The Democrat in the Whitehouse

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yeah, when the majority of your countrymen are either strong supporters of Donald Trump or the Sanders/AOC/Warren coalition, it's time to think about moving. It's like we're in a "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" moment, before the long decline of the Roman empire. And Trump is Nero.

I used that same analogy recently and I really believe it. Between our own in fighting, what looks to me like a Chinese Cultural Revolution that ends badly and China right there to pick up the pieces, quite the irony there I would think, I think the decline officially begins. States like California, already losing it's tax base as is New York, will now be overrun with "legal" immigrants ending up with no middle class, only the very rich in Pelosi like compounds and millions of street people wondering around like in the zombie movies.


I see on the news a Mexican smuggler walking with 4 children under the age of 10 and when border patrol starts approaching, he flees, leaving the children wet and bewildered.


Our new immigration policy says that no un-accompanied child can be detained much less deported so take a guess as to who our new arrivals will be and 30 to 40% of them come with Covid.


Yeah, this is all going to work out just fine.


AND I repeat, nobody should get a dime of money that didn't personally lose a job, or a business owner that lost a business and can prove the lose was do to government orders to shutdown.


Rome may have suffered through a devastating plague but that isn't why it fell and I doubt history will record our fall because of a pandemic, it will be because stupidity.


And anybody that thinks this Democrat party is going to stop this fall instead of accelerate it, is naive at best.


So yeah, how about in 2024 we pick a real fiscal Conservative with no concern what so ever over gender issues in Pakistan for God's sake.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by bf0082

Can I kindly ask a simple question.... The orange cheeto cut taxes, created a large deficit during a booming economy, wouldnt let the fed raise interest rates and tweeted daily how great he was at running the USA according to the DOW.

Why did none of you care when he did it, not one mention of debt ceiling, no government shut down talk.... Why is it ok for the GOP to overspend and run up the deficits, but as soon as democrat comes in, its tighten the wallet, no spending, bad democrats and debt ceilings, government shut downs.... we did this already for 6 years of Obama's terms.

The too big to fail socialist republicans, event 1, george w bush and now event 2 with donald trump... pumping dollars into businesses and into the economy to prevent a total collapse. You Republicans cheer these Socialist leaders on blindly because Fox News says to.

Obama had 2 years to ban your guns, and he didnt... he went with universal Romney Care for all...

Problem is most Republicans are too stupid to see the hypocrisy and too dumb to create their own thoughts and opinions, they just follow the headlines on their favorite fox news show.

There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around among the Democrats. Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, and even Fareed Zakaria can be just as biased as the people at Fox. Same with the deficit. As WTF has wisely pointed out, when you put one party in control of the presidency, Senate and House, the spending goes crazy. So why wasn't Obama out of control for 6 years of his presidency? Why was it only two years? Because Democrats didn't control both the House and the Senate during those 6 years.

That said, yes, the Republicans did a very poor job controlling the spending when they were completely in control during the first two years of Bush's and Trump's presidencies.

This is why it's important the Republicans win in Georgia, to serve as a counterbalance to the House and Biden.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

AND I repeat, nobody should get a dime of money that didn't personally lose a job, or a business owner that lost a business and can prove the lose was do to government orders to shutdown.


Rome may have suffered through a devastating plague but that isn't why it fell and I doubt history will record our fall because of a pandemic, it will be because stupidity.


And anybody that thinks this Democrat party is going to stop this fall instead of accelerate it, is naive at best.


So yeah, how about in 2024 we pick a real fiscal Conservative with no concern what so ever over gender issues in Pakistan for God's sake.

Agreed, no handouts to people who aren't actually in need. And yes, we need more true believers in smaller government, and fewer big government Republicans.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by bf0082

Can I kindly ask a simple question.... The orange cheeto cut taxes, created a large deficit during a booming economy, wouldnt let the fed raise interest rates and tweeted daily how great he was at running the USA according to the DOW.

Why did none of you care when he did it, not one mention of debt ceiling, no government shut down talk.... Why is it ok for the GOP to overspend and run up the deficits, but as soon as democrat comes in, its tighten the wallet, no spending, bad democrats and debt ceilings, government shut downs.... we did this already for 6 years of Obama's terms.

