Bob Woodward new book "Rage"

[nevergaveitathought]

its leftists looking at innocence and projecting into it the worst possible interpretation

why? because they hate and their friends and neighbors and co-workers and people they want to be admired by and acquaintances hate and the hatred affects their thinking and the hatred consumes them

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Five times more deadly? If it was like a Rabies Virus I would say you're probably correct. But it isn't.

More willful ignorance and blindly dumb words strung together into a sentence by an idiot crew member. Trump on tape said it’s 5 times more deadly. So clearly whatever information he had at the time was telling him it’s 5x more deadly than the flu and he believed that to be the case.

As usual, the Idiot Crew defending the indefensible.

Let me help you say something less idiotic “ya know 1B1 Trump really fucked up and 200,000 people will die because of it that might not have. I’ll still vote for him because that doesn’t matter to me.” I’d have more respect for you in that case.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Let me help you say something less idiotic “ya know 1B1 Trump really fucked up and 200,000 people will die because of it that might not have. I’ll still vote for him because that doesn’t matter to me.” I’d have more respect for you in that case.

And you should be honest with yourself, that the alternatives or opposing side to Trump back in Feb and March decried his preventative actions in regards to travel bans. Many people estimate those bans save hundreds of thousands of lives right off the bat.

The death toll for the alternative to Trump would likely be much higher right out of the gate, kinda like it was under that oh so special guidance of those Dem governors in New York, California, Washington.

Trump tempered panic which had it been left unchecked, might have caused innumerable additional deaths due to a total tanking of the economy, demoralized citizens, etc. etc.

As I said before, the left is playing Monday morning Quarterback right now, but have yet to truly say what they would do different.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

More willful ignorance and blindly dumb words strung together into a sentence by an idiot crew member. Trump on tape said it’s 5 times more deadly. So clearly whatever information he had at the time was telling him it’s 5x more deadly than the flu and he believed that to be the case.

As usual, the Idiot Crew defending the indefensible.

Let me help you say something less idiotic “ya know 1B1 Trump really fucked up and 200,000 people will die because of it that might not have. I’ll still vote for him because that doesn’t matter to me.” I’d have more respect for you in that case.

This virus is not five times more deadly than the Flu. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. You believe it's five times more deadly because you're a North Baton Rouge idiot.

[rexdutchman]

isn't it not funny that woody had this information BUT didn't say ANYTHING for 9 months till the book came out idiocracy if anyone believe this crap

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

isn't it not funny that woody had this information BUT didn't say ANYTHING for 9 months till the book came out idiocracy if anyone believe this crap

its because he wasn't alarmed one bit, he merely wanted trump to hang himself by talking (and talking is what trump does) and then he could take anything trump might have said and twist it and present it in ominous tones and cast it the most terrible way possible for his book

so once again woodward would be the hero

and then the media and leftists could say 'horror of all horrors"

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Let me make it simple Waco Kid. You took a list of 150 countries. The USA is 10th worst in terms of deaths per capita. So you decided to reduce that list to the 13 worst performing countries in the world. Since you ignored the other 137 now the USA doesn’t look so bad. There are 9 countries worse than us and only 3 better. What a laugh

Tiny - you are quoting numbers reported that i am completely unclear are accurate.

hospitals in america were given government subsidies for wuhan virus patients - to cover the expected losses from displacement of other paying patients (from the expected tsunami wave of patients and deaths) - and done to keep our hospital system afloat. That onslaught of patients generally did not occur - even in NY the converted javits center as a hospital for Wuhan virus patients - was never used.



This creates incentive and reason for hospitals to fudge the patient population - and recover available monies for caring for Wuhan virus patients - and that happened.

How many billions were paid out for false hospital attestations of wuhan virus patients admitted or deaths? No One knows - or will ever know - a complete accounting correction is impossible - cannot be done across every hospital taking government monies in America.



