John Hopkins University: Herd Immunity

[bambino]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

he didn't have any other choice. the whole thing was engineered to put him in a no-win scenario. so he went with the so-called "experts" and still got blamed for not handling it properly, which he did. since the US is a Federal Republic, the President has little control over the States, by the founding Father's design.


Biden would have been in the same position. remember when he said he'd order a national mask mandate under "Emergency Powers"? never happened. both unconstitutional and unneeded because Trump did what was thought impossible .. Warp Speed on the vaccine. which of course the DEMONRATS said was impossible, then said was "risky" due to the rapid development and now wonder why people won't take the vaccine for the non-death plaque.


of course if Biden (or Clinton) had be President none of this would be happening. the DNC's allies in China wouldn't have released the non-death plague. which of course Gates, Obama and Fauci planned. they would have eventually released it, when it suited their purpose.


in politics .. nothing happens by accident.

BAHAHAHAHA

[Jacuzzme]

Dem politicians are most happy when Americans are sick and dying these days. This is how low their politics (aka President Trump hate with a hearty serving of totalitarianism) has sunk.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

neither is Fauci based on his many waffles and toast comments.









this guy has more flip flops than Bernie before he got his lazy ass kicked out of a hippie commune


BAHHAAAAA

Apparently you know as much about epidemiology and public health administration as you do about ... everything else. Science isn’t a political campaign. They’re not flip flops, TWK.

But considering that Trump was the mastermind behind the vaccine, did you get vaccinated?

BRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHS.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Dem politicians are most happy when Americans are sick and dying these days. This is how low their politics (aka President Trump hate with a hearty serving of totalitarianism) has sunk.

That’s a lie.

Did you get vaccinated?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scottm...unity-n2589086

Johns Hopkins Doctor Dismisses Walensky Fear-Mongering: 'Most Of The Country Is At Herd Immunity'
Scott Morefield|@SKMorefield|Posted: May 06, 2021 8:55 PM

Dr. Marty Makary, a surgeon at Johns Hopkins Hospital, disputed CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky's contention that COVID-19 variants could set back the march to herd immunity from COVID-19 during a Thursday afternoon appearance on Fox News' "The Story."

Walensky on Wednesday called the various COVID-19 scariants, er, variants a "wild card" that could "reverse" the progress made so far.

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The CDC director said COVID-19 variants "are a wild card that could reverse this progress we have made and could set us back." Wednesday (5/5), Dr. Rochelle Walensky said that current vaccines "are protecting against the predominant variants circulating in the country."

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In an op-ed for the New York Post published Tuesday titled "Don’t buy the fearmongering: The COVID-19 threat is waning," Makary argued against buying into the "fear" that variants could "evade vaccines."

Look at the facts: About 57 percent of adults are vaccinated and approximately half of unvaccinated people have natural immunity from prior infection. That’s why US cases have been plummeting, down 31 percent over the past 18 days.

To put things in context, during the mildest flu season in the last eight years, there were 24 million cases, according to the Centers for Disease Control, and approximately 447,000 daily cases during its peak week. By comparison, we’re averaging 49,641 daily COVID cases. That same mild flu season resulted in 280,000 hospitalizations. By comparison, current COVID hospitalizations as of May 1 are 34,905.

Let me be clear: COVID is not the flu, and we should not downplay the risk among susceptible people. But for the millions of Americans who are immune and live where the cases are low, the public-health threat is now defanged and below seasonal-flu levels. Given the harm of social isolation, we need to abandon the goal of absolute risk elimination at all cost.

"Look, we’ve had dozens of variants and they’re all entirely encompassed by the vaccine and preventing serious outcomes," Makary told Fox News anchor Trace Gallagher. "So, we've got to be careful right now and not scare people. People need something to look forward to and if you look at the numbers, we’re doing well right now."

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dismisses CDC Director Walensky's scarients fear-mongering.

"Most of the country is at herd immunity."

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The Johns Hopkins surgeon went on to debunk the desire among some health officials, sometimes referred to as "zero COVID," that COVID-19 can be eradicated completely.

