A Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama ticket to replace Joe Biden? Is it even possible?

[Jacuzzme]

Lots of wishful thinking in this thread.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Fox news.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...sement-of-2020

I guess repeating the question won't do any more good.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

The easiest way to replace Biden is to remember that the delegates are only pledged on the first vote. Now if 400 or 500 delegates had a late dinner and "missed" the first vote so no one got a majority then all bets are off. The second and subsequent votes would be open to anyone and the delegates could vote for whom they choose.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Now all those people citing polls seven months before the election are dangerously naive. A lot can change, and will, in seven months. The big thing that the democrats choose to ignore at their peril is excitement of the voter. Trump supporters have all the excitement. Will the Bernie bros vote for Biden? I don't think the democrats know. How about moderate women in the age of #me too? What about blacks? Trump is making inroads. Take all this into account and Biden is behind the eight-ball.

[adav8s28]

[QUOTE=the_real_Barleycorn;1062 047590]The easiest way to replace Biden is to remember that the delegates are only pledged on the first vote. Now if 400 or 500 delegates had a late dinner and "missed" the first vote[/QUOTE
Late dinner? Come on JD, you can do better than that.







This is almost as bad as when you posting as JD Bareleycorn, when you posted a link from the New York times that said the WMD's were found. It turned out those WMD's were designed by the USA, manufactured in Europe and installed on Iraqi soil by American companies in the 1980's when Regan was president.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Sounds like a confession. What else are you guilty of...besides stupidity. Don't worry, you can train yourself to a normal intelligence. It won't be easy but you can do it.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

What else are you guilty of...

Whatever you teach your students, I hope it's not science or finance because you know nothing about either subject. You are just as stupid now as were when you were posting as J.D. Barleycorn.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Penn and Mich have flipped already. You Trump worshipers better keep and eye on Wisconsin and North Carolina. If Biden flips either of these two to go with Penn and Mich, Biden gets to 270 and Trump goes home to Trump Tower.

It is true that America is full of liberal pussies who hate Trump, so it will be a difficult race for him to win.

Sad, really that people who call Republicans the haters are so full of hate themselves.

[oeb11]

FF- well written

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

They are stuck with Biden. Now they've pissed off Bernie's folks.

As each day passes they are confirming Trump's message!

Nope, the will jettison Sleepy-creepy Joe at their time. Not sure which shenanigan they will use, but I don't see them waiting until the convention.

Yes, they sure to play the ever dependable cats (pussies) to Trump's laser pointer and it's fun to watch.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Nope, the will jettison Sleepy-creepy Joe at their time. Not sure which shenanigan they will use, but I don't see them waiting until the convention.

Yes, they sure to play the ever dependable cats (pussies) to Trump's laser pointer and it's fun to watch.

the good news for Biden is that he'll forget about it the next day.


BAHHAAAA

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Now all those people citing polls seven months before the election are dangerously naive. A lot can change, and will, in seven months. The big thing that the democrats choose to ignore at their peril is excitement of the voter. Trump supporters have all the excitement. Will the Bernie bros vote for Biden? I don't think the democrats know. How about moderate women in the age of #me too? What about blacks? Trump is making inroads. Take all this into account and Biden is behind the eight-ball.

I am by far the person who cites polls the most. Naive? I don't think so. I repeat the same caveats that eccielover states. They represent the opinions of a randomly selected subset of voters at a specific point in time. As you say a lot can change in 7 months but polls at this point in time can still tell a story. I find it interesting the same people who disparage the polls, including Trump, hop all over them when they are favorable to their cause. Why do you think the White House runs internal polls?

I don't disagree with your other statements. Trump certainly generates more excitement among voters than Biden. That won't move any undecided voters over to his side but we all know that his base will be out there on election day in force. By election day the sexual allegations made against Biden will be long forgotten, just as the 20+ sexual allegations made against Trump in 2016 were long forgotten by election day. My guess is blacks will show up in support of Biden much more than they did for Hillary. Trump received about 8% of the black vote in 2016 and currently he has a 10% approval rating among blacks. Prior to the downturn in the economy. So it's increased turnout among blacks versus a slightly higher percentage voting for Trump. A wash for Trump at best.

You can talk all you want about these minor impacts on election day. Even with a strong economy Trump seemed to be in trouble in the 5-7 states that really matter. If the economy is still in the toilet at the end of the 3rd quarter with few signs of recovery, his odds for reelection will be rather low in my opinon.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Sounds like a confession. What else are you guilty of...besides stupidity. Don't worry, you can train yourself to a normal intelligence. It won't be easy but you can do it.

If I remember correctly, you predicted at least 3 of the 4 women in "the squad" would lose reelection this November.

Still standing by that prediction?

[the_real_Barleycorn]

I just read that Dick Morris agrees with me. It's all about uncommitted delegates and that first round vote. Cuomo cancelled New York's primary so none of those delegates are locked into Joe. If they move the convention further along watch for a bait and switch.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

I just read that Dick Morris agrees with me. It's all about uncommitted delegates and that first round vote. Cuomo cancelled New York's primary so none of those delegates are locked into Joe. If they move the convention further along watch for a bait and switch.

Cuomo did not cancel New York's primary. The NY State Board of Elections did.

New York became the first state to cancel its presidential primary over coronavirus fears, the co-chair of the New York State Board of Elections said.

Douglas Kellner told CNN the decision came after Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders suspended his presidential campaign earlier this month, which "basically rendered the primary moot."

"At a time when the goal is to avoid unnecessary social contact, our conclusion was that there was no purpose in holding a beauty contest primary that would marginally increase the risk to both voters and poll workers," said Kellner, one of the Democratic commissioners on the board.

Cuomo said at a news conference Monday that he would not "second guess" the state's board of elections.

"I know there are a lot of election employees, employees of boards of elections who are nervous about conducting elections," Cuomo said. "But I'll leave it up to the board of elections."

I'm sure that since you've been a conspiracty theorist in the past, you will jump to the conclusion that Cuomo was actually behind the cancellation, with no proof.