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Old 04-29-2020, 02:39 PM   #46
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The real Americans can't and will not be that stupid again. All the dems have to do is run real news of trump speaking stupid shit and Mitch standing around looking like a fuckn idiot. It's a slam duck for Joe and the (support the greedy corporations) senate. The Corps n Putin can't buy 2020

Check out Shocked, stunned and pleased. The Left is coming to terms with the sexual allegation against Biden. Women's organizations are being asked to comment and they are all silent because what are they going to say other than all women should be believed and an investigation must happen?


Now Reid is asking for Biden to open up his records because she believes her complaint might be in his records. Will Biden open his records? And of course "yous and yours" will say "well Trump didn't open his tax records" but aren't Democrats supposed to be better, more ethical that Republicans? Do they really want to take the position that they are no different than the Republicans they complain about?


This sexual allegation is heating up and being talked about on more platforms than just Fox News. One more story Fox News forced others to take notice of like the Russia conspiracy hoax, the FISA abuse that Adam "shit for brain" Schiff said didn't happen but did and the "about to be story" of how the FBI conspired to get General Flynn as well as the entire deep state scheme to keep Trump out of office and when that didn't work to drive him from office with false allegations by the FBI, DOJ and CIA.


Nov. is a long time away and all those Democrats unhappy with Biden being the nominee, are now seeing an opening for Bernie or "Anybody but Joe" campaign.


Stand by.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:57 PM   #47
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I don't know if he should have "Gone against science".

But he should have gone against what he did which was not a fucking thing.
He should have ;
1.Initiated early aggressive testing
2.Initiated a build up of PPE and medical supplies
3.Initiated Social Distancing sooner
4.Mainly been truthful as to the Possibility of what we came to be faced with.His attitude and approach was very damaging.
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:01 PM   #48
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Let's get all the women in a room.
One side for Chump accusers (plural) and one side for Biden's accuser (singular).

I can name 3 guys that can defeat Chump besides Biden ;
1.Curly
2.Moe
3.Larry
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:06 PM   #49
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I don't know if he should have "Gone against science".

But he should have gone against what he did which was not a fucking thing.
He should have ;
1.Initiated early aggressive testing
2.Initiated a build up of PPE and medical supplies
3.Initiated Social Distancing sooner
4.Mainly been truthful as to the Possibility of what we came to be faced with.His attitude and approach was very damaging.
So, that's what you are sticking with. Placing all the blame on Trump while you vehemently pretend no one else was involved.

Can you say T-D-S
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:25 PM   #50
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Unfortunately, the Fascist DPST's are so over the Moon with their trump hatred - they cannot rationally consider "FACTS" - since facts universally differ from their propaganda narrative.

That is a contradiction conundrum they are not able to rationally consider - so their



Heads Explode!!!


Give up the hatred j66- life is much better after intensive professional Help.
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:58 PM   #51
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Give up the hatred j66- life is much better after intensive professional Help.
Is that right, wouldn’t know, you speaking from experience?

Hey professor, Just curious, do you have to log CE hours to remain in good standings with the Eccie institute of internet psychology? I’m thinking you’re due for a few refresher courses.

All hail the great leader for making Amerika #1
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:13 PM   #52
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So, that's what you are sticking with. Placing all the blame on Trump while you vehemently pretend no one else was involved.

Can you say T-D-S
Shouldn’t you be out making a investment into Remdesivir instead confirming your stupidity here, there’s blood money to be made. Right...

Why did the great leader believe Xi over his own intelligence? Had he listened to his own Chief of staff and Cabinet members he would have had 45 days of preparation and planning.

He made the calls and he will take the fall and drag the GOP down with him.

Wanna bet some blood money?
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:18 PM   #53
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What I'm sticking with and no pretending about it is this ;
People are responsible for and accountable for their own actions and their inactions.They can't Hide behind bullshit regarding what someone else did or didn't do, that they will then use to Blame for their own actions.They may be deceived,they may make a bad judgement,they may then take a bad action.

But it is their action to own.

1.China - do we ordinarily defer our foreign policy and decision making to China ? I don't think so. China is not our country.Xi not our Pres.
2.WHO - do we ordinarily defer our policies and decisions to WHO ? No.
3.Obama - do we accept a Pres saying "Hey the guy here before me did it ?" No.
4.Governors - do Governors orchestrate our response to what our Pres said was akin to a War ? No.
5.CDC - that is an entity below the Pres. He is responsible for what they do - good and bad.
6.Media - this is the lamest blame of all. A bunch of Journalists with pencils and tape recorders.

None of these individuals or entities are our President.
I don't really give a shit what any of them did or did not do.
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:21 PM   #54
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Can you say T-D-S [/QUOTE]

What is that? Trump Dick Suckers?
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Old 04-29-2020, 05:55 PM   #55
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I don't know if he should have "Gone against science".

But he should have gone against what he did which was not a fucking thing.
He should have ;
1.Initiated early aggressive testing
2.Initiated a build up of PPE and medical supplies
3.Initiated Social Distancing sooner
4.Mainly been truthful as to the Possibility of what we came to be faced with.His attitude and approach was very damaging.
Yet all of that, disregarding #4, would be going against what the medical experts, politicians and media were saying at the time. He would have been harassed and vilified just like he was when he closed some travel. Not to mention congress wouldn’t have approved any of it, and had he bypassed getting their approval they’d have screamed FASCIST DICTATOR!! You’re definitely advocating him going “against science”, at least the facts we had at the time, and we all know how that would’ve worked out.

