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Old 07-17-2020, 07:17 AM   #31
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What’s he losing Speedy? What’s the score? I guess he was losing in 2016, until he won. How many lies has Biden told?
In a matter of days we will be within 100 days of the election. For months now I've been reading opinions on this forum about how Trump will come from behind as he did in 2016 to win. Maybe he will but time is growing short. At some point his approval rating must go up and Biden's lead at the national level must go down or Trump will lose. Polls can be inaccurate to a certain degree but they would have to be more wrong than at any time in history for Trump to win if they stay where they are today.

I don't know how many lies or mis-statements Biden has told. During the Democratic primary debates fact-checkers did their job and found most of the candidates made errors in a handful of their statements. Nothing compared to the normal Trump political speech.
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:11 AM   #32
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In a matter of days we will be within 100 days of the election. For months now I've been reading opinions on this forum about how Trump will come from behind as he did in 2016 to win. Maybe he will but time is growing short. At some point his approval rating must go up and Biden's lead at the national level must go down or Trump will lose. Polls can be inaccurate to a certain degree but they would have to be more wrong than at any time in history for Trump to win if they stay where they are today.

I don't know how many lies or mis-statements Biden has told. During the Democratic primary debates fact-checkers did their job and found most of the candidates made errors in a handful of their statements. Nothing compared to the normal Trump political speech.
How many times has Biden plagiarized others Speedy? Nobody has won or lost anything yet. The real game is November 3rd.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ant_you_to_see

Next time you blurt out a poll, please link they’re criteria. Percentage of Democrat/Republicans sample and likely vrs registered voters.
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Old 07-17-2020, 09:39 AM   #33
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The master at work.

President Trump knows that slime balls like Acosta will always report his statements in a negative fashion, so he baited the entire press to sit and allow him to get his unfiltered message out.

Classic Trump.
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Old 07-17-2020, 12:46 PM   #34
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I understand that you would reject what is stated in the cited articles simply because they were sources that are considered left of center. No comment on whether the claims made are true or false.

You would get more (any) support on your views if they were not so ridiculous. If Biden is elected, you will see no radical movement to the left despite what you believe.

You seem so confident in that statement. What is that confidence based on because it surely can't be the fact that Bernie just said he has turned Biden into a Socialist and that Biden says he will make AOC a big part of his administration. Biden is just going to ignore the people he is bending to most and find himself scorned for 4 years? I don't think so.



Does that sound like somebody that will not be moving Left if he is elected? Knocking 20 years of his climate plan to appease Bernie and AOC. Saying he is not for defunding the police merely taking the money to fund them away. Classic double speak. But Hell, let's ask the Washington Post what they believe.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bidens-vision-comes-into-view-and-its-much-more-liberal-than-it-was/2020/07/11/f260830a-c2f2-11ea-b178-bb7b05b94af1_story.html


Biden’s vision comes into view, and it’s much more liberal than it was



Joe Biden is looking at building 500 million solar panels, slashing U.S. carbon emissions within 15 years, and rapidly expanding a government-sponsored health care plan. He wants to overhaul the way policing is conducted on American streets and the way success is measured in primary schools.

Over the past week, the presumptive Democratic nominee has offered the biggest burst of policy proposals since he effectively won the nomination, including a plan to spend $700 billion on American products and research. It marks a significant move to the left from where Biden and his party were only recently — on everything from climate and guns to health care and policing — and reflects a fundamental shift in the political landscape.


The new plans, which have come in speeches, interviews, and a 110-page policy document crafted with allies of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), provide a window into how Biden would govern, and they kick off a new phase in a campaign that until now has focused mostly on President Trump’s performance. As Biden releases more plans — including one on climate and clean energy investments this week — he appears to be drafting a blueprint for the biggest surge of government action in generations.
“I think the compromise that they came up with, if implemented, will make Biden the most progressive president since FDR,” Sanders, a democratic socialist who does not offer such assessments lightly, told MSNBC


It’s a remarkable turn for a candidate who was once defined by incrementalism but is now attempting to show voters how he’d grapple with tens of thousands of Americans dying from a global pandemic, an economy in tatters, and a country racked by a reckoning over racism.

“The primary was largely litigated in a pre-covid, pre-George Floyd moment,” said Abdul El-Sayed, a physician and liberal activist from Michigan, referring to the man whose killing in police custody ignited weeks of protests. “To try and run in the general on the primary’s precepts I think would be missing this immense moment in American history,”
Similarly, Biden opposed the “defund the police” movement pushed by some in his party while still arguing that funding for police departments should be redirected to other services such as mental health and counseling. He also said police forces are too heavily armed with military equipment.

“The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood,” he said in an interview with activist Ady Barkan that aired last week. “It’s like the military invading. They don’t know anybody. They become the enemy. They’re supposed to be protecting these people.”

Biden has also walked a fine line on fracking, a process used to produce underground natural gas and oil that environmentalists broadly oppose. Liberal Democrats have pushed for an outright ban on fracking, while centrists have warned of potential job losses in states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania.
The Washington Post can see it SR but you can't. Why is that do you think?





