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Old-T · 01-08-2021, 12:34 PM

Then start with simple statements. I do not see where anything says he cannot run because he was impeached, and his base will see it as a badge of honor.

So educate me on this one.

dilbert firestorm · 01-09-2021, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Then start with simple statements. I do not see where anything says he cannot run because he was impeached, and his base will see it as a badge of honor.

So educate me on this one.

impeached Trump can still run if he wants to.

the senate has to convict him of impeachment charges which did not happen.

and they also have to disqualify him from office.

those are 2 separate processes.

Remember Federal Judge Hastings? He was impeached and convicted by congress, but they forgot to disqualify him from office. He ran for a house seat. I think he's still there.

dilbert firestorm · 01-09-2021, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smokedog01

There is precedent for impeachment trials after the accused has left office. In that case it would be a slam dunk. Sure, that doesnt protect anyone against what that lunatic does over the next 12 days but it does prevent him from ever running again. I do not think he's going to run again but it would be nice to take that option off the table.

please link on who that precedent was? I'm not aware of anyone being impeached after the accused left office.

oeb11 · 01-09-2021, 08:26 AM

Impeachment , lies of the DPST riots ( remember Seattle, Minnesota, Portland Oregon, etc - DPST's deny their handiwork) and Sheer hatred, Drama, and grandstanding for the DPST base - and making every effort to Demonize all republicans as enemies of teh socialist State of Amerika the DPST's ae already implementing.

What is the Efficacy of 'Impachment" - it is hatred for all things Constitutionl, Freedom, and Equal Rights - All anathema to the Marxist haters.

DPST coup criminals need a focus for their hatred - so - since they are already rife in the their LSM with comparisons of hitler and Goebbels - - I must say they are acting just like hitler - and demonizing a group to persecute to provide an enemy for their sheeplesto digest and an excuse for their move to Absolute control of their Amerika. Bernie, AOC, and Lizzie are so proud!!!.

Part of teh hatred is FEAR - those things that man is ignorant of - he tends to Fear - and those things that man Fears - he tends to hate - even though hatred is self-destructive . But the DPST corrupt leaership sees it as a way to capture and control their 'makeover of Amerika" - and have a 1930's model to follow to attain absolute One party rule and power!
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...lection-fraud/

The 'Big lie" - is the DPST marxist party - and the PR is aimed at forever identifying all political opponents with Trump - and setting up the Object of permanent hatred hatred and enmity for total destruction of all political opponents who refuse to kow tow to the New World order of teh DPST corrupt , venal, criminals who engineered their own coup on voter Fraud!

and - i expect to be One of those silenced - .

One thing - although the Capitol riots were engineered by DPST agitators and leaders - they have seen what they already call 'armed revolt" - and they are terrified of it. - so the anger, fear, and hatred of all Republicans becomes linked in the hatred of Trump - and biden has made it clear there will be no unity - that Republicans are an enemy to be exterminated - ala the 1930's model.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...555_story.html

the DPST wet Dreams seem to be coming true for them - it will turn into a nightmare for the Controlling Criminal DPST leadership - and all those sheeples who blindly follow their marxist pathways!

the DPST mantra - Hatred Uber Alles - the controlling and unifying mantra of 'teh' DPST party and message of what they will inflict on Their Socialist States of Amerika!

DPST crininal leadership - in their Lust for Absolute Power - is setting the stage for a revolt against their fraudulent adminstration and imposition of Marxist ideology!

Jam3768 · 01-09-2021, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oeb11

...the ... wet Dreams seem to be coming true for them - it will turn into a nightmare

The nightmare took place on 1/6/2021 oebbie

Grace Preston · 01-09-2021, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Then start with simple statements. I do not see where anything says he cannot run because he was impeached, and his base will see it as a badge of honor.

So educate me on this one.

If they can get the Senate to also convict and remove-- it does a few things....

1. Done properly-- it prevents him from ever running for office again. While I don't think the Republicans will nominate him again-- he can run as an Independent, and the Republicans know that will strip votes from them... meaning the Dems retail control in that scenario.

2. Done properly-- as in-- Senate impeaches, convicts, and removes-- he is stripped from all benefits that a President normally receives. Pension, annual expenses for staff/office, secret service detail-- gone.

3. Optics. While I feel the first impeachment was a colossal waste of time-- if Pelosi can actually secure the votes in the Senate-- it sends a message to the next person who wants to try this level of bullshit.

eccieuser9500 · 01-09-2021, 09:32 AM

"Article I, Section Three" https://constitutionallawreporter.co...01-section-03/

eccieuser9500 · 01-09-2021, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Then start with simple statements. I do not see where anything says he cannot run because he was impeached, and his base will see it as a badge of honor.

So educate me on this one.

House Should Impeach Trump to Keep Him from Running in 2024

July 24, 2020

https://www.justsecurity.org/71411/h...nning-in-2024/

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Most of us think of impeachment as a way to remove a president from office. But conviction after impeachment also brings with it another important remedy. Article I, Section 3 includes a provision that says the consequences of impeachment include “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office . . .” It is unclear whether this remedy is automatic upon conviction or requires a separate vote, but regardless, Congress has the power to bar an impeached and convicted president from ever serving in office again.

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PREAMBLE : We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution

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The 'Travis Translation' of Article 1, Section 3:

Clause 1: [Originally, Senators were chosen by the state legislatures, but the 17th Amendment changed it so people in the states voted directly for Senators.]

Clause 2: The Senate of the United States will have two Senators from each state elected every six years. Each Senator has one vote in the Senate. After the first election of Senators in the U.S., they will divide themselves into three groups, each picking a term of two, four, and six years for their first term so after that, one-third of the Senators are elected every two years. If a Senator leaves office or dies, the Governor of the State will pick someone to be the Senator until the next election.

Clause 3: To be a Senator, you have to be 30 years old, be a citizen of the United States for nine years, and live in the state that elects you.

Clause 4: The Vice President of the United States will be the President of the Senate, but only gets to vote if there is a tie.

Clause 5: The Senate gets to pick another President of the Senate for the times when the Vice President cannot be there.

Clause 6: The Senate will hold the trials for people the House of Representatives impeaches. If the Senate is trying someone on impeachment (to kick someone out of office), everyone has to swear to tell the truth. If the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice of the United States is in charge. But nobody can get kicked out of office unless two-thirds of the Senators present vote for it.

Clause 7: People impeached by Congress cannot be elected or appointed to another office. But if somebody gets impeached and then gets kicked out of office, he or she may still be tried before a jury for any crimes, like the law says.

Old-T · 01-09-2021, 10:03 AM

Thank you

eccieuser9500 · 01-09-2021, 10:06 AM

They swore the oath before. But now it's not a fuckin' joke! He is. The oath isn't!

https://fas.org/

CONGRESSIONAL RESEARCH SERVICE

Impeachment and Removal

Constitutional Provisions

Article II, Section 4

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is
tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to
Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

eccieuser9500 · 01-09-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-T

Thank you

My conservative cohort.

matchingmole · 01-09-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by winn dixie

Pure hate! This is just revengeful hate . What a waste of tax payer money! Hes only got days left. Pure hate by the dims.

Hate Brad too...