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Old 06-22-2021, 08:17 AM   #76
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...What is being done in Arizona does not meet the criteria of a "forensic audit"...
Because in your CPA world, one can only audit financials?!? Open your eyes and mind. Even a financial audit is after evidence of fraud, albeit in the books, as in are they cooked. So quit your Lawfare definitions. Shut the front door! BTW: That does not always mean that someone left the front door open.


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...Of oourse I deny the existence of fraud in the election since there is no proof of any...
I would expect Bernie Madoff, the boys at Enron and countless others said pretty much the same thing, until the audit was completed and the cell door slammed shut behind them
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Because in your CPA world, one can only audit financials?!? Open your eyes and mind. Even a financial audit is after evidence of fraud, albeit in the books, as in are they cooked. So quit your Lawfare definitions. Shut the front door! BTW: That does not always mean that someone left the front door open.



I would expect Bernie Madoff, the boys at Enron and countless others said pretty much the same thing, until the audit was completed and the cell door slammed shut behind them
And despite all of Speedy’s ramblings, 20 state delegations have visited the Az audit. With glowing reviews. But since Speedy only trusts the MSM, he can’t find it there. Not only are they fake news, but they suppress the news. Like Hunters laptop. Pa is very close to announcing an audit, as is Georgia.

If it’s proven that there was fraud in AZ, a majority of states will do a FORENSIC audit. The people will demand it. So, if there was no fraud, Speedy should rest easy. But, since so many people are trying to stop these audits, there’s something to hide.
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Because in your CPA world, one can only audit financials?!? Open your eyes and mind. Even a financial audit is after evidence of fraud, albeit in the books, as in are they cooked. So quit your Lawfare definitions. Shut the front door! BTW: That does not always mean that someone left the front door open.

I would expect Bernie Madoff, the boys at Enron and countless others said pretty much the same thing, until the audit was completed and the cell door slammed shut behind them
All I did was prove that your and others use of the term "forensic audit" in describing what is being done in Arizona is WRONG. So then we can talk about the "audit" that is being done in Arizona. You open your eyes. An audit requested by the Republican controlled state Senate, being done by a firm owned by someone who supports the conspiracy theories of fraud, using questionable techniques. Totally unbiased.
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And despite all of Speedy’s ramblings, 20 state delegations have visited the Az audit. With glowing reviews. But since Speedy only trusts the MSM, he can’t find it there. Not only are they fake news, but they suppress the news. Like Hunters laptop. Pa is very close to announcing an audit, as is Georgia.

If it’s proven that there was fraud in AZ, a majority of states will do a FORENSIC audit. The people will demand it. So, if there was no fraud, Speedy should rest easy. But, since so many people are trying to stop these audits, there’s something to hide.
What does state delegations visiting Arizona prove? Nothing! Like you they are hoping and praying that the Arizona audit will turn up some level of fraud that will cast doubt on the election results. As is the case in Arizona, they have no proof that any fraud existed within their states. None at all.
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The citizens of Arizona insisted on the FORENSIC audit. We are doing the same in Pa. The state legislatures are following the will of the people. I know that’s a foreign idea in the “new” Democratic Party.

BTW, your god, Nate Silver is a fraud. The HuFPo of all places said so:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/im-a-...b0d9ce6fbf69b6
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Old 06-22-2021, 11:24 AM   #81
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...An audit requested by the Republican controlled state Senate...
As you blithely glossed over; The State Senate is responsible for and therefor in charge of - managing and subsequently auditing elections. You should read the US Constitution and the Constitutions of the States.

Someone once said: Elections have consequences... Oops! There it is...
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Old 06-22-2021, 11:31 AM   #82
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a certain poster is saying the cyber ninja audit is wrong.

here's what Bernard Kerik, a former police officer, has to say about this audit.

https://www.newsmax.com/bernardkerik...15/id/1025217/

The Devastating Reality of the Arizona Forensic Audit

By Bernard Kerik Tuesday, 15 June 2021 04:31 PM Current | Bio | Archive

Democrats and the mainstream media have been aggressively denouncing the Maricopa County, Arizona election audit from the beginning.

At, first I didn’t understand why.

I thought that it was because they were afraid of what the results would be, but I now believe it’s something far worse.

The Democrats aren’t “just” afraid of the outcome – but they’re afraid that the audit results will be irrefutable and unimpeachable. They know that their efforts to discredit the audit process in Arizona will not stand up to scrutiny and here’s why.

