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Old 06-29-2021, 10:24 PM   #31
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Apparently you're drunk but here you are a reposting of the link
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...y-rhetoric-and
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:39 PM   #32
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Apparently you're drunk but here you are a reposting of the link
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you are drunk on the socialist kool-aid. or at the least the the far left kool-aid.


which is it?
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:42 PM   #33
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Interesting how an "intellectual" can write a piece about one man while ignoring the similarities in the current President.


“Give Trump credit,” he continues. “He did his homework well and became the twenty-first-century master of divisive rhetoric.



So Trump was more decisive than Joe Biden who has declared war ( with the help of the far left ) on White people? Who has signed legislation that was just shot down by our courts as un-constitutional, to give Black farmers and only Black farmers federal benefits? That's not "divisive"? That's not pitting one race against another suggesting that the only way to remedy racism is with more racism? We have escapees from North Korea seeing what is happening on college campuses in America and comparing it to what they saw in North Korea only here it is color when it was class in North Korea.


To say that the number one enemy in America today are White Supremacist, when Black people are being slaughter by other Black people at a rate never seen before, like 63 people ( most if not all Black ) shot in Chicago by other Blacks, not a White Supremacist in the bunch? This is a lie of enormous proportions that will do lasting damage to this country, all inn the name of Progressive politics that Biden just happened to find in time to be elected. His rhetoric use to be "lock the SOB's up"! Now it's it's "give them all a second, third, fourth, fifth chance. So what if they assaulted a cop in their hast to burn down a federal building with other law enforcement in side or as Nancy Pelosi called them "storm troopers".


Joe Biden is putting George Wallace to shame with his racial divisiveness.



3. Both blame others and divide on racial lines. Again and again, Trump uses “racially tinged messages calculated to divide whites from people of color.”


Or in Joe Bidens case, he uses outright lies to divide Blacks from White's by supporting racist policies and supporting the teaching of Critical Race theory meant to divide the country into White Oppressors and Black Victems


4. Both relentlessly demonize opponents.

So tell me, if in a campaign speech, Joe Biden telling his Black audience, that his Republican opponents "want to put you back in chains" would qualify as "demonizing your opponent?


5. They unceasingly attack objective truth.

Like insisting that Georgia's revised voting laws were a return to Jim Crow and the Washington Post giving him 4 Pinocchio's for such a blatant lie?


6. They relentlessly attack mainstream media.


You mean a MSM that calls you a Russian traitor day in and day out without a shred of proof? And why would Joe Biden have to attack a media that covers up for him by actually banned people from media for telling the truth about his son Hunter?


7. Their attacks on truth include science.


You mean like having Big Tech censor anything other than government approved propaganda meant to cover for Big Pharma at the expensive of eliminated any other methods of controlling Covid than by vaccine when countries all over the world are using other therapeutics with success but can not be spoken of in America.

8. Their lies blur reality—and supporters spread them.


Like that "systemic racism exists" things have never been worse than today for Black people? Never?



10. They embrace extreme nationalism.

Or in the case of Joe Biden, destroy any attempt to embrace nationalism in support of identity politics meant to destroy any sense of nationalism like supporting an athlete that turns their back on the American flag.


11. Both made closing borders a centerpiece.


Yeah, closing a border over run by illegals that no other country in the world, all with laws against illegal entry, would put up with


12. They embraced mass detention and deportations.


You mean like the "Deporter in Chief" Barack Obama?


13. Both used borders to protect selected industries.


You mean like Joe Biden telling Putin there are 16 industries that he will not allow Putin to cyber attack before there will be consequences? Are all other industries free to attack?


14. They cemented their rule by enriching elites.


Elites in this country hated Trump even when his tax laws benefited them and everybody else that paid taxes. When you use percentage of income, of course people who make more will benefit more. Some actually said they didn't want that money but you notice that they never gave it back.

15. Both rejected international norms.


And for once we got a President to stand up to our NATO partners and insisted they pay their fair share. Guess what? They didn't like it!


16. They attack domestic democratic processes.

Like insisting you prove who you are with ID before you can cast a vote? What a radical idea supported by 80% of the country and yet Democrats fight against this, well, until Joe Manchin agreed to it and then suddenly Stacy Abrams was the biggest fan of voter ID. Go figure.


17. Both attack the judiciary and rule of law.

You mean like Democrats who want to pack the Supreme Court when rulings don't go their way? You mean like putting George Soros funded DA's in place that completely do away with the rule of law, returning criminals to the streets like a revolving door? That's respecting the rule of law? Is promoting open borders now seen as supporting the rule of law?


18. Both glorify the military and demand loyalty oaths.

That he never got! Worst dictator in the history of so called dictators.