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Old 07-17-2020, 02:44 PM   #35
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Biden has already appointed Beto as his "gun Czar" - who made it a point to state "Hell yes, we're coming for your guns"!
They will disarm the populace - unless the people rise up and defend themselves against these Communism imposing radicals.

As much as I want no part of conflict with local officers - Any coming for my weapons under orders contrary to the second amendment and my legal purchases to confiscate my wrapons to an Orwellian government - will face armed resistance.



Civil War is coming!


SR is fixated on the polls, and in denial of the stated platform and planks and policies Biden and the DPST's have made quite clear.

Biden is in support of the Soylent green new Deal - by 2030 - a piece of nonsense if there ever was one.


Still - Biden is unlikely to 'Rule' more than a year if elected - his dementia is advancing, and the radicals will 25th amendment him out in favor of their radical VP - and Lizzie is still there pushing for it. Imagine the financial holocaust if Lizzie gets controls of the financial industry. She will feed all of Wall Street directly to AOC's Ovens.



Regardless - the DPST's see an opportunity to take the house, Senate, and PoTUS - and with that to overpack the SC with 15-20 ultraliberal judges - and they will then never , ever give up control - and force the Country into a One Party Communist Maduro type Venezuela - in which bernie and AOC will rail about the rich - which impoverishing the country - and maintaining their own wealth and properties ( all else confiscated by the State0 - and live as 'nomenklatura'!


They will do it - and the only remedy is armed revolt against the Communists and their Orwellian ideology!
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:24 PM   #36
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How many times has Biden plagiarized others Speedy? Nobody has won or lost anything yet. The real game is November 3rd.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ant_you_to_see

Next time you blurt out a poll, please link they’re criteria. Percentage of Democrat/Republicans sample and likely vrs registered voters.
speedo suffer's from the pole dementia not poll dementia
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:33 PM   #37
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You seem so confident in that statement. What is that confidence based on because it surely can't be the fact that Bernie just said he has turned Biden into a Socialist and that Biden says he will make AOC a big part of his administration. Biden is just going to ignore the people he is bending to most and find himself scorned for 4 years? I don't think so.



Does that sound like somebody that will not be moving Left if he is elected? Knocking 20 years of his climate plan to appease Bernie and AOC. Saying he is not for defunding the police merely taking the money to fund them away. Classic double speak. But Hell, let's ask the Washington Post what they believe.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bidens-vision-comes-into-view-and-its-much-more-liberal-than-it-was/2020/07/11/f260830a-c2f2-11ea-b178-bb7b05b94af1_story.html


Biden’s vision comes into view, and it’s much more liberal than it was



Joe Biden is looking at building 500 million solar panels, slashing U.S. carbon emissions within 15 years, and rapidly expanding a government-sponsored health care plan. He wants to overhaul the way policing is conducted on American streets and the way success is measured in primary schools.

Over the past week, the presumptive Democratic nominee has offered the biggest burst of policy proposals since he effectively won the nomination, including a plan to spend $700 billion on American products and research. It marks a significant move to the left from where Biden and his party were only recently — on everything from climate and guns to health care and policing — and reflects a fundamental shift in the political landscape.


The new plans, which have come in speeches, interviews, and a 110-page policy document crafted with allies of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), provide a window into how Biden would govern, and they kick off a new phase in a campaign that until now has focused mostly on President Trump’s performance. As Biden releases more plans — including one on climate and clean energy investments this week — he appears to be drafting a blueprint for the biggest surge of government action in generations.
“I think the compromise that they came up with, if implemented, will make Biden the most progressive president since FDR,” Sanders, a democratic socialist who does not offer such assessments lightly, told MSNBC


It’s a remarkable turn for a candidate who was once defined by incrementalism but is now attempting to show voters how he’d grapple with tens of thousands of Americans dying from a global pandemic, an economy in tatters, and a country racked by a reckoning over racism.

“The primary was largely litigated in a pre-covid, pre-George Floyd moment,” said Abdul El-Sayed, a physician and liberal activist from Michigan, referring to the man whose killing in police custody ignited weeks of protests. “To try and run in the general on the primary’s precepts I think would be missing this immense moment in American history,”
Similarly, Biden opposed the “defund the police” movement pushed by some in his party while still arguing that funding for police departments should be redirected to other services such as mental health and counseling. He also said police forces are too heavily armed with military equipment.

“The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood,” he said in an interview with activist Ady Barkan that aired last week. “It’s like the military invading. They don’t know anybody. They become the enemy. They’re supposed to be protecting these people.”

Biden has also walked a fine line on fracking, a process used to produce underground natural gas and oil that environmentalists broadly oppose. Liberal Democrats have pushed for an outright ban on fracking, while centrists have warned of potential job losses in states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania.
The Washington Post can see it SR but you can't. Why is that do you think?





speedo is to busy thinking about pole's or is it poll's
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