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Originally Posted by LexusLover
It is "unrelated" to anyone who fabricates accusations.
Sometime in the past 10 years many deranged partisans began to modify our jurisprudence to accommodate the prosecution of "thoughts" without any factually supported activity to implement those thoughts into criminal behavior.
For an extremely long time beginning during the temporary agreement to join with the Russians to defeat the Germans/Hitler the Russians were attempting to influence political and social activity in this country, which warmed up the Cold War at times.
I can remember THE DAY that the Russian missile crisis came to a confrontation on the sea. The streets where I was living were vacant for all practical purposes. And it was quiet. John Kennedy was President.
What does that have to do with Gaetz? Rewriting history is not one of his talents or desires. In 2015 and 2016 there was only one political party "colluding" with the Russians. It's ridiculous to deny it.
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Is is one thing to exaggerate a bit, which I can overlook, but it's another thing to straight up gaslight. Was the insurrection on January 6th carried out by Antifa, and were the insurrectionists who weren't Antifa greeted as best friends by the Capitol police as well? Were the non-Antifa crowd all peaceful protesters? Was Trump the real winner of the 2020 election? Is the sky actually green, not blue, because of an optical illusion?
A Secretary of State should hold diplomatic discussions with just about any regime, short of an Al-Qaeda or an Islamic State, which is exactly what Clinton did.
What Trump did was heinous. He asked for and received help from the Russian intelligence services to benefit his own elections, and then spent his whole 4 years in office lying about Russia.
Strange, don't you think, that Trump never wanted any of his conversations with the Russians transcribed, even though that is standard operating procedure for the president. His own CIA gave him bullet points to raise with Putin on phone calls on more than one occasion, and he completely ignored them. His own intelligence services told him not to congratulate Putin on his election win, which was 100% a scam, and what did he do? He called Putin to congratulate him on his (sham) electoral win. In a press conference, he publicly accepted Putin's story over his own intelligence services that Putin didn't interfere in the 2016 election, even though Trump knew full well the Russians did, courtesy of Roger Stone's late night phone calls to Trump through Stone's contacts with the scumbag running wikileaks. I could go on and on, which if you call bs, I will, but the bottom line is Trump was Putin's bitch from before he won office until the day he was kicked out after one term.
What about the bounties that Putin was paying to the Taliban and maybe even Islamic State for the scalps of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. Did Trump investigate? Nope. Did the Republicans in Congress investigate? Nope. That's treason, pure and simple. If you want me to quote the definition of treason from its references in the U.S. Constitution and federal statutes, let me know, and I'd be happy to oblige.
How does this impact the Gaetz situation? Well Gaetz is a Republican, and a sizable percentage of the GOP went soft on Russia. Hard on China, but soft on Russia. That doesn't make any sense, for any loyal American to admit that China is a clear and present danger-which it is-and somehow think and say that Russia is lilly white means either that they're stupid, which I don't believe, or like Trump, they are willing to sell out America for political power. That's what Trump did, he sold out America to the Russians for political power, not on one occasion, but again, and again, and again.
Hopefully Gaetz hasn't made any back channel deals with Putin. Anyone who does is not a loyal American. Putin is, among many other things, a cold-blooded murderer. He should be indicted in the Haag and tried for murder in the International Criminal Court like any other garden-variety war criminal who has committed crimes against humanity.