The too big to fail socialist republicans, event 1, george w bush and now event 2 with donald trump... pumping dollars into businesses and into the economy to prevent a total collapse. You Republicans cheer these Socialist leaders on blindly because Fox News says to.

Obama had 2 years to ban your guns, and he didnt... he went with universal Romney Care for all...

Problem is most Republicans are too stupid to see the hypocrisy and too dumb to create their own thoughts and opinions, they just follow the headlines on their favorite fox news show.

Sure, it would be much better if we all watched CNN and MSDNC and read the Times and Post everyday. We all get on board with cancel culture, make lists of every person that voted for Trump and strip them of their ability to earn a living, concentrate on Russia and forget about China, throw open the border, open the prisons, reparations! Yeah! That's the ticket!


All will be better with Trump gone and the network too that told you day one that there was no Russia conspiracy, that Adam Schitt for brains was lying to you, the deep state at the FBI and DOJ were conspiring to not only resist the new President but impeach him for some supposed quid pro quo with Ukraine when it was Biden that bragged about his quid pro quo and the FBI changing the words of official documents which we were told by said Schitt for brains, never happened. The only network that told you that Hunter's laptop was not Russian disinformation, the only network willing to interview Bobulinski, the man that can corroborate what is on Hunter's laptop, that the BIG GUY ( Joe Biden ) was in Hunter's business up to his eyeballs. The network willing to investigate Eric Swalwell and his handler, Nancy Pelosi who made a valiant attempt to put her Manchurian Candidate in the White House and not just the US Congress Intelligence Committee.



Yeah, lets get rid of any media willing to hold the Democrat party accountable and let them run wild! That should turn out just fine, right?

[oeb11]

Georgia Falls - it is the last free election ever in America!

[Redhot1960]

Originally Posted by Tiny

If President Trump wanted taxpayers to pony up to help people put out of work or kicked out of their homes because of Covid, that would make sense. But his threat today that he'll veto the stimulus bill unless the government pays $2,000 to everyone regardless of employment status or need reeks of DPST* socialism. It was painful watching Rand Paul and Marsha Blackburn on Fox this morning trying to defend Trump. They rightly pointed out that Congress shouldn't be passing bills with lots of pork for things like museums when many Americans are on their knees. But they insisted on dancing around the real reason that Trump's threatening a veto. It's because he's a Democrat. He's working with the same playbook as Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The $2000 was originally their idea.

Then there's the defense bill, that Trump actually vetoed today, because it didn't include a provision to repeal a law that shields internet companies from liability for what's posted on their websites by third parties. That's a big make-work handout to the trial lawyers. And who's the great friend of the plaintiffs lawyers? The Democratic Party of course. And Donald Trump's a good friend too. Before he became president he loved to sue people.

Finally there are other considerations from the past. The massive campaign contributions to Democratic Party politicians. Trump's support of a wealth tax and partial birth abortion. His membership in the Democratic Party. And more recently, proposing to increase the top marginal federal tax rate on Americans to 47.8% as a part of his 2017 tax bill.

I don't understand why most of the esteemed left-of-center posters here hate Trump. Donald Trump is a great friend to the Democratic Party, and his latest antics appear to be a ploy to lose the Georgia Senate elections and turn all the levers of the federal government over to Biden, Schumer and Pelosi.




*DPST = Dip Shit / Politician / Shithead / Transvestite

Same reason why we don't understand why a Bernie-Bro became a neocon and vote straight republican except PDJT, Tiny

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Georgia Falls - it is the last free election ever in America!

Georgia won't fall, oeb11.

Georgia will RISE UP and help America out of the darkness.

Two more years, virus depending, we'll have fixed much of the damage done by Trump and his reich. Some of it won't be so easy to fix.

I think Trump should devote a portion of his massive PAC fundraising haul to finding the parents of those lost kids still in detention and making it right for those families.

Fuck. He ought to give them all golf memberships too!

