lol.
Actually they allow, and to some extent encourage, stupid shit to be said, lies to be propagated, and misinformation disseminated on this forum, as evidenced by 99% of posts.

Now, saying something “mean” or “insulting” they don’t tolerate. So it’s the nice me from here on out. You’re brilliant Lev I so admire your intelligence.
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Why not put that sardonic, sarcastic, satire to constructive use

Like - kathy griffin, for example
Thank u - 1b1.
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Look up 'dark winter op / event 201 ' explains the control of the big lie
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Actually they allow, and to some extent encourage, stupid shit to be said, lies to be propagated, and misinformation disseminated on this forum, as evidenced by 99% of posts.

Now, saying something “mean” or “insulting” they don’t tolerate. So it’s the nice me from here on out. You’re brilliant Lev I so admire your intelligence.
Look at what's been going on since early 2020. A Pandemic, Lock downs, Mask Mandates, Social and Political division, Increase in Crime, Unemployment, a controversial vaccine. You don't think the possibility of significant voter fraud could be in the mix of all this chaos? I wouldn't rule it out completely.
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