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06-23-2020, 02:51 PM
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A reasonable person who knows that they are not a criminal and do not participate in criminal activity-- would have absolutely NO expectation nor assumption that the police would burst into their home at 1AM. Neighbors have all stated that the police DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. In the state of Kentucky-- a no-knock means they do not have to knock nor announce themselves. In fact, the 911 call from her boyfriend, he states that he had shot an intruder and they had shot his girlfriend... the police report was also problematic.. as it stated that Ms. Taylor was not injured and that they did not force their way in, despite having broken down the door with a battering ram.
But yeah.. cops are just always good, honest citizens.
I don't spray bullets. I aim carefully and accurately. Come into my house unannounced and don't identify yourself when asked (yeah, that happened too).. I won't be shooting your leg.
Funny you would mention blindly spraying bullets.. since that is exactly what the fired officer did. Blindly shot through a covered patio door and window.
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06-23-2020, 02:53 PM
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You aim carefully and accurately.
That means you identify your target.
Spraying bullets at people who shoot all the time is a very stupid thing to do.
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06-23-2020, 06:26 PM
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A reasonable person who knows that they are not a criminal and do not participate in criminal activity-- would have absolutely NO expectation nor assumption that the police would burst into their home at 1AM. Neighbors have all stated that the police DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. In the state of Kentucky-- a no-knock means they do not have to knock nor announce themselves. In fact, the 911 call from her boyfriend, he states that he had shot an intruder and they had shot his girlfriend... the police report was also problematic.. as it stated that Ms. Taylor was not injured and that they did not force their way in, despite having broken down the door with a battering ram.
But yeah.. cops are just always good, honest citizens.
I don't spray bullets. I aim carefully and accurately. Come into my house unannounced and don't identify yourself when asked (yeah, that happened too).. I won't be shooting your leg.
Funny you would mention blindly spraying bullets.. since that is exactly what the fired officer did. Blindly shot through a covered patio door and window.
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No nocks should be done away with the exception of hostage situations. That and qualified immunity (Not just for cops but ALL civil or elected servants) should be done away with.
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06-23-2020, 11:58 PM
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TTH is accusing Trump supporters of "Racism" - it is just the latest dictum from the NYTimes talking point for liberals who cannot think for themselves.
Of course - no One on the DPST Plantation is a "racist" - despite years of Democratic rule and no advancement for Blacks consistent with equal opportunity.
Trump and Supporters have done more for Black folks as a group than 100 years of Dem rule.
Including the hypocrite Obama.
Just the usual hypocrisy
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Like what??
What has Trump done for black people??
Seriously. This is not a trick question.
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06-24-2020, 12:57 AM
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Like what??
What has Trump done for black people??
Seriously. This is not a trick question.
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Jobs. Lots. And. Lots. of. Jobs.
The better question is, what the fuck have Democrats done for blacks? What the fuck has Obama, the first BLACK President, done for the black community?
Seriously. This is not a trick question.
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06-24-2020, 01:22 AM
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A reasonable person who knows that they are not a criminal and do not participate in criminal activity-- would have absolutely NO expectation nor assumption that the police would burst into their home at 1AM.
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Well said. If I have done nothing wrong, I'm not asking anyone any fucking questions if someone breaks into my home at that hour. I would fire away and ask questions later. I'm just going to assume the worst and react accordingly. I'm not going to offer them a drink and ask them why they are in my house.
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06-24-2020, 01:40 AM
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Jobs. Lots. And. Lots. of. Jobs.
The better question is, what the fuck have Democrats done for blacks? What the fuck has Obama, the first BLACK President, done for the black community?
Seriously. This is not a trick question.
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Same ol' cliched answers.
These bullshit jobs that nobody wants, but have to settle for. Didn't need Trump for that.
Oh, btw, people need three of these 'jobs' just to make SOME of their ends meet. They're the jobs that are given by those who wouldn't do the jobs themselves. Why? Because these jobs don't pay worth a shit, and won't sustain any measurable quality of life.
Work shit jobs. Stress over barely paying your rent with them. FOH.
As far as the Democrats doing anything for black people, or Obama? Probably nothing. Most of us are still poor, still uneducated, still going to jail, and still getting killed by police for no reason. Don't be fooled by pro athletes, celebrities and other black entertainers. That is freakishly small percentage of the demographic that is doing well.
Tell me, genius. How is voting republican going to help black people, or anybody who wants a better life, regardless of color?
The system is designed to keep most people broke.
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06-24-2020, 02:15 AM
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Creed, I don't disagree with your assertion. The firm I work for is always ranked in the top 10 when it comes to diversity this and that every year. When they were boasting about it, I realized that there were never black people or Hispanic people in our executive meetings when we meet in NYC every quarter.
I can go to any of the offices of the firm I work for here in DFW, and I will see many black people and Hispanic people. But they are all bullshit jobs so they make their high diversity rankings off of that. I don't know what they make, but I doubt you could feed your family off of it if you have children without having to take on another job unless you live in a cheap apartment or at a trailer park. ~$45K is decent money when you are single at 21 with no kids, but not so much so when you have a family to feed when you are older.
