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03-24-2020, 07:26 AM
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Really? And you think CNN or MSNBC is going to list all the stuff that has nothing to do with getting money to workers and businesses? You'll have to go to FOX news to get a list of all the misc. crap in the bill "IF" what Fox is reporting is true but it sounds exactly like what Democrats would do. The list is stunning "IF" one believes what Fox is reporting. New auto emission standards as part of the Green new deal which according to FOX's reporting has many items associated with the Green New Deal.
Would it shock you to learn that any business getting any money will have to provide a list of the racial identity of their work force?
I've been trying to find the list that FOX news is reporting but I can't find it in a stand alone form.
This is what Tucker and Hannity are reporting tonight.
Like I say, I can't independently prove any of this stuff. I've found the 1400 page report on line but I'm not about to try and read it.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/61442048...#sp=show-clips
If you watched the clip from Tucker and "IF" any of what he said is in the bill ( I'm not saying it is because I haven't read the bill ) what would you think?
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You listen to Hannity and Tucker Carlson? How about Rush Limbaugh? That says it all. Whenever I happen to turn onto FOX News and they are on, I get a good laugh. Same goes for people like Don Lemon on CNN. Their statements are so one-sided it is ridiculous. They give "fake news" new meaning.
With that said, I do think some of the sticking points being made by Democrats are over the top. Their wanting to include safeguards against corporations using bailout money incorrectly is great. Something Trump supports. But other than that, I think Democrats should give up the majority of their demands and get on with business.
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03-24-2020, 08:19 AM
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So McConnell's AID package defeated among party lines.
Nancy Pelosi, on que, says "We'll come up with something better. Our package will include abortion funding, forgiving college debt, other goodies that we can't get through elections..."
Meanwhile, people can't make rent, car payments and are looking for work.
Despicable.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...e/#more-187143
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F that despicable BITCH
F DA ZOMBIE BITCH
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03-24-2020, 10:45 AM
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You listen to Hannity and Tucker Carlson? How about Rush Limbaugh? That says it all. Whenever I happen to turn onto FOX News and they are on, I get a good laugh. Same goes for people like Don Lemon on CNN. Their statements are so one-sided it is ridiculous. They give "fake news" new meaning.
With that said, I do think some of the sticking points being made by Democrats are over the top. Their wanting to include safeguards against corporations using bailout money incorrectly is great. Something Trump supports. But other than that, I think Democrats should give up the majority of their demands and get on with business.
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Even when you're crawfishing you act like you aren't crawfishing.
Did you see Tom Cotton's posts where he lists the outrageous points against Slippin' Nancy's bill?
Tucker last night hammered the Republicans on part of their bill that allowed foreigners in to take American jobs during this made up turned real crisis.
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03-24-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
You listen to Hannity and Tucker Carlson? How about Rush Limbaugh? That says it all. Whenever I happen to turn onto FOX News and they are on, I get a good laugh. Same goes for people like Don Lemon on CNN. Their statements are so one-sided it is ridiculous. They give "fake news" new meaning.
With that said, I do think some of the sticking points being made by Democrats are over the top. Their wanting to include safeguards against corporations using bailout money incorrectly is great. Something Trump supports. But other than that, I think Democrats should give up the majority of their demands and get on with business.
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Priceless! After suggesting you can't believe anything on Fox News, you admit that the very points Tucker, Hannity and others told you, are "over the top".
"Over the top" means those items having nothing what so ever to do with battling COVID-19 but everything to do with fulfilling the Democrats radical agenda.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/23/nancy-pelosi-has-packed-coronavirus-stimulus-liberal-wish-list-column/2903577001/
The latest example is the newly-introduced House version of the “Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act,” intended to afford stimulus and stability in the face of the economic crisis fomented by COVID-19. The bill may provide some form of succor to the economy, but in the words of Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC), the crisis is also “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.” In other words, coronavirus gives good cover to impose progressive requirements on stricken businesses and a society eager to see government simply act. And fast.
Right from the horses ( asses ) mouth!
You never let a serious crisis go to waste, as Rahm’s Rule says.
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03-24-2020, 12:45 PM
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Er excuse me but it’s a PROPOSAL.!!!! There’s 2 sides to this and there will be a COMPROMISE. On both sides..just like everything else. Nobody will get everything they want...ie we shouldn’t be bailing out the airlines, because of their greed. Neither paying the CEOs fat salaries or stock buyback schemes.
BTW I doubt student debt Provisions will be in the bill...not practical
Just because CNBC reports it doesn’t mean to say it’s in the Bill. And will be passed.
Unlike the Republicans who wanted to hide some of the stuff they wanted, Nancy and co said NO....we want full disclosure
Trump wanted to be the one to oversee the distribution of the money..
