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Old 09-15-2020, 03:15 PM   #406
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And just who determines the "going rate". Everyone is free to set their own rate. The fact is there used to be a number of 20-30 year olds available in Pittsburgh at fair prices with just hobby board credentials required. Today there is not - just an example of what nearly every guy has said about the state of the Pittsburgh hobby - it is quite bad in terms of options guys are looking for.

And as far as being discussed in public forums, good providers should have nothing to hide or worry about as no one is unkind to them. In fact, good providers can gain more business from positive press on public forums. It is only the bad providers who are the ones who dislike and complain about public forums as they are called out here for what they are.
The provider determines the going rate.

Forums are all fine and good if you are communicating factual information. I’m all for that!
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:19 PM   #407
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Is anyone really shocked that there aren’t a plethora of 20-30 year old available, reliable providers willing to take less than the going rate and no screening at your beck and call, in Pittsburgh?

Especially if they have read the way “we” are discussed in public forums.

Well at least you used client instead of hobbyist. (Proud)

Baby steps ...

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Maybe berry missed this post as it addresses his concerns.
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:55 PM   #408
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The 20-30 year old providers in Pittsburgh have always been there. Always will be there but they don't advertise. You have to be in the inner circle. The elite providers have outdated the internet boards the twitters and social media movements and they will outlast them all because they are paid well enough to not be hunting appointments.

There are a handful of guys that know what I'm talking about and a hundred that wish they did. You get what you pay for gentlemen.
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Old 09-15-2020, 10:39 PM   #409
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I don't know what you are taking about Tukahoe1. Please explain in further detail. I mean, you haven't posted a single review here even though you been here 3 years longer than me.
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:39 AM   #410
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The provider determines the going rate.

Forums are all fine and good if you are communicating factual information. I’m all for that!
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No - each provider determines her "own" rate. And each hobbyist decides whether the amount she is asking is worth it or not. There is no standard "going rate". The strong arm days of Indys and Local 250 are past.

And factual information, good and bad is what this site is all about. It is what guys share here. And that sharing of factual info is why Eccie Pittsburgh grew over the years while Indys (which did not like factual info, especially if it was negative) declined til failing
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:45 AM   #411
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Maybe berry missed this post as it addresses his concerns.
Nope, you just posted this to try and stir up shit like you normally do.

You know I didn't miss that post as I responded to it

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...&postcount=399
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:52 AM   #412
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The 20-30 year old providers in Pittsburgh have always been there. Always will be there but they don't advertise. You have to be in the inner circle. The elite providers have outdated the internet boards the twitters and social media movements and they will outlast them all because they are paid well enough to not be hunting appointments.

There are a handful of guys that know what I'm talking about and a hundred that wish they did. You get what you pay for gentlemen.
Says the guy with zero reviews and no contributions of hofo in 4+ years and nothing else to back up his assertion

We are not talking about the unicorn on SA who has a couple sugar daddies. Those aren't providers. We are talking providers who are generally available in the hobby and thus who generally advertise. And except for a rare exception, those 20-30 year old hotties just are not in Pittsburgh like in the past
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Old 09-16-2020, 04:02 AM   #413
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Says the guy with zero reviews and no contributions of hofo in 4+ years and nothing else to back up his assertion

We are not talking about the unicorn on SA who has a couple sugar daddies. Those aren't providers. We are talking providers who are generally available in the hobby and thus who generally advertise. And except for a rare exception, those 20-30 year old hotties just are not in Pittsburgh like in the past
In today’s hobby world...... Post Fosta and SA and Covid, the ONLY option for the kind of girl you want (other then sa) is the large agencies, and that will be 400 a meet with heavy screening.
You gotta pick your poison Berry. It ain’t 2010.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:07 AM   #414
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The 20-30 year old providers in Pittsburgh have always been there. Always will be there but they don't advertise. You have to be in the inner circle. The elite providers have outdated the internet boards the twitters and social media movements and they will outlast them all because they are paid well enough to not be hunting appointments.

There are a handful of guys that know what I'm talking about and a hundred that wish they did. You get what you pay for gentlemen.
Thanks for the 'almost useful' information.

I guess I'm not in the inner circle. Is there a membership fee? Regular meetings? Secret clubhouse?
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:13 AM   #415
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I've never posted a review and I never will. The guys that do all the posting might account for 2-3% of the hobby in any particular area. There is nothing new about that it is the way it has always been big posters and big reviewers do not equal great clients. Just like the providers that have the biggest post count don't equal the best providers.
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:16 PM   #416
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Please explain your process for procuring providers with no listings, Tuckahoe1. I am very interested how you do it, especially when large gatherings are restricted due to lockdowns.
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:34 PM   #417
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I've never posted a review and I never will. The guys that do all the posting might account for 2-3% of the hobby in any particular area. There is nothing new about that it is the way it has always been big posters and big reviewers do not equal great clients. Just like the providers that have the biggest post count don't equal the best providers.
Straw man argument. Nobody claimed the "best" clients or providers post a lot on here. Like many hobbyists/providers, you have self-esteem issues. Only difference is you try to alleviate them by telling yourself you're better than the rest of us.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:08 PM   #418
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Straw man argument. Nobody claimed the "best" clients or providers post a lot on here. Like many hobbyists/providers, you have self-esteem issues. Only difference is you try to alleviate them by telling yourself you're better than the rest of us.
It sounds like he lucked into an UTR girl or bought into XOC or city-girls when they were open. Good for him. But he wants us to think he's part of some kind of Eyes Wide Shut bullshit going on in Pittsburgh.
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:23 PM   #419
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His location says Tennessee.
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I believe he is referring to agencies that do not advertise on the web.
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