Climate experts call for 'dangerous' Michael Moore film to be taken down

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Originally Posted by Tiny

Michael Moore is a dipshit

he maybe a dipshit.. but he's a bonafide truth seeker...


he wouldn't have made "planet of humans" exposing the green hypocrisy with his leftist pals wanting his balls for lunch.

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Originally Posted by HedonistForever

I was more upset by the Orangutan at the end, very hard to watch.


But it's this increasing call to censor what the Left does not want presented that is even more disturbing. I just posted a clip on Tucker Carlson about two doctors in California who posted a long clip on Youtube questioning the lockdown which of course is getting a lot of play on Fox as did this interview.


The clip has been removed from YouTube because it was decided by the CEO, that it was "misinformation". Funny how the misinformation we have been getting all along about the possibility of millions dying without any science to back it up, was OK.



And what was this misinformation? My guess is. it was the low, very low death rate in California something they would otherwise be proud of UNLESS it is followed by the question "was this lockdown worth it with such a low death rate"?


Seems like the Left which is YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, do not want to hear the question "was the lockdown and the economy disaster it caused, worth it"?


The heads of all 3 of these platforms are now on record saying they will not tolerate misinformation which is apparently anything the World Health Organization deems "unhelpful".

Left wing censorship because people are revolting against the heavy hand of liberal government, I hope.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

the movie is apparently in one respect about the green movie's deceit and about humans.


michael moore still doesn't like capitalism... he is what he is.


the real question here is this.. are we over-populated as the film suggests?

It depends who's answering the question and the intended audience.

Obviously the Democratic Socialist/Green Movement does not want certain people around. The Red Chinese still have a one child policy, correct?

The Huxley answer is that we have too many people in some places and not enough in others. Too many of the "wrong" people and not enough of the "right" people. They'll be the judge (and executioner).

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China One Child policy ended in 2015. They had no choice - it started in 1980 and it was either limit population - or starvation and revolt against the Commie masters.

Once the capitalist economic mode settled in and Food became available - the rural areas began to depopulate to the big city factories and the One child policy ended.

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these libs who are for ZPG don't want to admit that capitalism is the answer. it regulates what we do.

one only has to look at what happened to europe which has capitlism as the main economic drier. they have a declining population.

how did that come about? high taxes, highly educated work force and most live in cities.

Iran is going thru the samething, the process there is a little different from europe.

a highly educated work force is less likely to have lots of children.

its generally the poor and the uneducated are likely to have lots of children.

an interesting contradiction in term of human behavior & development.

china policy, they may have lifted the one child policy, but they do have restrictions on certain aspects of that policy in place.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Michael Moore is a dipshit

About this or in general? This he got right and the Left knows it which is why he must be silenced.


How about this for a headline.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ternet/610549/


Internet Speech Will Never Go Back to Normal

In the debate over freedom versus control of the global network, China was largely correct, and the U.S. was wrong.


It's a long article so I'm not going to copy the whole thing. If that headline didn't peak your interest, nothing will. But here is a sample.

In the great debate of the past two decades about freedom versus control of the network, China was largely right and the United States was largely wrong. Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values.

So YouTube, Facebook and Twitter are going to decide what society's "norms and values" should be? If that doesn't send a chill up your leg Chris Matthews, nothing will.


To "some degree", I do agree. I think it would be safe to say that Al Qaeda, should not have the "right" to encourage everyday Americans to kill their neighbors if they can't quote a simple passage from the Koran but that's just me.


What is going on now, is saying that questioning whether we needed to close most businesses in American was really necessary should be banned. That is now considered "misinformation". That use to be called critical thinking. Taking the facts which are now clear, that the vast majority of Americans contracting COVID-19, will not die from it and if you produce a video after looking at the facts and you determine a percentage of contracting to death, that is not the same as say the W.H.O. or CDC, you will be banned from providing a different opinion even if given by medical doctors and epidemiologist just to ease the mind of sportsfisherman. This is the very foundation of our free speech Amendment to the Constitution but then again, these are private platforms so they can ban anything they want by law. The only thing we can do, is make them pay a price for this but if there are more people that actually believe China has it right and the America we use to know has it wrong, well then, don't be surprised if you find yourself living in Western China.

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The government of these Estados Dividido needs to acknowledge that the people of these Divided States deserve greater speech freedom than the poor bastards stuck in China under the control of communist control freaks.

[HedonistForever]

That's the conundrum. While I think I know what the problem is, overpopulation, I don't have a good answer as to how to solve it. I am definitely not in favor of any kind of government enforcement like a one child policy but I am definitely in favor of government "guidance" pointing out the idea that you should never produce more children than you can feed, cloth and educate. Of course this will lead the bleeding heart Liberals to wail about discriminating against the poor but in fact, I haven't called for discrimination but responsibility to the planet if you will.


Encouragement over enforcement.


But then we are right back into the class envy debate, but in a free society like America where limits to your ability to provide for the child you produce are far less than most place on earth, it seems to me that education on what over population will eventually do to us is no less valid than teaching that burning fossil fuels will eventually kill us all which is all the Left wants to do.

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Originally Posted by HedonistForever

That's the conundrum. While I think I know what the problem is, overpopulation, I don't have a good answer as to how to solve it. I am definitely not in favor of any kind of government enforcement like a one child policy but I am definitely in favor of government "guidance" pointing out the idea that you should never produce more children than you can feed, cloth and educate. Of course this will lead the bleeding heart Liberals to wail about discriminating against the poor but in fact, I haven't called for discrimination but responsibility to the planet if you will.


Encouragement over enforcement.


But then we are right back into the class envy debate, but in a free society like America where limits to your ability to provide for the child you produce are far less than most place on earth, it seems to me that education on what over population will eventually do to us is no less valid than teaching that burning fossil fuels will eventually kill us all which is all the Left wants to do.

I would say the problem is an overpopulation of liberals.

We need more hard working conservatives in this world.