19. They proclaim unchecked power.



That Trump also never got. Trump got shot down in court more than Jap planes at Midway.

20. Both relegate women to subordinate roles.

Like putting a woman on the Supreme Court?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynl...h=7701c127250e



Hundreds Of Women Have Lead Roles In The Trump Administration. 45 More Await Senate Confirmation.
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:43 PM   #34
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No, my positions have no changed in over 45 years. It is the GOP that has changed.
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:44 PM   #35
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So what flavor is today's kool-aid?
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:49 PM   #36
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Really? Care to provide some FACTUAL support to that? Of course not. Facts would probably confuse you
Nope Facts don't confuse me and either does the Truth.
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Old 06-29-2021, 11:01 PM   #37
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So where's the proof?
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Old 06-29-2021, 11:19 PM   #38
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Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.


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If you share my political policies, what do I care if you are a narcissist? I'm not voting for "Mr. Nice Guy", I'm voting for the person that will push the policies I want pushed and Donald Trump did that. The current President and I disagree on literally everything I believe in and I believe he is destroying this country. So I'm suppose to vote for this guy when he caves to extremists, Marxist's and he does it with a smile ? Naw, don't think so.
That's your right to vote how you like. No one here is disputing that. However as a Trump voter you have to take some responsibility for the result. Even knowing about his narcissistic tendencies you still voted for a man who is incapable of taking blame for anything, has no empathy for anyone but himself, destroyed our relationships with our foreign allies, pushed the big lie rhetoric that led to an attempted coup on January 6th and lied to the American people to such an extent that 40 percent of the country believe in a massive conspiracy to defraud the public over a stolen election with no believable proof of any kind.

Trump could have been stopped during the primaries but too many people wanted a reality tv show host who insulted and degraded his opponents instead of an actual statesman and politician who had the capability of running our country.
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That's your right to vote how you like. No one here is disputing that. However as a Trump voter you have to take some responsibility for the result. Even knowing about his narcissistic tendencies you still voted for a man who is incapable of taking blame for anything, has no empathy for anyone but himself, destroyed our relationships with our foreign allies, pushed the big lie rhetoric that led to an attempted coup on January 6th and lied to the American people to such an extent that 40 percent of the country believe in a massive conspiracy to defraud the public over a stolen election with no believable proof of any kind.

Trump could have been stopped during the primaries but too many people wanted a reality tv show host who insulted and degraded his opponents instead of an actual statesman and politician who had the capability of running our country.

as a Biden voter will you take responsibility?
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I'll take Biden over Trump. How's the Diaper man,s and daughter Ivanka's clothes factories doing over there?
Biden is the President. If you're so proud of Biden start posting all the Positive things about Biden and what makes him such a fabulous President instead of fixating on Trump who no longer is in office. I am no big fan of Biden. For the most part he isn't very inspiring, has poor leadership and people skills and above all he's down right stupid. Change my mind.
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And Diaper Don has people skills? And oh who said Neil Armstrong planted the US flag on a plant? All Diaper Don has done people wise is to humiliate and denigrate anyone who does not kowtow to him. Biden worked in the Senate for years reaching across the aisle to find common ground.
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as a Biden voter will you take responsibility?
Yes I will. If he does something I'm not certain of or something I don't like I'll gladly say it.

But there appear to be a number of people in this forum who seem to believe that Trump is some kind of God who does no wrong and keep slurping up his lies like pigs at the trough.

If you want to know one of the things that I don't like about Biden is his kowtowing to the progressive left. Senators worked hard to put together a bipartisan infrastructure bill (which I believe that this country needs desperately) and he failed to support it properly. Even if he walked back some of what he said if it comes to his desk he still need to sign the damn thing despite what some of those on the left have to say about it.
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Yes I will. If he does something I'm not certain of or something I don't like I'll gladly say it.

But there appear to be a number of people in this forum who seem to believe that Trump is some kind of God who does no wrong and keep slurping up his lies like pigs at the trough.

If you want to know one of the things that I don't like about Biden is his kowtowing to the progressive left. Senators worked hard to put together a bipartisan infrastructure bill (which I believe that this country needs desperately) and he failed to support it properly. Even if he walked back some of what he said if it comes to his desk he still need to sign the damn thing despite what some of those on the left have to say about it.

i've said the same thing about Trump. except he never did anything i disagreed with

the infrastructure bill is pork laden crap

all good Republicans should block Bernie's .. er Biden's every move

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i've said the same thing about Trump. except he never did anything i disagreed with

the infrastructure bill is pork laden crap

all good Republicans should block Bernie's .. er Biden's every move


Doesn't agreeing with everything his imperial majesty says and does imply a certain cult status.
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Doesn't agreeing with everything his imperial majesty says and does imply a certain cult status.



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