Edit: And just for the record, I was not trying to insult anyone who makes $45K a year.
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06-24-2020, 03:21 AM
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I made exactly $0 a year for two years when Lehman Brothers closed and I was living off of my credit cards. I would have felt like I was making a million bucks a year for $45K. I'm cool now but I sure the fuck wasn't back then. I lost everything just like many of my coworkers did. My ESOs (employee stock options) were completely worthless and I had no fucking job so I don't frown upon anyone making $45K a year because I wish I did during those two years.
Nobody would hire me. I tried but it was a waste of time. Fortunately, I made the money I lost back very quickly and then some. I never gave up and quickly learned that my determination and arrogance are a powerful thing. All I know is that living off your credit cards is no fun and kind of depressing. I felt like a broke piece of shit then. I realize how fortunate I am now because I'll never worry about money again.
Anyway fuck Lehman Brothers and that crooked bankrupt firm, with what Creed posted, a lot of these numbers are fucked up because I see it with my own eyes damn near every single day at my firm. There is a difference for everyone when it comes to employment. Just because you are employed does not mean your job is not shit. That goes for any race and especially for minorities. Trump's bullshit job stats about black people don't mean anything.
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06-24-2020, 08:22 AM
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you know why immigrants of all stripes make it? because they dont have excuses to give for their current station in life and if they did, no one would care.
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06-24-2020, 09:11 AM
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No nocks should be done away with the exception of hostage situations. That and qualified immunity (Not just for cops but ALL civil or elected servants) should be done away with.
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This. I personally feel we should hold all civil and elected servants at a higher standard.. but if we cannot.. .then we should at least hold them to the SAME standard that the rest of us have.
Just from a sexworkers position-- do you have any idea how many ladies in this industry are sexually assaulted by police officers? Its staggering... and the conviction rate is nightmarishly low.
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06-24-2020, 09:12 AM
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you know why immigrants of all stripes make it? because they dont have excuses to give for their current station in life and if they did, no one would care.
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So... if immigrants of all stripes are making it.. then why are there so many claims that they're all leeching off the system? Can't have it both ways.
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06-24-2020, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Grace Preston
A reasonable person who knows that they are not a criminal and do not participate in criminal activity-- would have absolutely NO expectation nor assumption that the police would burst into their home at 1AM. Neighbors have all stated that the police DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. In the state of Kentucky-- a no-knock means they do not have to knock nor announce themselves. In fact, the 911 call from her boyfriend, he states that he had shot an intruder and they had shot his girlfriend... the police report was also problematic.. as it stated that Ms. Taylor was not injured and that they did not force their way in, despite having broken down the door with a battering ram.
But yeah.. cops are just always good, honest citizens.
I don't spray bullets. I aim carefully and accurately. Come into my house unannounced and don't identify yourself when asked (yeah, that happened too).. I won't be shooting your leg.
Funny you would mention blindly spraying bullets.. since that is exactly what the fired officer did. Blindly shot through a covered patio door and window.
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I believe a judge must approve a no knock warrant and while sometimes things go wrong they exist for a reason. However, just like mail in ballots, sometimes shit doesn't work perfectly in real life.
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06-24-2020, 10:01 AM
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So... if immigrants of all stripes are making it.. then why are there so many claims that they're all leeching off the system? Can't have it both ways.
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Well, what if different people are making the conflicting claims?
In the case of Asian people, the data indicate they are the best educated and highest paid of any ethnic group in America.
Even in the case of the commercial sex industry they work harder than the average American hooker, and likely make more money. It will be amusing when we finally pay reparations (which I completely support in exchange for stopping all this other bullshit affirmative action/diversity) that the Asians will make a significant contribution via their taxes.
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06-24-2020, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Randall Creed
Same ol' cliched answers.
These bullshit jobs that nobody wants, but have to settle for. Didn't need Trump for that.
Oh, btw, people need three of these 'jobs' just to make SOME of their ends meet. They're the jobs that are given by those who wouldn't do the jobs themselves. Why? Because these jobs don't pay worth a shit, and won't sustain any measurable quality of life.
Work shit jobs. Stress over barely paying your rent with them. FOH.
As far as the Democrats doing anything for black people, or Obama? Probably nothing. Most of us are still poor, still uneducated, still going to jail, and still getting killed by police for no reason. Don't be fooled by pro athletes, celebrities and other black entertainers. That is freakishly small percentage of the demographic that is doing well.
Tell me, genius. How is voting republican going to help black people, or anybody who wants a better life, regardless of color?
The system is designed to keep most people broke.
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Perhaps our African American brothers could emulate the Asians who outperform every demographic in America, including white people, in both education and income.
As for education, this is in spite of all the name brand Universities doing subtle things to keep them out! (Including The Slave Trader University of New Haven, CT.)
You realize I support reparations anyway, right? Slavery is the biggest mistake America ever made, and 800,000 white men died to end the system.
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