This creates a skewing of statistics - which increase falsely the wuhan virus patient population - and all statistics on death rates specifically due to Wuhan virus, admission numbers, and costs for Wuhan virus patients - as very suspect.



IMHO



Meanwhile - we still have no good idea as to the true penetrance in the population of the Wuhan virus - the number of asymptomatic infected is likely millions (IMHO) -and uncountable short of antigen testing every person in America every single day to track the virus progression. And it will progress through our population until herd imunity/vaccine is reached.



Tiny - i respectfully disagree with your conclusion of America's place in the world case mortality rates. Our hospital care is as good or better than many countries on the lists. resulting in lower case mortality rates.

I admit - I do not have a defined 'accurate' number of case mortality rate to submit here - for the reasons - and more - above.



Tiny - thank you good Sir for your reasoned debate!!!


Now - my post is better a part of other threads on the topic - so back to Woodward and his pandering for dollars.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

This virus is not five times more deadly than the Flu. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. You believe it's five times more deadly because you're a North Baton Rouge idiot.

Trump believed it was. You’re being intentionally obtuse. He told you and the rest of his Idiot followers it wasn’t, because he knew you were stupid enough to believe what he was saying even as everyone in the medical field was saying it was up to 10x more deadly. In fact you’re still believing his initial lie because you’re just plain being willfully ignorant.

I am not from nor have I ever lived in N Baton Rouge. Btw. I take it you were attempting some kinda slyly racist insult. You can keep them. I don’t care.

[oeb11]

I don’t care.



yes - You do care.

and the racism is of the plantation racial identity politics of the DPST party
Not the equal opportunity under the law of the Conservatives.

you are deluded and programmed by DPST led marxist leaders in shithole cities with schools incompetent to teach kids.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

isn't it not funny that woody had this information BUT didn't say ANYTHING for 9 months till the book came out idiocracy if anyone believe this crap

Trump is on tape so, there is that. Trump in his own words. Pretty believable. Yes also not denied he said any of it.

[oeb11]

Poor deluded 1b1 - by the marxist propaganda of the LSM and DPST party -

which are the real racists - keeping the black peoples down on their racial identity DPST plantation.

Life is better off the plantation - but One must be responsible for Oneself - a foreign, alien, misunderstood concept to those forced to decades of welfare in shit hole cities and abysmal schools forced on them by DPST intent to control the black peoples.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Trump believed it was. You’re being intentionally obtuse. He told you and the rest of his Idiot followers it wasn’t, because he knew you were stupid enough to believe what he was saying even as everyone in the medical field was saying it was up to 10x more deadly. In fact you’re still believing his initial lie because you’re just plain being willfully ignorant.

I am not from nor have I ever lived in N Baton Rouge. Btw. I take it you were attempting some kinda slyly racist insult. You can keep them. I don’t care.

No, I am not being obtuse at all. This Pandemic is a tool to play the masses. They want the dumb people to fear this thing enough to go along with all the ridiculous restrictions. If you believe half of what they are putting out there about this Pandemic then you have a North Baton Rouge Mentality.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Ok-- not sure you can blame it on being part of the propaganda machine when he has the evidence of what was said on tape but...


Here's what I find funny. I have a teenager. He's very into history and politics.. and the first words out of his mouth were...


"Mom-- wasn't that one of the guys that brought down Nixon and Watergate?"


Me-- Yup


"Why would Trump voluntarily talk to that person, tell that person things that were contrary to what he was publicly saying, and then act surprised when a known snitch... snitches?"




I gotta agree with the kid. That makes about as much sense as letting Edward Scissorhands handle your annual prostate exam.

Glad your Kids learned History.
and - from One who can never undergo a prostate exam - a funny line.

We do understand speculae are kept in the freezer.

[rexdutchman]

"its because he wasn't alarmed one bit, " EXACTLY nothing burger just sellin books

[oeb11]

Woodward is just pandering for money
He should go to kalifornia and pan for gold in the streams.
and get taxed exorbitantly by his DPST marxist heroes.