The Arizona audit is being run impeccably, utilizing security and surveillance procedures with a longstanding track record of effectiveness.

To say that I was impressed after viewing the audit process for myself would be a massive understatement. I’ve spent decades working in security and law enforcement at the highest levels, and this is exactly the level of conscientiousness and attention to detail that I would demand for a sensitive or high-profile investigation.

They’re not trying to reinvent the wheel; they’re using the same methods casinos have used for decades to catch cheaters.

It’s common knowledge that casinos are exceptionally good at catching cheaters, and if anybody tries to pull a fast one during the Arizona audit, they face the same long odds of getting away with it.

Before a person can even enter the premises, their name must be on a pre-approved list. After winding their way through a maze of corridors, they arrive at a security checkpoint where their ID is checked.

From that point forward, visitors are escorted at all times by audit personnel.

After being briefed, visitors must forfeit cell phones, cameras, and any writing implements they might be carrying before they can be escorted to the audit floor. That’s why the Democrats’ claims of seeing auditors wielding blue and black pens are so implausible.

On the coliseum floor, the audit is conducted in several stages, each of which takes place in a designated area. The tables in each section are color-coded, and workers wear shirts with corresponding colors, making it easy for anyone to spot if someone strays from their assigned area.

At every table, there is accountability and supervision, all of it live streamed and viewable by the general public.

Just like in a casino, where “pit bosses” keep a close eye on a relatively small section of tables, there is an audit supervisor responsible for groups of two to three tables. If any problems arise or anything appears to be even slightly amiss, the supervisor immediately steps in to address it.

And just as casinos use high-resolution cameras in the ceiling to monitor every single table, the auditors in Arizona labor under the scrutiny of state-of-the-art cameras positioned directly above each table.

Every ballot reviewed by the auditors goes through distinct stages, starting with a simple count. One by one, ballots are placed on rotating stands in the middle of each table, and each one is viewed and counted by three separate people, whose independent tallies must line up. Each batch has 50 ballots, and once all of them are counted they’re boxed, sealed, and marked with the name of each counter, much like an evidence label.

The box is then taken to a locked cage until it is ready for review at the next station.

Next, the ballots undergo digital imagery examination, which is done at such a high resolution that it’s almost better than reviewing the ballot itself, because you can zoom in without losing resolution.

When I was there, one of the auditors showed me an example of a ballot that was flagged as suspicious because every single oval was filled out perfectly, without a single stray mark – something that would be easy for a machine to accomplish, but is almost impossible to do by hand.

After being imaged, the ballots are re-boxed, a new tabulations page is attached, and the box is sent to a different cage. From that point on, the ballots are kept under lock and key, with 24/7 video surveillance.

If every state performed an audit like this one after every election, public faith in our democracy would be absolute and unshakable.

The audit process being used in Arizona has accuracy, integrity, and accountability, and there’s no way to cheat because everything is captured on film.

Now that I’ve seen the process for myself, I finally understand why it has the Democrats so hot and bothered.

They know that if anything improper happened in the 2020 election, this audit will catch it – and they also know that they have no hope of refuting any improprieties this audit reveals.

Bernard B. Kerik was the 40th Police Commissioner of the New York City Police Department and is a New York Times bestselling author. Read Bernard Kerik's Reports
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Speedy won’t believe him. He’s close with Rudy!!!!!
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Speedy won’t believe him. He’s close with Rudy!!!!!
MediaBiasFactCheck told him that Kerik can’t be trusted.
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The citizens of Arizona insisted on the FORENSIC audit. We are doing the same in Pa. The state legislatures are following the will of the people. I know that’s a foreign idea in the “new” Democratic Party.

BTW, your god, Nate Silver is a fraud. The HuFPo of all places said so:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/im-a-...b0d9ce6fbf69b6
That’s not what the story said.

Try and stick with the truth.
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That’s not what the story said.

Try and stick with the truth.
What did it say?
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What did it say?
The article doesn't say what you said it did.

Did you read it? Did you read it four and a half years ago when it was published?
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The article doesn't say what you said it did.

Did you read it? Did you read it four and a half years ago when it was published?
It says his model had “strange” behavior and lacked transparency. Which means it’s fraudulent. I posted the HufPo because people like you and Speedy wouldnt deny it. I could post more on Nate Silver. But what’s the use. You buy it.
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