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Old 07-08-2020, 12:28 PM   #16
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and drinking disinfectant (!!!).
Your whole tirade just fell flat with that statement.

He never said drink disinfectant.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:30 PM   #17
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Went by the local hospital, parking lot much less than 50% full.

Where's the calls for ventilators?

Just looked at the Texas COVID website. 6 COVID deaths in 4 days in Harris County. Destroy the economy because of this?

The pandemic is over. The Dem panic isn't.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:38 PM   #18
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More importantly, Trump should have scared the hell out of everyone RIGHT FROM THE START. He should have worn a mask himself, made the WH staff wear them, and harangued the US population, especially his base, to wear masks.

Social pressure is more powerful in this case than threats of fines or jail.
If Trump had done this, there would be a much better chance he'd win the election and Republicans would hold the Senate. If most people would have followed his lead, the economy would be functioning better with fewer people out of work, and he wouldn't be running the risk of headlines about overloaded hospitals come October or November.

IHME's projections are controversial on this board, but their forecasts with universal masking are worth a look:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Scroll down to "daily deaths" and look at the difference between the universal masking case and the other two cases -- 200 deaths per day come November, versus 860 for their base case and 1300 for their "easing" case.

Texas is even more stark, 187 deaths per day for base and "easing" cases versus 30 for universal masking:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...-america/texas

My gut tells me we won't actually get to 187, either because some good things happen (for example most people wear masks and treatments continue to improve) or we end up with another lockdown.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:41 PM   #19
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Your whole tirade just fell flat with that statement.
He never said drink disinfectant. \
Oh? Was it stick an IR light inside your body? Whatever the exact quote was, I'm trying hard to put it out of my mind. It was excruciatingly embarrassing to hear.

It was yet another example of Trump's diarrhea of the mouth that constantly requires his supporters to clarify what the fool meant to say.

Does any other developed country have such an idiot for a leader?
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:49 PM   #20
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Does any other developed country have such an idiot for a leader?
Is Brazil a developed country?

In Trump's defense, you can't blame it all on him. The responses of the CDC, the FDA, the health care system, some of the governors, they were all lacking. This is a national embarrassment considering we spend 18% of GDP on health care and have some of the best doctors and research institutions in the world.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:52 PM   #21
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Cases have quadrupled.

If deaths don't quadruple then we will have beaten this thing and done so with a significantly better outcome than New York.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:52 PM   #22
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Went by the local hospital, parking lot much less than 50% full.

Where's the calls for ventilators?

Just looked at the Texas COVID website. 6 COVID deaths in 4 days in Harris County. Destroy the economy because of this?

The pandemic is over. The Dem panic isn't.
The parking lot? You fucking idiot. Are you still spouting that line? Do you actually believe the sick people drive themselves to the hospital and park their cars outside for two weeks? And their families cannot visit them, so even they don't park outside the hospital.

And you picked out ONE county for deaths?

Texas was below 2600 deaths just a few days ago. Now TX is at 2823. We added 283 deaths in under a week. It took 4 months to get to 2500. And you don't think the problem is getting worse?

The entire scientific world - and anyone that can count - says that the pandemic is accelerating in the US and elsewhere, but you think it is over based on your distortions of statistics for Harris County.

You are a sociopath.

And review these statistics for TX:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

Harris county lost 6 JUST yesterday. Not in 4 days. Dallas lost 9, Tarrant lost 10. In total, TX lost 85 people yesterday and the rate is increasing. How long until we hit NY numbers? 2 weeks? 3 weeks?

Look at the TX projections page:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...-america/texas

Not good. But it shows what a difference masks make.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:52 PM   #23
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Went by the local hospital, parking lot much less than 50% full..
You know the people are inside, right?
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:53 PM   #24
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Went by the local hospital, parking lot much less than 50% full.

Where's the calls for ventilators?

Just looked at the Texas COVID website. 6 COVID deaths in 4 days in Harris County. Destroy the economy because of this?

The pandemic is over. The Dem panic isn't.
The death rate for those under 40 who get proper treatment is almost zero.

The panic will not subside until Biden gets into office.

