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Old 06-03-2020, 03:43 PM   #46
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Amazing that you have to so inform one who calls himself a "lawyer"!

That concept is covered in 1st year "Criminal Law" in a regular law school, but I am not sure about Cracker Jack Box school.

Ex-Officer Lane is primarily responsible for Floyd's death.
I'm not a lawyer but the prosecution going to have a rough time proving criminal intent if he is charged with 2nd or 1st degree murder
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Old 06-03-2020, 03:45 PM   #47
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Officer Chauvin is now charged in Minneapolis with 2nd degree murder.
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Old 06-03-2020, 04:21 PM   #48
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This board was the first I'd heard they worked at the same place and/or otherwise might know each other. But ...

... that heightens my interest in how the situation evolved from Floyd sitting on the sidewalk leaning back against the building wall after being handcuffed by a tall lean Black officer who had assisted him in sitting down and getting back up to walk out to the vehicle ....... to lying on the street pinned down with a White officer's knee into the neck smirking while Floyd complained he couldn't breathe.

And now it's rumored they may have known each other, because they worked at same spot in similar roles?
It’s not a rumor but a fact. The cop was on the security detail and Boy George was a bouncer. They knew each other. Now here’s the rumor. The establishment they worked for was into some nefarious business activities. And Boy George knew too much. This might have been a hit. That’s the rumor.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:03 PM   #49
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One would think a so-called "attorney" would know statute.
That doesn't even require a "statute" .... that is the amazement!

But like train engineers .....



... there are lawyers and then there are LAWYERS!
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:23 PM   #50
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I'm not a lawyer but the prosecution going to have a rough time proving criminal intent if he is charged with 2nd or 1st degree murder
The Minnesota 1st Degree Murder statute reads ...

"...with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person ...."

and the 2nd Degree statute reads ...

"...with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation ...."

#1 would be tough on the "premeditation" .... but the "intent" can be proven with a circumstantial instruction, which is almost automatic and probably error if omitted in Minnesota. The other officers apparently commented about Floyd's condition before he died while Floyd was still putting pressure on him .... and that might be enough implied "intent" to get over that hurdle.

I think the Lane and the other officer holding his legs had body cams on and running and their view of Floyd and audio would be better than the one shown on newscasts.

HR ... my statement that Lane is responsible for Floyd's death is based on his responsibility as the arresting officer to assure Floyd's safe transport to the holding/jail facility to which he would be taken from that scene location ... irrespective of the circumstances in which his prisoner is injured .... Floyd was in his possession and under his care until Floyd died.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:24 PM   #51
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It’s not a rumor but a fact.
It's a "fact" reported by .....?
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I'm not a lawyer but the prosecution going to have a rough time proving criminal intent if he is charged with 2nd or 1st degree murder
They’ll never get premeditation, there’s no way he could’ve known that call would come in. If he’s charged with 1st degree murder he will be found not guilty, and rightly so.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:42 PM   #53
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It's a "fact" reported by .....?
You could have googled it yourself:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/der...htclub-shifts/
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They’ll never get premeditation, there’s no way he could’ve known that call would come in.
He doesn't need to know "that call would come in" ....

The statute doesn't require a "time line" or "time period" for the decision to kill Floyd to be made. Also, at this point you have no way of KNOWING what was ACTUALLY on the cop's mind when he arrived at the scene.

It's a tad early to be making bold predictions.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:47 PM   #55
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You could have googled it yourself:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/der...htclub-shifts/
A news report? I can "google" a lot of shit on the internet.

The owner "said" ..... that doesn't make it "a fact"! Is there an allegation floating around that her place of business laundries fake bills?

Like I said ... It's a tad early to draw conclusions.

I suppose there is a video with audio with her lips moving in sync to what was reported. Oh, wait! She's got a mask on.

I can't imagine why I might be skeptical of the owner of a counterfeit money laundering business when speaking of her employees after one killed the other one who tried to pass one of the fake bills .... bit I'm not seeking reports to support my theory and wishful thinking.
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Old 06-03-2020, 05:57 PM   #56
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A news report? I can "google" a lot of shit on the internet.

The owner "said" ..... that doesn't make it "a fact"! Is there an allegation floating around that her place of business laundries fake bills?

Like I said ... It's a tad early to draw conclusions.

I suppose there is a video with audio with her lips moving in sync to what was reported. Oh, wait! She's got a mask on.
If you say so Barrister. I guess she’s lying eh? Don’t be stupid.
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TurdFerguson's worst nightmare.. the city that bears his name has elected a large BLACK WOMAN as its Mayor


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/u...son-mayor.html
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TurdFerguson's worst nightmare.. the city that bears his name has elected a large BLACK WOMAN as its Mayor


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/u...son-mayor.html
And your fantasy!
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maybe she can fill in for Stacy Abrams as VP nominee if biden chooses!
Unless she is designated an "Uncle tom"!
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Default Anybody know if this is George Floyd's TX Rap sheet?

googled it...

https://www.reddit.com/r/westernbetr...n_who_the_cop/
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