Back the Blue — a Republican cliche? Or a talking point gone bad?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

Paid off in the long run, because if you needed help, there would be like six squad cars there within five minutes.

That's why some departments forbid "freebies" or "discounts"!

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Not a Police basher, but I wish they would spend more time on violent crime, and less on bullshit, like brake lights and other vehicle-related infractions. The rate of unsolved crimes is apallingly high.

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/24/178960...nce-fbi-report

I have called the Cops exactly once. On behalf of a Co-worker who was being stalked and threatened, in real time. Cops were on the scene in minutes, but they didn't catch the Criminal. We gave them his name, but they were too lazy and indifferent to pursue him. ''If he returns, call us back, we'll warn him that he is tresspassing''.

Gee, thanks Officer.

Why? Look at all the violent crime they spent time on in Houston, Dallas, etc and the DAs just let the criminals go? The cop aren't going to risk arresting people.

Quick story, my father drove home to find a guy stealing his lawnmover out of his garage. Struggled with him, lost the lawnmover. Got the guys license plate number. Police show up and they take my father to a photo lineup. He picks the guy out twice. Cops won't arrest the guy because he lives like two blocks inside another municipality.

Originally Posted by bb1961

WOW...YR banned again he's on a roll.
He won't be giving himself 5 stars for a while.
What handle does he use now when his HoeHummer handle is also banned, he needs a course in anger management.
Poor fella just can't help himself

Rarely used handles are popping up already. YR will unmask himself.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

In actual fact, despite all the press "Defund the Police" gets very few cities actually defunded anything. In fact I think that the Austin City Council were one of the few that did and they are now regretting it.

Mostly it's a talking point for right wing politicians to harp on. The truth is the police are getting the short end of the stick and it's not going to get better until someone tells the the progressive left that not all police are bad and they need to support the ones that they still have.

However the police will only get out of this mess once they reform their union rules to make it easier to get rid of those bad actors in the police ranks. It's simply too hard to hold police accountable for their bad actions.

You're kidding? New York City, Seattle, Minneapolis, and Los Angeles all cut back on police budgets and that's just from memory. Or is your fade "they didn't completely defund the police they just cut back or reapportioned?"

The number of "bad cops" is ridiculously small compared to the number of "bad criminals."

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Chung 100% on point , politics (McCarthy and his House Republican friends, are FRAUDS. they don't back the Blue, nor do they appreciate God and Church, nor do they care about deficit spending. Nor do they care about liberty, despite couching Covid vaccinations as a liberty issue)

And don't forget the crime rates skyrocketing do to the lack of Politicos backing police and rule of law

If by Politico's you mean Democrats, I totally agree but if you mean Republicans, this ridiculous notion that Democrats are pushing that it is Republicans who defunded the police, then put down the kool aid.


All those people last summer holding signs that said Defund the Police, were not Republican voters. This latest crime wave is because of Democrats calling for cancellation of qualified immunity, stopping police form being pro-active like Chicago telling it's police not to chase suspects on foot or in their patrol cars. I guess they expect the criminals to walk up to the cops and turn themselves in. Not to mention no bail reform and Democrat DA's not prosecuting criminals.


That is what is causing the latest crime wave and it's going to continue because Democrats have no answer as to what they are going to do about it, none.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

In actual fact, despite all the press "Defund the Police" gets very few cities actually defunded anything. In fact I think that the Austin City Council were one of the few that did and they are now regretting it.

Mostly it's a talking point for right wing politicians to harp on. The truth is the police are getting the short end of the stick and it's not going to get better until someone tells the the progressive left that not all police are bad and they need to support the ones that they still have.

However the police will only get out of this mess once they reform their union rules to make it easier to get rid of those bad actors in the police ranks. It's simply too hard to hold police accountable for their bad actions.

Originally Posted by gnadfly

You're kidding? New York City, Seattle, Minneapolis, and Los Angeles all cut back on police budgets and that's just from memory. Or is your fade "they didn't completely defund the police they just cut back or reapportioned?"

The number of "bad cops" is ridiculously small compared to the number of "bad criminals."

On a national scale very few cities cut their police budgets. Most cities increased their budgets. In fact going forward I expect those cities that did cut their police budgets to change course quickly. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...ice-defunding/

Look, I agree that police have a hard job. They get pretty good pay for it and a lifetime pension. A Study by the Department of Justice indicates that Police are living longer in retirement not shorter.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-li...ning-long-life

For this pay and pension I want accountability. And right now we don't have it. Qualified immunity and police union rules on arbitration block any real accountability.