Many of the old people who died were close to death anyway and the flu would have gotten them in a few months.

When it's my time to go I just hope I'm coherent enough to take a few liberals with me as a final service to a once great nation!
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:07 PM   #25
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Cases have quadrupled.

If deaths don't quadruple then we will have beaten this thing and done so with a significantly better outcome than New York.
So, if deaths double or triple, that's a victory? Wow.

And this ISN"T a competition with NY, idiot. If TX has 30K dead, but NY has 40K dead, do you feel good?
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:12 PM   #26
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The death rate for those under 40 who get proper treatment is almost zero.

The panic will not subside until Biden gets into office.

Many of the old people who died were close to death anyway and the flu would have gotten them in a few months.

When it's my time to go I just hope I'm coherent enough to take a few liberals with me as a final service to a once great nation!
No, the flu would NOT have gotten them.

In a bad year, flu kills 50K. We are already at 140K in only 4 months. We will have over 200K by the end of the year. So, no, we are losing a LOT more than flu alone would take.
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Old 07-08-2020, 01:22 PM   #27
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...https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/texa...irst-time.html

Houston's hospitals are on trak to be overwhelmed in approximately two weeks as cases mount, Mayor Sylvester Turner said on CBS’ “Face The Nation” on Sunday. People of color are being disproportionately impacted, particularly Hispanic residents, he said...

Remember when the COVID models said we would only lose 65K people in 2020? Now that model says we lose 208K by November:...
Wait? Whut?!? What happened to 2.2 million were gonna die from the Kung Flu from Wuhan, China? I can't recall if that was before that number faker was banging his friend's wife or not...

I don't read CDNC unless I just need a good chuckle. Did they include the below from the locals in Houston?

Leaders of Houston’s 4 largest hospitals say capacity is in good shape as coronavirus cases increase

...“There is not a scenario, in my opinion, to where the demand for our beds, especially ICUs, ventilators, PPE, etcetera, would eclipse our capability,” said Mark Wallace, the President and CEO of Texas Children’s Hospital...

...“Just that number is being misinterpreted and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now,” Boom said...

...However, the hospitals in the Texas Medical Center are equipped to deal with a surge in COVID-19 hospitalizations.

The CEOs said they have a sustained surge protection plan in place, meaning other beds in other rooms could be used to house patients if it becomes necessary.

“We have plenty of capacity,” said Dr. David Callender, of Memorial Hermann....

We gonna need to move the goalposts again and gin up some more fear porn?
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Old 07-08-2020, 02:00 PM   #28
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The death rate for those under 40 who get proper treatment is almost zero.

The panic will not subside until Biden gets into office.

Many of the old people who died were close to death anyway and the flu would have gotten them in a few months.

When it's my time to go I just hope I'm coherent enough to take a few liberals with me as a final service to a once great nation!
Here is an interesting article from CNN:
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"The first reported case came on January 21. Within 99 days, 1 million Americans became infected.
It took just 43 days after that to reach 2 million cases.
And 28 days later, the US reached 3 million cases of the novel coronavirus Wednesday."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/healt...day/index.html
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Gee, 99 days to get to 1M, 43 to get to 2M, 28 to get to 3M.

Help me out here, Fred. There is a name for that type of growth, isn't there?, No, no, it's not linear. What is it again? Experimental, expository, explanatory... The word escapes me. What word it is Fred?
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Old 07-08-2020, 02:10 PM   #29
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If it is any consolation, lots of countries are fucking it up. Israel nearly had it beat, but they reopened in mid-May. Look at the up and down graph in this article:


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/middl...ntl/index.html


Over 600 new cases a day in early April, down to a handful per day in lat May, now worse then ever - back up to over 900 per day in July.
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Old 07-08-2020, 02:51 PM   #30
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Yes there have now been over 3 million confirmed cases ..... what percentage of 3 million is 133,000? (that's how many have died) and what percentage of 3 million is 542,000? (that's how many have recovered) ..... seems as though since this virus is, after all "Trump's fault", the Dipshits and the Libturds conveniently leave out that last number, don't they?? .....
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