As for #4, being calm and having a positive attitude is exactly what you want in a leader. In 23 years enlisted and 4 wars not once did an officer say WE’RE ALL GONNA FUCKING DIE, even while knowing some would.

I do appreciate your actually engaging the subject matter though, it’s more than can be said for the other wackjobs here.
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Old 04-29-2020, 07:04 PM   #56
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Its a debate..
There isn't any harrassment going on.
There is such a thing as
ABUSE OF THE RMT BUTTON.
Greatest post ever made by a mod! Love it!
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:59 AM   #57
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Republicans: ‘Nobody Expected’ the Coronavirus Pandemic. So Joe Biden Is Nobody?

President Trump, having stopped dismissing the threat of the coronavirus and calling criticism of his laggard response “their new hoax,” has begun insisting everybody was shocked. “It’s something that nobody expected,” he has said. Conservative pundits have picked up this revisionist history. “Armchair Quarterbacks Try to Rewrite History on Coronavirus,” argues National Review’s David Harsanyi. “Generalized ‘Trump didn’t take this seriously enough!’ stuff is ignoring the timeline, wherein every major Democrat didn’t take it very seriously until early March either,” insists Ben Shapiro.

One example of a major Democrat who took this seriously would be Joe Biden, who, as the party’s presumptive presidential nominee, is arguably the major Democrat. Biden wrote an op-ed on January 27 warning that Trump had left the country unprepared to handle the coronavirus outbreak, and proposing steps to counter it. One of his main advisers, Ron Klain, wrote an op-ed making similar points five days before that.

The primary defense made of Trump is to compare his laggard response against the straw-man alternative in which the only alternative was to close down everything three months ago. “Now we’re going to act as if politicians were negligent for failing to try to lock down the entire economy in early January?” writes Harsanyi mockingly. Obviously, there were numerous steps available short of a total lockdown. Indeed, the massive lockdown was only necessary because Trump failed to take any advance steps, like mobilizing an effective testing system, stockpiling masks and ventilators, and reconstituting some kind of structure to replace the pandemic response team he dismantled in 2018.

The “nobody could have known” defense memory-holes the fact that Democrats and Republicans were fiercely debating whether the government should be doing more in the very recent history. Trump’s stance, which he repeated constantly, was that the coronavirus had been contained, was likely to fizzle out, and would not be very harmful. The whole Republican position for weeks was that Democrats and the media were “doing everything they can to instill fear in people,” as Trump put it.

The Conservative Political Action Conference featured Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s chief of staff, assuring everybody the virus was being overhyped to scare people into blaming Trump. (Trump probably suspected this because Republicans had used this exact strategy to whip up hysteria against President Obama before the 2014 midterms.) “This is not Ebola. It’s not SARS. It’s not MERS. It’s not a death sentence; it’s not the same as the Ebola crisis,” Mulvaney declared. “The reason you’re seeing so much attention to it today is that they think this is going to be the thing that brings down the president,” Mulvaney said. “That’s what this is all about.”

The Democrats’ position was that the coronavirus was a real threat and the government should actually prepare for it. “For Mick Mulvaney to suggest that Americans turn off their TVs and bury their heads in the sand when they’re worried about a global health pandemic is Orwellian, counterproductive, dangerous and would be repeating China’s mistake,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in February. (Presumably Schumer would also qualify as a “major Democrat.”)

Bottom line, the great leader lied and people continue to die.
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Of course - no DPST wants to politicize a viral pandemic - particularly if it does turn out to be comparable to Influenza A, and not the Ebola they were hoping for.
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One example of a major Democrat who took this seriously would be Joe Biden, who, as the party’s presumptive presidential nominee, is arguably the major Democrat. Biden wrote an op-ed on January 27 warning that Trump had left the country unprepared to handle the coronavirus outbreak, and proposing steps to counter it.
Yeah, I remember that and the hypocrisy of his statements given that it was the Obama administration, which hmmm, I think he was a major part of wasn't he, that had exhausted the nations supplies without ever replacing them and also didn't account for on going funding of the various teams that were setup.

Pretty fucking hilarious to bring up another uncited piece. But wonder of all wonders it's not a WAPO piece, but it is a month dated already.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...biden-did.html
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Yeah, I remember that and the hypocrisy of his statements given that it was the Obama administration, which hmmm, I think he was a major part of wasn't he, that had exhausted the nations supplies without ever replacing them and also didn't account for on going funding of the various teams that were setup.

Pretty fucking hilarious to bring up another uncited piece. But wonder of all wonders it's not a WAPO piece, but it is a month dated already.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...biden-did.html
Like you never bring up past history, Eh.

The great leader and his hand picked team were advised by the outgoing administration of shortages . They had opportunity to resolve the issue but chose not too and the great leader made a conscious choice to believe his good friend Xi over Americans. Now the cult screams China when their own leader was accepting the bullshit he was being fed because he didn’t want anything to screw up his great deal. Xi played that moron like a Christmas drum and collapsed the economy.
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