Well, unfortunately, we have this perception now that's being created by some public health leaders that we need to reach total eradication. We're not gonna get to total absolute risk elimination. That is a false goal and quite honestly it’s being used now to manipulate the public. We heard today again from our public health leaders that if we get to 70% vaccination, then we can start seeing restrictions removed. That’s dishonest. Most of the country is at herd immunity. Other parts will get there later this month. San Francisco had 12 cases yesterday, most asymptomatic. What do you call that? I call that herd immunity. And I think what's happening is our public health leaders are dismissing natural immunity from prior infection, which changes the path to get to more population immunity. It invokes mandates, it means kids may have to get it and it demonizes those that are hesitant rather than respecting their decision.

Blue-state lockdown-lovers drunk on their own power like Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer who insist on a 70 percent vaccination rate in order to ease up on mandates and restrictions are ignoring the science completely in order to hold their people hostage to an unobtainable, unnecessary goal.

Indeed, you don't have to have a medical degree to know that the formula for herd immunity has always been vaccinated plus natural immunity, but then again, when have Democrats ever been good at math?

Another bull shit article from Townhall. I think the surgeon is correct, we won’t have another big wave of infections, but the numbers are screwy. Half of unvaccinated Americans have already been infected? Bull shit. They appear to be comparing a number of people estimated to have had the flu, with the number who actually tested positive for COVID. Big difference. 24 million people did not actually test positive for the flu. Forty nine thousand people did test positive for COVID in a single day. Then they take the number of people hospitalized during an entire flu season and compare with the number of people hospitalized with COVID on a single day. This is a sloppy, misleading article, typical of what comes out of the MSM

[Yssup Rider]

Do you consider townhall MSM?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Do you consider townhall MSM?

I have no idea. You see the same kind of BS from MSNBC, CNN and Fox. The NYT and WAPO are usually somewhat more reliable. The WSJ on the other hand is the word from the Almighty, the gospel truth

I’m tempted to go to the NYT and see if the surgeon actually threw out these numbers or if Townhall totally made this up, like their hit piece on masks purportedly based on the paper by the two MIT professors. But all I’ve got is a mobile phone today

[Yssup Rider]

Fauci is an expert on infectious disease.

You are not.

I listen to him, not you.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Fauci is an expert on infectious disease.

You are not.
I listen to him, not you.

Huh? So you think Townhall is right? You think Fauci would think they’re right?

If you’re referring to me saying I think there’s not going to be another big wave, that’s based on IHME’s estimate that we’ll be going from about 900,000 deaths now to only 950,000 in September. Undoubtedly Fauci knows a lot more about this than me, not necessarily more than IHME. I have no idea whether the variants will bite us in the ass. Fauci would probably say he doesn’t either, although, yes, again, he knows tons more than any of us. Except Reddog.

[txdot-guy]

I urge everyone to get vaccinated.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Fauci is an expert on infectious disease.

You are not.

I listen to him, not you.

He's also a Globalist. I'll stick with Health Experts that don't get on MSM outlets and pretend they are giving sound advice which is what Fauci does.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I urge everyone to get vaccinated.

Woo Hoo!!!!

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I urge everyone to get vaccinated.

Agreed!

So does President Biden.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Huh? So you think Townhall is right? You think Fauci would think they’re right?

If you’re referring to me saying I think there’s not going to be another big wave, that’s based on IHME’s estimate that we’ll be going from about 900,000 deaths now to only 950,000 in September. Undoubtedly Fauci knows a lot more about this than me, not necessarily more than IHME. I have no idea whether the variants will bite us in the ass. Fauci would probably say he doesn’t either, although, yes, again, he knows tons more than any of us. Except Reddog.

I was not responding to you Tiny, but to DF. Sorry.

I think you know my opinion of Townhall. And of Dr. Fauci.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Apparently you know as much about epidemiology and public health administration as you do about ... everything else. Science isn’t a political campaign. They’re not flip flops, TWK.

But considering that Trump was the mastermind behind the vaccine, did you get vaccinated?

BRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHS.

and yet that's exactly what it became. a political campaign. who made it into that? Trump or the Democrats?


do you think the Demonrats (u know that's misspeeled on porpoise) would have used such vile treasonous partisan tactics if Clinton had won 2016 do ya?