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Old 12-29-2020, 10:06 AM   #46
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Regarding the bold text, I am not twisting word meanings. I don't know how you cannot say that Trump has Socialist and Totalitarian tendencies, given his proposed $2000 handouts regardless of employment status or need, and given his attempts to overturn the election. Believing otherwise would be engaging in Orwellian Doublethink and Groupspeak.

Tiny - did you ever hear or read about Pelosi and Schumer - and an organization called Congress?
Congress brought forth the pork filled 'relief bill' - with scraps for the people affected.

and you blame Trump! i don't disagree with a $2000 relief payment for poor folks out of jobs and trying to pay rent - but not to send Millions to effing Pakistan and other Billions on pork in the DPST bills.

ah, ha, ah ha.
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Old 12-29-2020, 02:55 PM   #47
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The Senate led by Republicans also brought the pork filled bill. I suppose as always they are blameless in massive spending and sending money overseas.
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Old 12-29-2020, 04:26 PM   #48
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The Senate led by Republicans also brought the pork filled bill. I suppose as always they are blameless in massive spending and sending money overseas.
Both sides are to blame for the pork!
I do not support any stimulus bill. Just throwing money into the fire.
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Old 12-29-2020, 04:36 PM   #49
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Old 12-29-2020, 05:47 PM   #50
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jeff flake never had any back bone. its why hes an ex-politician.


mitts mitten is for all purpose a mormontard.
He also lives up to his name too. He's a fucking flake alright, lol.
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Old 12-29-2020, 05:52 PM   #51
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He also lives up to his name too. He's a fucking flake alright, lol.
In what way?

I hear you and your pals make knee jerk comments about people but don’t know enough about Flake to know what he did that was flaky.

Aside from opposing the piece of shit Trump. That doesn’t make him a flake.
It makes him a patriot.

What did he do?
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Old 12-29-2020, 05:55 PM   #52
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Old 12-29-2020, 07:16 PM   #53
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Tiny - did you ever hear or read about Pelosi and Schumer - and an organization called Congress?
Congress brought forth the pork filled 'relief bill' - with scraps for the people affected.

and you blame Trump! i don't disagree with a $2000 relief payment for poor folks out of jobs and trying to pay rent - but not to send Millions to effing Pakistan and other Billions on pork in the DPST bills.

ah, ha, ah ha.
Yeah, right. I think $10 million for Pakistan gender research is complete bull shit, just like you. It was something Democrats undoubtedly proposed, and Mnuchin and other Republicans accepted to get a deal. Granted, if Trump would spend more time governing the nation and less watching Newsmax and playing golf, maybe it never would have gotten through.

But just exactly how much more is Trump's and Pelosi's proposed Covid stimulus going to cost, compared to what was already agreed upon? $463 billion more. That's 46,300X more then the Pakistani gender aid.

Trump's acting like a petulant child, fucking up the Republicans chances in Georgia, because he's pissed off at McConnell and other Senators who won't support him in trying to overturn the election. That's why he threatened to torpedo the stimulus and omnibus spending bills, not because he's peeved about pork.
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Old 12-29-2020, 07:18 PM   #54
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In what way?

I hear you and your pals make knee jerk comments about people but don’t know enough about Flake to know what he did that was flaky.

Aside from opposing the piece of shit Trump. That doesn’t make him a flake.
It makes him a patriot.

What did he do?
He was one of last of the incorruptible, small government Republicans. This link is worth a read if you want to know more:

https://www.deseret.com/2019/8/13/20...ion-mormon-lds

Dilbert hates him because he hates Libertarians. Levianon on the other hand is more of a Libertarian than I am. He hates him because he suffers from TBS (Trump Brainwashing Syndrome.)
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Old 12-29-2020, 07:21 PM   #55
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Both sides are to blame for the pork!
I do not support any stimulus bill. Just throwing money into the fire.
Agreed about the pork! And I'm most of the way there with you on the stimulus.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:44 PM   #56
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And what is truly sad, is that probably less than half of all Americans will ever hear that $10 million to Pakistan for Gender studies, was in that bill ( because half the MSM will never report the cost of these give aways ) along with millions to Sudan who we are paying off to stop killing each other because it well, just looks bad to the rest of the world, that America won't fix this injustice in the world no matter the cost which seems to be how most Democrats see America, "it's all America's fault" and now we have to pay the price for our slave history and colonialism. I call bullshit!




