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06-19-2020, 12:03 PM
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No, but in theory he could actually run for VP and then Joe, steps down, and wala, you got third term Barry. I think it would cause some serious shit in the senate, but those fucking idiots on both sides of the isle cannot figure out how to open a jar of pickles let alone deal with something like this. It would be a slam dunk for Biden if he went that way. My opinion.
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we've already beat this discussion to death.
Obama can't "run" for either POTUS or VPOTUS. Running for VPOTUS carries with it the restrictions of POTUS.
The only possible avenue would be through an ascension to POTUS like Ford had. Biden runs with somebody as VPOTUS, then after the election the somebody steps down(like Agnew did) and Joe appoints Obama VPOTUS(like Nixon did Ford), then Joe steps down and Obama moves to POTUS(like Ford did).
And even that scenario is questioned by some Constitutional scholars.
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06-19-2020, 01:49 PM
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06-19-2020, 09:38 PM
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we've already beat this discussion to death.
Obama can't "run" for either POTUS or VPOTUS. Running for VPOTUS carries with it the restrictions of POTUS.
The only possible avenue would be through an ascension to POTUS like Ford had. Biden runs with somebody as VPOTUS, then after the election the somebody steps down(like Agnew did) and Joe appoints Obama VPOTUS(like Nixon did Ford), then Joe steps down and Obama moves to POTUS(like Ford did).
And even that scenario is questioned by some Constitutional scholars.
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if he did that, he'd only serve 2 years.
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06-19-2020, 09:47 PM
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06-19-2020, 10:46 PM
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the diaper brigade strikes... but boy, do they stink.
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06-20-2020, 06:12 AM
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if he did that, he'd only serve 2 years.
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I'm missing the reference unless you are literally taking the timetable of Ford into the discussion.
In my scenario Obama would serve out the remaining Term of Biden for however long was remaining from Biden stepping down, whether that is 2 weeks or almost 4 years.
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06-20-2020, 10:35 AM
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Obama as VP is a very unlikely scenario . If the LibDPST's could get away with it - they might try .
If obama was elected as VP- there would be an immediately SC court case - and it would be very intersting to watch the partisan sides - partciularly the Libs - twist their words and logic to support their stand.
I think they would lose tht case.
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06-20-2020, 10:42 AM
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Obama as VP is a very unlikely scenario . If the LibDPST's could get away with it - they might try .
If obama was elected as VP- there would be an immediately SC court case - and it would be very intersting to watch the partisan sides - partciularly the Libs - twist their words and logic to support their stand.
I think they would lose tht case.
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Yeah, I didn't say a likely scenario and I also was explicit that it wouldn't be Obama getting elected VP, but through a series of questionable steps.
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06-20-2020, 10:43 AM
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no criticism of You - EL.
Good discussion.
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06-20-2020, 11:23 AM
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To be more specific:
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Amendment XXV
Section 1.
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Section 3.
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
Section 4.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
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06-20-2020, 03:47 PM
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I'm missing the reference unless you are literally taking the timetable of Ford into the discussion.
In my scenario Obama would serve out the remaining Term of Biden for however long was remaining from Biden stepping down, whether that is 2 weeks or almost 4 years.
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Ford, Johnson, & some other vice presidents who took over after a death or resignation.
theoretically, they get 10 years as president. the catch here is the death or resignation has to occur in the year 3 & 4 of a single 4 year term.
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06-20-2020, 06:40 PM
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Munchmasterman is the arbiter of our rights, apparently.
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Yes. Let every single trumpy attend the Republican Convention.
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Hell yeah. Thank you for your permission to allow people to exercise their first amendment right!
So gracious of you.
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06-20-2020, 09:00 PM
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Some people............lol
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06-20-2020, 10:44 PM
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Some people............lol
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06-21-2020, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
Ford, Johnson, & some other vice presidents who took over after a death or resignation.
theoretically, they get 10 years as president. the catch here is the death or resignation has to occur in the year 3 & 4 of a single 4 year term.
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I don't think you are following my scenario. My example of Ford was to show that a non-elected(as POTUS or VPOTUS) individual could become POTUS, which could provide Obama a path to the POTUS again. I'm not aware of anything that would force that to only be in year 3 or 4 and limit it to a total of 10 years.
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