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Old 07-20-2021, 07:31 AM   #1
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Default Is this 2021 or 1932? Flags and Tags

Flags and Tags in The Twenty-First Century

In 1935 my father left his family and homeland in Eastern Europe to live in freedom here in the USA. Why others of his family did ot also come is a story of complex family dynamics now lost to time.

In 1944 neighbors denounced my grandparents to the authorities for having an unauthorized short-wave radio hidden in the oven. It was forbidden to listen to news broadcast by the BBC in England, they might hear the truth. Only half of the extended family survived the war packed off to Nazi concentration camps. I was told that being liberated by the Russians was only marginally better.

The part of this story I'd like to focus on here is the
illegal radio and being turned in by people that you know. How is this different from the flagging and tracking going on today. Why is it becoming illegal to profess a belief contrary to the official position of the Government? If I say here or on some social media platform, that I will not get vaccinated until I feel confident about long-term side effects, will I get a visit from the Government? If I refuse to have my children vaccinated, will Child Protective Services put them in foster homes and vaccinate them againdt my will?

No, this is not the same as going to a death camp: This is not 1944. But things are moving in that direction . . .it might instead be 1932
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Old 07-20-2021, 08:22 AM   #2
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Great Post and point.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:28 AM   #3
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AOC alerady made her point about -re-education camps - publically - and teh anti-Semitic racism of teh squad and fascist DPST party is well put forward in their screeching speeches.



Yes - the corollaries and parallels to the 1930's national Socialist party are clear - the fascist DPST party uses it as a model for attempt to take over America and install their tyrannical totalitarianism.



ICU - thank You - good sir!
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:03 AM   #4
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Another point that is only implied in the OP is that the difference between the Nazi Party and the Communist Party is only that they didn't like each other.

In practice there is/was no real difference.

Oppressions is oppression.

Freedom is freedom.
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:12 AM   #5
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Great point , Oppression is oppression no matter what name you give it ,,,
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Old 07-20-2021, 10:45 AM   #6
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Great point , Oppression is oppression no matter what name you give it ,,,
Names like Conservatism and Republican. Agreed. Oppressive as they come.
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Old 07-20-2021, 11:08 AM   #7
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Oppression - as such as hannah-jones demanding segregation of the black People's from American society?
demanding 'equity' - buzz word for communist takeover and a stalinist tyranny.

The antithesis of MLK jr. and his civil RightsMovement , and Equality for All under teh law?


be careful what one asks for - 1b1 - , go to Venezuela and see the fascist DPST ideology in action.
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Names like Conservatism and Republican. Agreed. Oppressive as they come.
Totally wrong!
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Old 07-20-2021, 03:01 PM   #9
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They want a country full of Pavlik Morozov’s”

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/09/16/w...er-legacy.html
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Old 07-20-2021, 04:13 PM   #10
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How is this different from the flagging and tracking going on today?
It's not. They are morally exactly the same. The FBI is the Neuvo-Gestapo. But we're still in the the identify stage... You won't mbe made to wear a yellow star under the new junta... but they will have you identified anyway

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Why is it becoming illegal to profess a belief contrary to the official position of the Government?
It's becoming illegal because illegitimate rule CANNOT tolerate dissent. It must be crushed "by any means necessary." Oppose them they will label you as RAYCISS!, they will call you an extremist, they will "other" you in preparation for the next steps..

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If I say here or on some social media platform, that I will not get vaccinated until I feel confident about long-term side effects, will I get a visit from the Government?
Of course... Don't doubt that their is a DB somewhere of everyones SSN and Vax status. That's what the door to door crap is..

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If I refuse to have my children vaccinated, will Child Protective Services put them in foster homes and vaccinate them against my will?
Not yet, but it's coming... count on it.

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No, this is not the same as going to a death camp: This is not 1944. But things are moving in that direction . . .it might instead be 1932
No. It's definitely post '33 the J6 protests are the American Reichstag fire. The regime is moving to silence critics. The methods have changes slightly and this group wants international socialism not national socialism, but open conflict is on the horizon. That "great reset" stuff is no different than Mein Kampf. Totalitarians don't keep their plans a secret... they publish them because in their minds they are doing this for humanities good. The difference here is that this time the populace is armed... so it will be interesting to see how the big picture plays out.
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Old 07-20-2021, 05:56 PM   #11
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I haven't heard of ANYONE being arrested for disagreeing with the U.S. government.

I also have not heard of any federal laws being passed to restrict free speech.

While people may disagree, and try to shout each other down, I have NOT seen the Federal government get involved.

If you've heard or seen something different, please, post a link.
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Old 07-20-2021, 06:55 PM   #12
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TA - good points - the fascist DPST's do use the goebbels inspired national Socialist tactics of 1930's Germany as their model to impose marxist revolution on America. .

the difference in America - we will not permit the fascist DPST's to disarm Us.

While sswalwell and fiden speak of nuking Americans who refuse to 'obey' - the US military will think several times over about being ordered to obliterate American citizens - or a land war in Middle America against millions of Armed Americans fighting for Freedom!


let beta Beto Chipman, and their ilk come door to door to confiscate legal arms.from law-abiding citizens.

give them the warm welcome they deserve.

they are totalitarian socialists planning a marxist revolution - and they deserve Resistance!
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Last sentence 100% correct , Germany was to far gone by the time the people understood what was really happening ,,,,They were conditioned
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