[bf0082]

I don't watch cnn or msnbc, i don't get my news from anywhere. I don't need or have a desire to fuel conspiracy theories and choose to keep on keepin on, since my life has no affect which person runs the white house and which person or group controls the congress.... tyvm... sitting back listening to the poor complain about the other poor is truly what the wealthy want. The majority of Americans are too busy focusing on race and who gets what, letting the wealthy continue to do business as usual... you are all a bunch of puppets while the richest americans pull your strings

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by bf0082

I don't watch cnn or msnbc, i don't get my news from anywhere. I don't need or have a desire to fuel conspiracy theories and choose to keep on keepin on, since my life has no affect which person runs the white house and which person or group controls the congress.... tyvm... sitting back listening to the poor complain about the other poor is truly what the wealthy want. The majority of Americans are too busy focusing on race and who gets what, letting the wealthy continue to do business as usual... you are all a bunch of puppets while the richest americans pull your strings

I'm running down a list of the wealthiest Americans. Without them, or in a couple of cases a father or a husband, there would be no Amazon, no Tesla, no Space X, no Microsoft, no Facebook, no Google, No Oracle, No Walmart, no Koch Industries anywhere near the size it is today, no Dell computer, and no Apple Computer. They've brought a lot of jobs and prosperity to America. They're very smart, driven, hard working people who pay much, much more than their fair share of taxes.

It's the politicians and some of the bureaucrats who are the puppet masters. They control us. We are their slaves.

If you don't like capitalists you can always go someplace else. Except that the only places left are Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea. The rest of the world discovered through trial and error that capitalism is far superior to the alternatives.

[oeb11]

just wait - AOC will tax all corporations and wealthy out of existence in America
welcome to russia, china, and Venezuela - DPST's.



your heroine AOC is dumber than a socialist bag of hammers - and those who believe in her ideology are the same!


'teh'

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yes, What are we doing wasting 10 million on gender programs in Pakistan? What are Congressional leaders doing unleashing a 5000 or 6000 page piece of legislation on members at the last minute? So they can, as Nancy Pelosi famously said, pass the bill so they can know what's in it?

We both decry waste. And many Americans could use more money. But think about the numbers. Say 250 million Americans qualify for a $2000 payment. That's $500 billion! That's almost the entire federal deficit in a good year. Better to target help to the unemployed and those truly in need instead of writing $2000 checks with Donald Trump's signature at the bottom and sending them to everyone.

The $2000 check will only be given to people who made less than $75,000 for tax return year of 2018 or 2019. This direct payment is to encourage spending and stimulate the economy. If you did not file a tax return in 2018 or 2019 you will not get the $2000 check. I don't have a problem with that. The other pork should be removed from this bill.

I don't agree with you that Trump is a democrat now. Trump was a democrat twenty years ago. He even invited Bill and HRC to his wedding to Melania. If Trump was a democrat now he would not have tried to repeal the ACA. He would not have lowered the corporate tax rate fifteen percentage points. Trump is definitely more right of center than left of center. Trump may not be as conservative as Senator Ted Cruz but he is no democrat.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by oeb11

just wait - AOC will tax all corporations and wealthy out of existence in America
welcome to russia, china, and Venezuela - DPST's.



your heroine AOC is dumber than a socialist bag of hammers - and those who believe in her ideology are the same!


'teh'

Where did anyone mention his hero was AOC?

Do you have anything solid to back that up?

Or are you simply putting words in others mouths again?

That’s how you stand out from the crowd, even in his hive of scum and villainy!

Keep working those Golden Lips, DOTY! You are the second to receive the Labbra d’Oro.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by bf0082

I don't watch cnn or msnbc, i don't get my news from anywhere.



Yeah, I kinda figured that.



I don't need or have a desire to fuel conspiracy theories



Except when it comes to Fox news apparently.


and choose to keep on keepin on, since my life has no affect which person runs the white house and which person or group controls the congress.... tyvm... sitting back listening to the poor complain about the other poor is truly what the wealthy want. The majority of Americans are too busy focusing on race and who gets what, letting the wealthy continue to do business as usual... you are all a bunch of puppets while the richest americans pull your strings

Says the guy who doesn't get his news from anywhere.

[oeb11]

HF - Amen!!!
Typical DPST.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by oeb11

just wait - AOC will tax all corporations and wealthy out of existence in America
welcome to russia, china, and Venezuela - DPST's.



your heroine AOC is dumber than a socialist bag of hammers - and those who believe in her ideology are the same!


'teh'

I still want to breed with her. After she's had a taste of little Tiny, she'll quit jacking around with the socialist bull shit and finally live a happy, contented life, barefoot and pregnant.