The U.S. high court’s continual refinement of an obscure legal doctrine has made it harder to hold police accountable when accused of using excessive force. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...munity-scotus/

How Police Unions and Arbitrators Keep Abusive Cops on the Street. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...street/383258/

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

On a national scale very few cities cut their police budgets. Most cities increased their budgets. In fact going forward I expect those cities that did cut their police budgets to change course quickly. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...ice-defunding/

Look, I agree that police have a hard job. They get pretty good pay for it and a lifetime pension. A Study by the Department of Justice indicates that Police are living longer in retirement not shorter.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-li...ning-long-life

For this pay and pension I want accountability. And right now we don't have it. Qualified immunity and police union rules on arbitration block any real accountability.

The U.S. high court’s continual refinement of an obscure legal doctrine has made it harder to hold police accountable when accused of using excessive force. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...munity-scotus/

How Police Unions and Arbitrators Keep Abusive Cops on the Street. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...street/383258/

only the Democratic controlled ones that all were nearly burned to the ground over false anger over fake "racism" by glorifying criminal black thugs who resisted arrest.


will you take the TWK challenge? show me one Republican controlled city that is experiencing huge surges in crime rates.


we'll wait ..


meanwhile Portland, Chicago, LA, NYC and Detroit burn every day.


prove me wrong

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

only the Democratic controlled ones that all were nearly burned to the ground over false anger over fake "racism" by glorifying criminal black thugs who resisted arrest.

will you take the TWK challenge? show me one Republican controlled city that is experiencing huge surges in crime rates.

we'll wait ..

meanwhile Portland, Chicago, LA, NYC and Detroit burn every day.

prove me wrong

Well, Your statements here are highly racist. But here's the data I've come up with.

First of all of the 50 largest cities in the US only 11 have Republican Mayors. You can find it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Here is a Violent Crime Survey done by the Major Cities Chiefs Association which includes data for most of these cities. https://majorcitieschiefs.com/wp-con...st-Quarter.pdf

Fort Worth TX - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Jacksonville FL - No Increase
Oklahoma City OK - Increase in Murders
Fresno CA - Increase in Murders, Rapes, and Aggravated Assaults
Mesa AZ - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Colorado Springs CO - No Data
Omaha NE - Increase in Murders
Miami FL - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Virginia Beach VA - No Increase
Tulsa OK - Increase in Aggravated Assaults
Arlington TX - Increase in Aggravated Assaults

Note that this data is only from the first quarter of the year and doesn't have any historical data from 2019 or before. That said I think you will find that violence has increased across the board regardless of whether the police were de-funded or not and whether the city was controlled by republicans or democrats.

One thing is certainly clear however. Large Cities lean Democratic rather than Republican.

[pfunkdenver]

Well, MAGA gurl...you've been proven wrong. Bwahahahaha!

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

prove me wrong

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Well, Your statements here are highly racist. But here's the data I've come up with.

First of all of the 50 largest cities in the US only 11 have Republican Mayors. You can find it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Here is a Violent Crime Survey done by the Major Cities Chiefs Association which includes data for most of these cities. https://majorcitieschiefs.com/wp-con...st-Quarter.pdf

Fort Worth TX - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Jacksonville FL - No Increase
Oklahoma City OK - Increase in Murders
Fresno CA - Increase in Murders, Rapes, and Aggravated Assaults
Mesa AZ - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Colorado Springs CO - No Data
Omaha NE - Increase in Murders
Miami FL - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Virginia Beach VA - No Increase
Tulsa OK - Increase in Aggravated Assaults
Arlington TX - Increase in Aggravated Assaults

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

Well, MAGA gurl...you've been proven wrong. Bwahahahaha!

22% proves him wrong? guess math is racist too!

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

Well, MAGA gurl...you've been proven wrong. Bwahahahaha!

Not necessarily. Denver has it's crime problems, in fact violent crime in Denver has been on the rise even before the Pandemic. Is the Mayor of Denver a Democrat or Republican?


https://www.westword.com/news/denver...-2020-11768444

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Well, Your statements here are highly racist. But here's the data I've come up with.

First of all of the 50 largest cities in the US only 11 have Republican Mayors. You can find it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Here is a Violent Crime Survey done by the Major Cities Chiefs Association which includes data for most of these cities. https://majorcitieschiefs.com/wp-con...st-Quarter.pdf

Fort Worth TX - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Jacksonville FL - No Increase
Oklahoma City OK - Increase in Murders
Fresno CA - Increase in Murders, Rapes, and Aggravated Assaults
Mesa AZ - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Colorado Springs CO - No Data
Omaha NE - Increase in Murders
Miami FL - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Virginia Beach VA - No Increase
Tulsa OK - Increase in Aggravated Assaults
Arlington TX - Increase in Aggravated Assaults

Note that this data is only from the first quarter of the year and doesn't have any historical data from 2019 or before. That said I think you will find that violence has increased across the board regardless of whether the police were de-funded or not and whether the city was controlled by republicans or democrats.