I know, I know, you never owned slaves, never condoned it, have spoken against it and with your vote, made progress with regard to race, possible. But sadly, you were born White and the sins of the father, are now yours to bare. That's the message I'm hearing and I'm not buying it.


And I have sympathy for those White people who are waving their hands in the air yelling, "don't include me with them cause I'm down for the struggle and always have been" BUT YOU ARE WHITE, DEAL WITH IT! DAMN IT!


Does anybody think Rachael Maddow is complaining about Gender study aid it Pakistan, as being too much? I doubt it but I don't watch Rachael, so I can't say for sure, I'm assuming, but maybe if you do watch Rachael, you can inform me that she is pissed at giving any country, our tax dollars to further Gender Studies, something I would imagine she did a thesis on in support of and got a Ph.D in Gender Studies and should hence forth be called Dr. Maddow. And don't bother to ask Don Lemon, Cuomo or even Wolf over on CNN and do you actually think ( and can prove ) that Jeff Bezos is so pissed at this kind of spending, that it is on the front page of his newspaper, is it?


No, these spending abominations are not being reported any more than the burning and looting was covered by MSM. "Just peaceful protest here, nothing to report Rachael". "No Don, nothing going on here in downtown Portland, those crazy right wingers are just spewing fake news".


"News that is designed for you" should be, will be the slogan of future media. "Hey, we already know what you like and who you are voting for, so why not just listen to what you already want to believe"? Depend on us for what you "need to know" to further the causes you believe in like the necessity to spend 1 BILLION for a couple more museums.


https://meaww.com/covid-19-relief-pa...ashington%20DC.


Covid-19 stimulus bill to spend $1 billion for two Smithsonian museums? Angry Americans call it 'despicable'

"Who's going to the Performing Arts & Museums these days!? Give Americans the moolah for food, clothing, & shelter."




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Come on man, you know that comes before feeding people and compensating those whose jobs were taken from them by the government. You agree with that, right? Sure you have a right to know that but why bother yourself with the minutia, that's what we are for, right? "The MSM, we are here for you" ( and we'll tell you what we think, you need to know ).
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:58 PM   #57
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And what is truly sad, is that probably less than half of all Americans will ever hear that $10 million to Pakistan for Gender studies, was in that bill....
Yes Hedonist, the media pretty much ignores pork. I think Fox and Republicans are a little better than CNN/MSNBC and Democrats, but there's pork in all corners.

That's one of the things I liked about Jeff Flake. Flake didn't brook pork. In fact, he shined a spotlight on it with his report Jurassic Pork.
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The Senate led by Republicans also brought the pork filled bill. I suppose as always they are blameless in massive spending and sending money overseas.
Yes, of course they are blameless.

I believe tax and spending bills originate in the House? WTF is the expert on this. He prefers Republicans in the House and a Democratic president for this reason, because he thinks the Republicans won't initiate massive spending if the president is a Democrat.
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Old 12-29-2020, 10:13 PM   #59
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Excellent! Sean Penn is supposed to be Donald Trump, right? Now that the inner Socialist in The Donald has awoken, maybe he and Sean can hang out together. They can vacation together in Sean's favorite place, Venezuela. They can hang out with the Chavistas and chase poontang together. They've got a lot of drop dead beautiful women there and right now they must be incredibly cheap to bang.
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In what way?

I hear you and your pals make knee jerk comments about people but don’t know enough about Flake to know what he did that was flaky.

Aside from opposing the piece of shit Trump. That doesn’t make him a flake.
It makes him a patriot.

What did he do?
You tell me since you know all about him. He's definitely no Patriot. A true Patriot believes in his country, supports it and defends it. A Patriot doesn't try to rearrange his country. Now by that definition there are few Patriots in Congress. Hating the President doesn't make someone a Patriot.
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