Well HELL, if anyone will steal the money..it’s him.
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03-24-2020, 12:46 PM
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I'm going to try and read as much of this as I can but I'll have to do it in sections a few at a time.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/23/82015...-response-bill
Pg16- $300,000,000 for "Violence Against Women Protection and Prevention" A noble cause but what does it have to do with getting workers paid due to COVID-19?
You'll be happy to know that $25,000,000 of that will be used for grants for victims of "dating violence".
$100,000,000 is for "sexual assault victims nothing about being limited to victims with COVID-19
$25,000,000 is for victims of "Rural Domestic violence"
$25,000,000 is for legal assistance.
$25,000,000 is for grants to support families in the justice system.
$100,000,000 is for juvenile justice programs.
Pg 64- $453,000,000 for operations of "Indian programs"
$20,000,000 of that for "Tribally controlled colleges and universities"
Pg 75- $7,500,000 for salaries and expenses at the Smithsonian Institute.
More to follow. I need a couple of aspirin. Get the picture? And I haven't even gotten to the really stupid Green New Deal shit yet.
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03-24-2020, 12:54 PM
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Even when you're crawfishing you act like you aren't crawfishing.
Did you see Tom Cotton's posts where he lists the outrageous points against Slippin' Nancy's bill?
Tucker last night hammered the Republicans on part of their bill that allowed foreigners in to take American jobs during this made up turned real crisis.
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Last time I looked it’s neither Nancy’s bill or Moscow Mitch's Bill..
but you Trump sheep are not too good on the details.
well we can disregard Tom Cotton...with his Reich wing conspiracy theories on how the virus originated....calling the Chinese a bunch of liars.. maybe it’s him that calls it “kung-flu”,
I’m sure that will help the USA get a trade deal together with Beijing.
Nah...let’s move on..somebody ought to rein him in..
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03-24-2020, 01:01 PM
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Here’s the kicker, legalized election fraud.
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03-24-2020, 03:25 PM
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03-24-2020, 05:58 PM
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Fascist DPST's are trying to turn America into the socialist State of kalifonria.
As Bloomie said - "A model for the Nation".
How blind and stupid can a man be ?
With the exception - "an erect penis will take a man places a loaded gun will not?!
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03-24-2020, 06:59 PM
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You listen to Hannity and Tucker Carlson? How about Rush Limbaugh? That says it all. Whenever I happen to turn onto FOX News and they are on, I get a good laugh.
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It always amuses me, the Pavlovian response from people like SR when they hear the words FOX news..
Pavlovian theory is a learning procedure that involves pairing a stimulus with a conditioned response. In the famous experiments that Ivan Pavlov conducted with his dogs, Pavlov found that objects or events could trigger a conditioned response. ... The result of the experiment was a new conditioned response in the dogs.
What "says it all" is your "conditioned response".
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03-24-2020, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Priceless! After suggesting you can't believe anything on Fox News, you admit that the very points Tucker, Hannity and others told you, are "over the top".
"Over the top" means those items having nothing what so ever to do with battling COVID-19 but everything to do with fulfilling the Democrats radical agenda.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/23/nancy-pelosi-has-packed-coronavirus-stimulus-liberal-wish-list-column/2903577001/
The latest example is the newly-introduced House version of the “Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act,” intended to afford stimulus and stability in the face of the economic crisis fomented by COVID-19. The bill may provide some form of succor to the economy, but in the words of Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC), the crisis is also “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.” In other words, coronavirus gives good cover to impose progressive requirements on stricken businesses and a society eager to see government simply act. And fast.
Right from the horses ( asses ) mouth!
You never let a serious crisis go to waste, as Rahm’s Rule says.
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My comments on the various commentators were not specific to their comments on the coronavirus. They all have their agendas, including commentators on the left such as Lemon. They don't report the news, they twist and turn it to meet their own agendas. I don't listen to them on a regular basis at all. I may happen to turn on CNN or FOX when they happen to be on and I get a good laugh. I don't even go near MSNBC because they are even worse than the commentators on CNN and FOX.
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03-24-2020, 08:53 PM
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That is amazing. Democrats stuffing a bunch of completely irrelevant horseshit into a disaster relief bill. They’re going to get slaughtered in November.
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03-25-2020, 07:33 AM
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^^^^^ This is true ..... between those that voted to impeach him and those that are bitching about how Trump handled the coronavirus situation, get ready for it, it's going to be a Republican landlide as voters once again demonstrate their dissatisfaction with the Demoturd party and their actions over the last 4 years get "slaughtered" .....
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03-25-2020, 09:40 AM
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the "trump will win in a landslide because of dimocrats serving special interests in times of crisis" thought is dependent on there being a lot of honest and country loving and right thinking americans
I just have my doubts as to that number
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