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Originally Posted by berryberry
Thanks - but you posting things like
13986: revokes 13880
really tells people nothing here as I doubt anyone knows what 13986 says or what 13880 says.
Purrito needs to spell them out and tell us exactly what each one does to prove his point
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The link to the Federal Register allows you to see the titles and full text, by EO number and with hyperlinks to the rest. I provided the EO's. You asked him to list them, they're listed and now you're changing goal posts. I have no love for the guy, just saying.
Let's be clear here. I read the EO's and pulled out that data. I didn't rely on CNN, or Fox or any other sites or aggregators. If you want to focus on volume of orders but not look at the actual content that is your prerogative but you have everything literally in your hands via smartphone to access the data. The volume of time we spend here says we have the time to read. And you wanting him to do what you also need to do is a bit funny.
Your assertion using the dictator line of logic and Biden "quotes" is a talking point which ignores context regarding how they are being used let alone the context of his original argument in the first place.
Purrito is doing the same thing but from the opposite position. And neither of you will find common ground or have a real discussion. Because neither of you took the time to educate yourself. You've had everything spoon fed to you with spin and won't accept the other side I'm any way.
Remember how people get upset about lawmakers passing bills without reading them or understanding the full content of them? Then finding out that there's all manners of shit in them no one expected and they only had cherry picked summaries?
Biden's dictator comments weren't about volume. They were about content and the limitations of presidential power and executive authority. What could and couldn't be done with executive actions. But once the sound bytes get co-opted and distorted you end up with discussions like this one where he leaves himself open to criticism on volume because no one wants to discuss actual content. We manufacture outrage simply by repeating talking points and spin. And instead of discussing the actual issues of the Trump orders or the Biden orders we're stuck on volume so we can compare Biden to Trump and... oh, shit... Carter must really have been an evil, power mad, tin pot dictator with all those EO's. Made Trump look like a lightweight on EO's.
I made sure to show the volume of last 8 admins on purpose. But I provided the link to the full, known tallies and to the FR itself on purpose as well.
Use the fed register. Pick an EO. Each contains links to each EO or codified regulation it references, amends or revokes. Then come back and let's have a real discussion. The fact that we collectively can't do more than a cursory dive into which hooker to see and want all the info spoon fed to us in that context too doesn't give me much hope.
There's a reason I'm not linking to the CNN and Fox summaries that I know you've seen and are expecting