One thing is certainly clear however. Large Cities lean Democratic rather than Republican.

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

Well, MAGA gurl...you've been proven wrong. Bwahahahaha!

have i? let's see. first txdot dude says only 11 percent of the cities in his "evidence" are Republicans .. so on the face of it that actually proves me right. butt let's take a deep dive shall we?



City Homicides

Chicago IL Police 134 Mayor Lori Lightbutt DEMOCRAT
Philadelphia 120 Mayor Jim Kenney DEMOCRAT
Los Angeles CA Police 96 Mayor Eric Garcettti DEMOCRAT
Houston TX Police 94 Mayor Sylvester Turner DEMOCRAT
Baltimore City 72 Mayor Brandon Scott DEMOCRAT
Detroit 67 Mayor Mike Duggan DEMOCRAT
Indianapolis 56 Mayor Joe Hogsett DEMOCRAT
Memphis 58 Mayor Jim Strickland DEMOCRAT
Dallas 51 Mayor Eric Johnson DEMOCRAT
Louisville 47 Mayor Greg Fischer DEMOCRAT
Kansas City 40 Mayor Quinton Lucas DEMOCRAT


there's your top 10. ALL DEMOCRAT. you really need to think before you post.. or gloat.


BAHHHAAAAAAAAAABAHHHAAAAA

[Strokey_McDingDong]

That which is H I M that is within me is enjoying that which is H I M that is within you.

H I M is The One Who Enjoys.

I am one who enjoys in H I M.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Well, Your statements here are highly racist. But here's the data I've come up with.

First of all of the 50 largest cities in the US only 11 have Republican Mayors. You can find it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Here is a Violent Crime Survey done by the Major Cities Chiefs Association which includes data for most of these cities. https://majorcitieschiefs.com/wp-con...st-Quarter.pdf

Fort Worth TX - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Jacksonville FL - No Increase
Oklahoma City OK - Increase in Murders
Fresno CA - Increase in Murders, Rapes, and Aggravated Assaults
Mesa AZ - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Colorado Springs CO - No Data
Omaha NE - Increase in Murders
Miami FL - Increase in Murders and Aggravated Assaults
Virginia Beach VA - No Increase
Tulsa OK - Increase in Aggravated Assaults
Arlington TX - Increase in Aggravated Assaults

Note that this data is only from the first quarter of the year and doesn't have any historical data from 2019 or before. That said I think you will find that violence has increased across the board regardless of whether the police were de-funded or not and whether the city was controlled by republicans or democrats.

One thing is certainly clear however. Large Cities lean Democratic rather than Republican.

The surest signal that the DPST/fascist brainwashed cannot tolerate a legitimate debate argument :



They go to their DEFAULT --- RACIST!!!!!!!
Thank U - Txdot guy.

[pfunkdenver]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

22% proves him wrong? guess math is racist too!

He said "show me one"...

He was shown a lot more than one, wasn't he?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

He said "show me one"...

He was shown a lot more than one, wasn't he?

i stopped at the "top ten" but i'm sure i can find more DEMOCRAT run cities to expand on. in fact, why don't you go find the first city with a Republican mayor and let's see where the homicide rate is in the rankings. i'd be surprised if it's in the top 20...




City Homicides

Chicago IL Police 134 Mayor Lori Lightbutt DEMOCRAT
Philadelphia 120 Mayor Jim Kenney DEMOCRAT
Los Angeles CA Police 96 Mayor Eric Garcettti DEMOCRAT
Houston TX Police 94 Mayor Sylvester Turner DEMOCRAT
Baltimore City 72 Mayor Brandon Scott DEMOCRAT
Detroit 67 Mayor Mike Duggan DEMOCRAT
Indianapolis 56 Mayor Joe Hogsett DEMOCRAT
Memphis 58 Mayor Jim Strickland DEMOCRAT
Dallas 51 Mayor Eric Johnson DEMOCRAT
Louisville 47 Mayor Greg Fischer DEMOCRAT
Kansas City 40 Mayor Quinton Lucas DEMOCRAT

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

He said "show me one"...

He was shown a lot more than one, wasn't he?

You have to be a vote counter huh? smh