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05-19-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog1951
This will be fun:
"The speed in which it was developed is only a portion of what could be going wrong with this vaccine program."
Key work...COULD. Conjecture..not FACT.
"Vaccines contain a plethora of chemicals some of them are Heavy Metals such as Mercury, Cadmium, Aluminum just to name a few. The body doesn't mitigate metal compounds very easily and in some people it may take months for Aluminum to dissipate completely."
Not going to waste my time researching, but I presume you refer to stabilizers, preservatives, etc. Likely present in many other vaccines, injected medicines, foods, etc. All in small amounts. You allude to harm, but don't substantiate...again CONJECTURE. As pointed out earlier, the vaccines went through the normal approval process, only EXPEDITED NOT EXPERIMENTAL. The situation required expedition and may have paved the way to cut red tape in the future.
"When the Government gets involved with something such as a health concern and politicizes it proceed with caution. Especially when the administration at hand is full of incompetent fucking morons."
The administration in charge and the one that politicized the health concern was the Trump administration and you last sentence is accurate in terms of competence.
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Talk about conjecture. Your whole post here is steeped in it.
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05-19-2021, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: May 20, 2017
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
You know, maybe you should read up on how the vaccine was developed and what procedures they went through to speed up the authorization process.
Here's a fairly good article explaining the process. https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/20...ent-newsletter
You could say that the development and trials were on an accelerated schedule but they went through all the same trials and approvals as any other medication or vaccine.
I also am not making anyone take the vaccine if they don't want to. But I have the right to urge them to take the vaccine just like you do when telling them to not take it. The difference is that I believe the scientists and governments that tell us it's safer to take the vaccine rather than get covid19 whereas you seem to think there is a world wide conspiracy to get us to take the vaccine so that they can mind control us or chip us or some other god awful stupid conspiracy.
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It took the Biden junta to threaten people for not taking the vaccine. Something that the old meany Trump didn't do.
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05-19-2021, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog1951
"What's your point? Take the vaccine and save your neighbor, lol."
Simple point is that there is more to civilized life than contained in your simplistic comment. And it is not LOL.
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I know you're trying to prove a point but you're not getting to it.
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05-19-2021, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Feb 25, 2019
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
The reason for tossing the mask mandate is because ( my opinion ) so many millions of people got Covid and recovered, added to those that have been vaccinated an we have technically reached "herd immunity" but because the scientist wouldn't acknowledge that millions of Americans already had anti-bodies and didn't need the vaccination, we have arrived at the point at which we find ourselves.
I hear a report tonight about Bill Mahr and a few Yankee baseball players that have tested positive after having been vaccinated and a scientist said, not to worry, they will most likely remain asymptomatic and can't give Covid to anybody else. There are apparently, a few thousand cases like this but something like 13 have died that can't be explained like "they died from something else".
In other words, nobody is worried yet that the vaccine doesn't work for the vast majority that take it but as in all things, there are outliers.
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We continue to see eye to eye HF. Except when I've been drinking of course.
In the beginning of this BS last year a retired Internist friend of mine told me that when a vaccine is ready the world won't even need it. Some folks likely had COVID in mid to late 2019 and then those same folks got it again in 2020. Some folks never even knew they had it....yada yada the list goes on. Masks don't work yet CDC says to do it and even wear 2 or three lmao.
Anyways, Biden can GFH if he thinks he can force anyone to take a drug especially one with no proven long term side effects. Should high risk folks take it? Probably. But 80% of the population doesn't need it.
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05-19-2021, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
I know you're trying to prove a point but you're not getting to it.
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I've noticed you have no valid rebuttal to reddog. Just silly remarks.
I'm not surprised.
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05-19-2021, 07:54 PM
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"In the beginning of this BS last year a retired Internist friend of mine told me that when a vaccine is ready the world won't even need it."
Key words...Retired and INTERNIST. Not ACTIVE EPIDEMIOLOGIST. Probably a golf buddy "stroking" his and your egos. If you don't believe US medicine science at least consider world scientists.
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05-19-2021, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 25, 2019
Location: Des Moines
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Originally Posted by reddog1951
This will be fun:
"The speed in which it was developed is only a portion of what could be going wrong with this vaccine program."
Key work...COULD. Conjecture..not FACT.
"Vaccines contain a plethora of chemicals some of them are Heavy Metals such as Mercury, Cadmium, Aluminum just to name a few. The body doesn't mitigate metal compounds very easily and in some people it may take months for Aluminum to dissipate completely."
Not going to waste my time researching, but I presume you refer to stabilizers, preservatives, etc. Likely present in many other vaccines, injected medicines, foods, etc. All in small amounts. You allude to harm, but don't substantiate...again CONJECTURE. As pointed out earlier, the vaccines went through the normal approval process, only EXPEDITED NOT EXPERIMENTAL. The situation required expedition and may have paved the way to cut red tape in the future.
"When the Government gets involved with something such as a health concern and politicizes it proceed with caution. Especially when the administration at hand is full of incompetent fucking morons."
The administration in charge and the one that politicized the health concern was the Trump administration and you last sentence is accurate in terms of competence.
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You mean the liberal democrat CDC. Otherwise yes that's right.
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05-19-2021, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Feb 25, 2019
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Originally Posted by reddog1951
"In the beginning of this BS last year a retired Internist friend of mine told me that when a vaccine is ready the world won't even need it."
Key words...Retired and INTERNIST. Not ACTIVE EPIDEMIOLOGIST. Probably a golf buddy "stroking" his and your egos. If you don't believe US medicine science at least consider world scientists.
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wrong assumption, not a golf buddy. I believe my doctors. I do not believe media world scientists especially those outside the US.
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05-19-2021, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
I've noticed you have no valid rebuttal to reddog. Just silly remarks.
I'm not surprised.
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My so called silly remarks are in response to his bullshit comments.
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05-19-2021, 10:15 PM
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05-19-2021, 10:20 PM
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05-19-2021, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
Why? the chinese wuhan virus has over a 99% survival rate!
To be a guinea pig?
To get micro-chipped?
To get blood clots?
yeah get in line cuz joeys and fauxi told you so!
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to make money
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05-19-2021, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Oct 31, 2019
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Originally Posted by DTickler
We continue to see eye to eye HF. Except when I've been drinking of course.
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That might explain all the times you disagree with me.
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05-19-2021, 10:26 PM
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If you have access to PBS, I'd recommend watching a series called "Extra Life: A Short History of Living Longer" S1 E2.
It takes a while to get going but goes into the history of life saving drugs and does a deep dive into the discovery of Penicillin and ends with some interesting and fascinating news on how AI will speed up this drug making science. It gets into Covid too. Very interesting if you like this kind of stuff.
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05-20-2021, 12:35 AM
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Join Date: Jul 7, 2016
Location: Out and About
Posts: 521
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Originally Posted by bambino
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You're an idiot. There is nothing saying that they died from the vaccine.
The article simply notes that 977 people that have been vaccinated died later, but it doesn't even state that vaccine was the cause or even that Covid was the cause
Most of them were seniors and a third were over 80 and in poor health to begin with.
I've got news for you: 100% of the people who get vaccinated are going to die. EVENTUALLY.
Surprisingly, 100% of the people who do NOT get vaccinated also are going to die eventually.
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